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Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 06:03
by keirw
Not sure about the Gavin vs Eggington fight personally, seems an odd piece of matchmaking from Matchroom here.
I can definitely understand Sam taking the fight as victory would propell him up the rankings, yet defeat at his age is something he can come back from.
But Frankie needs to move down in weight and fighting a fit, strong, hungry young man at a weight that you are not comfortable with just seems pointless at this stage of his career.
I predict Frankie by decision in a tough fight.

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 06:46
by freddydoesdallas
ste1983 wrote:Gavin just tweeted that the plan is still to go down to light welter but he got a really good offer belts and moneywise yesterday. It all seems a bit rushed to me day before the presser perhaps because they were struggling for decent opponents to make the show so Hearns thrown £ at it. But hey both lads have got mouths to feed fair play to them its their decision.

Do think its a bit lose lose for Gavin though, if he wins he's going down to light welter anyway so whats the point. Loses and thats him effectively finished.

50/50 fight in my book I'd slightly edge towards Gavin being too slick and skillful but can he keep Eggington off for 12 rounds? Guess we'll see. Two lads I've supported over the years gonna be weird watching them fight not cheering on either, just hope they both come out of it as best as possible.
I saw that earlier and thought the same. If he wins, he's going to come under pressure to defend his belts and might get the confidence to carry on at the weight. Hopefully, he will drop the belts and move down with a good ranking.

Hard to see how he comes back from a defeat here. Matchroom won't fancy chucking money at him

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 07:12
by Marlo Stanfield
Hope Eggington stops him. Can't stand Frankie or the way he fights. Awful to watch

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 07:12
by Marlo Stanfield
plus he's in the wrong division

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 07:24
by ste1983
Eggington v Gavin
Yafai v J Cunningham
Macklin v Welborn (at light middle)
C Cunningham v Lennox Clarke
+ G Yafai, Cori Gibbs, Dan Breeze and Zach Parker

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 07:31
by freddydoesdallas
ste1983 wrote:Eggington v Gavin
Yafai v J Cunningham
Macklin v Welborn (at light middle)
C Cunningham v Lennox Clarke
+ G Yafai, Cori Gibbs, Dan Breeze and Zach Parker
fornicating hell, that's a bit of a mismatch! I know Macklin is not the fighter he once was but he has operated about 10 levels higher Welborn ever has!

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 07:32
by ste1983
freddydoesdallas wrote:
ste1983 wrote:Eggington v Gavin
Yafai v J Cunningham
Macklin v Welborn (at light middle)
C Cunningham v Lennox Clarke
+ G Yafai, Cori Gibbs, Dan Breeze and Zach Parker
effing hell, that's a bit of a mismatch! I know Macklin is not the fighter he once was but he has operated about 10 levels higher Welborn ever has!
I'm wondering if it will be made for Welborns Midlands Area Title.....bit of a come down for Macklin.

Fairplay to Jason for taking it though hes never turned down big tests.

I quite like the look of the card but its got plenty of interest for me (being local). If I was judging this card as someone from anywhere else in the UK I'd think its ok but nothing special.

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 09:58
by TerribleTerry
ste1983 wrote:Eggington v Gavin
Yafai v J Cunningham
Macklin v Welborn (at light middle)
C Cunningham v Lennox Clarke
+ G Yafai, Cori Gibbs, Dan Breeze and Zach Parker
Surpised to see Matthew boiling himself down to light middle at this late stage in his career..

Still, if he has signed to fight at 11st he must be confident that he can do the cut ok.

He is a good few levels above Welborn but it will make for a fan friendly fight!

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 10:00
by Counter-puncher
ste1983 wrote: Macklin v Welborn (at light middle)
you're feckin joking. god......

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 10:10
by palooka
expe wrote:
jameswilson wrote:Hope this fight convinces Gavin to move down. If it means he has to lose it to realise it then so be it.
He said he was going to move down after he lost to Brook, now he's taking another fight at welterweight and against a massive one too. He has enough ability to win the fight but I think Eggington might be too big for him.
Sam looks like he enjoys being in there and Frankie doesn't; in all honesty it seems like Frankie thought professional life would be pretty easy and it hasn't been. I think Eggington will break him down, if he misses he just throws another and doesn't get disheartened.

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 10:12
by palooka
jameswilson wrote:
Haddy1 wrote:I hoping more for yafai butler
You ever heard the parable of the man who lived in hope but died in despair?
I haven't James, will you tell the story? I like parables.

