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Re: Rank your top 10 WW

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 17:51
by KBB
punchoutsb wrote:I'm not calling you out or anything, but if your list is based on body of work (who has beaten better comp) then why are Bradley and JMM in front of Pac? Or do you use different criteria for different fighters?
Did I even put Pac in my list?? (Sacrcasm)

Liars shouldn't even have a place in my list, Bradley and JMM have wins over Pac and they have been fighting better competition barring Manny's lost to Floyd which counts against him.

Re: Rank your top 10 WW

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 17:53
by punchoutsb
KBB wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:I'm not calling you out or anything, but if your list is based on body of work (who has beaten better comp) then why are Bradley and JMM in front of Pac? Or do you use different criteria for different fighters?
Did I even put Pac in my list?? (Sacrcasm)

Liars shouldn't even have a place in my list, Bradley and JMM have wins over Pac and they have been fighting better competition barring Manny's lost to Floyd which counts against him.
Pac also has wins over them, and better wins overall. So now you're saying you don't use who has beaten better comp?

Re: Rank your top 10 WW

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 18:00
by Impractical Poster
KBB wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:I'm not calling you out or anything, but if your list is based on body of work (who has beaten better comp) then why are Bradley and JMM in front of Pac? Or do you use different criteria for different fighters?
Did I even put Pac in my list?? (Sacrcasm)

Liars shouldn't even have a place in my list, Bradley and JMM have wins over Pac and they have been fighting better competition barring Manny's lost to Floyd which counts against him.
Idiot

Re: Rank your top 10 WW

Posted: 09 Aug 2015, 18:22
by KBB
Impractical Poster wrote:Idiot
I guess you realized that your father was here so you called him by name, huh? :doh:

Re: Rank your top 10 WW

Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 09:57
by cocka09
Ricky_ wrote:Pac
Floyd

Bradley
Brook
Porter
Garcia
Maidana
Khan
Thurman
Sadam Ali
Algieri
Spence


Put my top 12 because i wanted to inc Ali and Spence. It's really difficult to predict the boxing landscape even a year or 2 down the line but i can see Ali and Spence being among the WW champions. Brooks time is limited imo, he looks big at the weight and will eventually move up. Brook and Bradley will almost certainly fight, either at 147 or 154.
Still got Pac ahead of Floyd? Deluded.

Re: Rank your top 10 WW

Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 10:00
by Tanzio
KBB wrote:
Tanzio wrote:Two mistakes, turB, compounded by your lame attempt to defend your position that Porter is better p4p than a dude he lost to decisively.

that's your own opinion, this is my list and if I wanted to i could put whoever i want on it. i put Porter ahead of Brook because Shawn has better quality wins over him despite the loss to him, not that I have to justify anything to you.
True, you don't have to justify your opinion to me or anyone else. However, you chose to do so and your only justifications for your opinion were factually false. Your response to that is to ignore the fact that you had no idea what you were talking about and to rationalize your opinion by taking the facts you have just been made aware of for the opposite purpose that you originally intended.

You think Porter should be rated above Brook. Fair enough, but do us all a favor and don't bother trying to rationalize your opinions if you don't want to be called out on those rationalizations.

My opinion is that Brook is just ahead of Porter based on his head to head victory over him relatively recently. I disagree with some here on it being "very close." It was close but very clear, IMO.

I do not think a victory over Paulie overcomes the head to head results.

Re: Rank your top 10 WW

Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 10:36
by Ricky_
cocka09 wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:Pac
Floyd

Bradley
Brook
Porter
Garcia
Maidana
Khan
Thurman
Sadam Ali
Algieri
Spence


Put my top 12 because i wanted to inc Ali and Spence. It's really difficult to predict the boxing landscape even a year or 2 down the line but i can see Ali and Spence being among the WW champions. Brooks time is limited imo, he looks big at the weight and will eventually move up. Brook and Bradley will almost certainly fight, either at 147 or 154.
Still got Pac ahead of Floyd? Deluded.


The deluded are the masses of sheep who think could find 7 rounds for Floyd within 36 minutes of running and clinching, with literally zero offence. This ain't the am's, if it was, maybe i'd give Floyd #1.

Re: Rank your top 10 WW

Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 10:56
by Tanzio
Ricky_ wrote:
cocka09 wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:Pac
Floyd

Bradley
Brook
Porter
Garcia
Maidana
Khan
Thurman
Sadam Ali
Algieri
Spence


Put my top 12 because i wanted to inc Ali and Spence. It's really difficult to predict the boxing landscape even a year or 2 down the line but i can see Ali and Spence being among the WW champions. Brooks time is limited imo, he looks big at the weight and will eventually move up. Brook and Bradley will almost certainly fight, either at 147 or 154.
Still got Pac ahead of Floyd? Deluded.


The deluded are the masses of sheep who think could find 7 rounds for Floyd within 36 minutes of running and clinching, with literally zero offence. This ain't the am's, if it was, maybe i'd give Floyd #1.
What difference does it make? It was a choreographed dancing exhibition down to Pac's ludicrous rationalization for his poor performance. Absolute, 100% farce.

Re: Rank your top 10 WW

Posted: 10 Aug 2015, 11:06
by Ricky_
Tanzio wrote: What difference does it make? It was a choreographed dancing exhibition down to Pac's ludicrous rationalization for his poor performance. Absolute, 100% farce.

Why is the onus always on Mayweather's opponents to chase him down? Mayweather seems to win every second of every round by default where nothing happens. Yet in bouts like Maidana 1 where a fighter does go all out and pummell him on the ropes, Dave Moretti gives it to Floyd anyway.


It's hard to believe so many boxing fans believe this is the best their sport has to offer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sLE4yGjqZY

Re: Rank your top 10 WW

Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 00:39
by Tanzio
Ricky_ wrote:
Tanzio wrote: What difference does it make? It was a choreographed dancing exhibition down to Pac's ludicrous rationalization for his poor performance. Absolute, 100% farce.

Why is the onus always on Mayweather's opponents to chase him down? Mayweather seems to win every second of every round by default where nothing happens. Yet in bouts like Maidana 1 where a fighter does go all out and pummell him on the ropes, Dave Moretti gives it to Floyd anyway.


It's hard to believe so many boxing fans believe this is the best their sport has to offer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sLE4yGjqZY
The farce was mutually perpetrated.

Re: Rank your top 10 WW

Posted: 12 Aug 2015, 00:54
by CrazyHorse
palooka wrote:Brook is too high, his title winning bout was very close and his two challengers since have been hand picked no hopers. Brook is very strong and a big welter but there's no way that he is number 3 welter, he's had one real win (very close) at world level.
My opinion Brook beats everyone not named Mayweather or Pacquiao in the WW division. Brook is the real deal. So i'm going to rank him ahead of said fighters