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 10:20
by Counter-puncher
Terry Dooley wrote:
Counter-puncher wrote:
ste1983 wrote: Macklin v Welborn (at light middle)
you're feckin joking. god......
I spoke to him about this recently. He said he's lost some muscle mass so thinks he can make it more comfortably now. Jamie Moore has said he supports the decision. Interviews with both will be on 'Scene over the next day or two.
well I await further proof but until proven otherwise, it strikes me as the stupidest fvcking thing I have heard of in, ummmm, years.
ah well, gives him something to blame if it all goes wrong. Moor supporting the decision strikes me as even stranger, given how weightmaking troubled him in the last 18 months or so of his career; and he wasn't trying to get down to a weight he hadn't seen in, ummm what 8? 9 years? madness.

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 11:20
by Sklar
Macklin's middleweight physique is aesthetically near perfect for what I think a boxer should look like. I can see where the half a stone can be lost from but I'm with C-P that it's a bit of a risk.

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Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 11:29
by Counter-puncher
still, young fresh lad like Macklin, and given how sprightly he's looked in his last few fights, he'll recover without any problems I'm sure.

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 12:47
by Boxerbeetle
Sklar wrote:Macklin's middleweight physique is aesthetically near perfect for what I think a boxer should look like. I can see where the half a stone can be lost from but I'm with C-P that it's a bit of a risk.

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I dunno, Macklin seemed a bit stuck between weights to me - I always thought he looked a bit too fleshy at middleweight.

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 18 Aug 2015, 13:34
by palooka
Counter-puncher wrote:still, young fresh lad like Macklin, and given how sprightly he's looked in his last few fights, he'll recover without any problems I'm sure.
:OhYes: you dry bastard.

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 03:10
by ste1983
I'd imagine the Macklin/Welborn fight maybe called a light middle contest but will end up being made a lot closer to middleweight.

Welborn was due to drop down himself to welter to face Eggington up until Monday (Sam confirms this in an interview) when all of a sudden the Eggington/Gavin fight came about. So they've obviously just switched Welborn around a bit, fairplay to him willing to take either fight.

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 05:49
by freddydoesdallas
Only just noticed that this is at the barclaycard arena which is the NIA (i think) and holds around 12k. Bit optimistic for the fighters involved don't you think?

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 05:53
by ste1983
freddydoesdallas wrote:Only just noticed that this is at the barclaycard arena which is the NIA (i think) and holds around 12k. Bit optimistic for the fighters involved don't you think?
The last one was too.

Think that was set up for max about 7-8k (upper parts were curtained off etc) and there was approx 4k there (at a guess).

Think this one will do a lot more tickets, plenty of interest locally. Octobers a busy month for the Midlands allegedly show at the Wolverhampton Civic (Tommy Langford headlining) two weeks before this too.

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 06:32
by johnswan1
Macklin has become a bit of a joke. I will be backing his opponent to win by KO.

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 07:37
by soulboy
No way , saw welborn couple mths ago , didnt impress me at all , dont forget macklins fought at world level against Golovkin amongst others , welborn wont be fit to lace his gloves

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 07:53
by palooka
If Macklin gets dragged past 4 rounds he's done, he was a really solid and exciting fighter but it looks like he's at the end of a fine career - he's had a few late nights and some very good fighters get done in by people a level or 2 beneath them when their time's up.

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 09:27
by jonp
ste1983 wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:Only just noticed that this is at the barclaycard arena which is the NIA (i think) and holds around 12k. Bit optimistic for the fighters involved don't you think?
The last one was too.

Think that was set up for max about 7-8k (upper parts were curtained off etc) and there was approx 4k there (at a guess).

Think this one will do a lot more tickets, plenty of interest locally. Octobers a busy month for the Midlands allegedly show at the Wolverhampton Civic (Tommy Langford headlining) two weeks before this too.
I think there were more than 4k the four lads i work with did over a thousand between them on there own

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 09:38
by ste1983
jonp wrote:
ste1983 wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:Only just noticed that this is at the barclaycard arena which is the NIA (i think) and holds around 12k. Bit optimistic for the fighters involved don't you think?
The last one was too.

Think that was set up for max about 7-8k (upper parts were curtained off etc) and there was approx 4k there (at a guess).

Think this one will do a lot more tickets, plenty of interest locally. Octobers a busy month for the Midlands allegedly show at the Wolverhampton Civic (Tommy Langford headlining) two weeks before this too.
I think there were more than 4k the four lads i work with did over a thousand between them on there own
Ah fair enough Jon I'm shit at guessing these sort of things.

Sure this one will do plenty more too :TU:

Re: Birmingham Oct 17th

Posted: 19 Aug 2015, 09:45
by beano
Step to far for Sam Egg at this point in his career a loss against Gavin on his card won't hurt him I can only see it going one way and that's a land slide points victory for Gavin the bookies seem to think the same by having Gavin the 4/7 on fav