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Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 03:28
by orbtastic
Grilling Machine wrote:We're talking about Foreman-Cooney?
Tel wasn't. Read back.

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 04:18
by jamesmcdonnell
handsofstone wrote:The right uppercut Douglas caught Tyson with just before flooring him was a beauty
Tyson was definitely one of the best proponents of the uppercut, he had that left hook to the body followed by the uppercut to the head which was deadly.

What was unusual, was that he was almost always shorter than his opponent, so he had to drive the uppercut right through past his own shoulder often to land on the target - that's not something I've seen many fighters do, and shows how powerful he was physically. Though there were many flaws in Tyson's game, his explosiveness really was something to behold in his brief prime.

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 04:22
by Counter-puncher
crusader wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Makes me nostalgic for the fabulous uppercuts Froch used to throw - the ridiculous corkscrew ones that never got within half a mile of his opponent.
How about little Eubank's uppercuts vs Saunders---I'm not sure if I've seen someone consistently miss by a larger distance!
seen any Froch fights? :wink:

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 04:32
by Bard of Boxrec
Oy oy oy oy oy

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 09:03
by funso banjo baby
it's great to see heavies with one punch ko power.

they are a dying breed in this muscle-bound age of tatooed tanks

Charr has suffered two nasty big ko's of late...not sure if its worth doing any more.

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 09:17
by handsofstone
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
handsofstone wrote:The right uppercut Douglas caught Tyson with just before flooring him was a beauty
Tyson was definitely one of the best proponents of the uppercut, he had that left hook to the body followed by the uppercut to the head which was deadly.

What was unusual, was that he was almost always shorter than his opponent, so he had to drive the uppercut right through past his own shoulder often to land on the target - that's not something I've seen many fighters do, and shows how powerful he was physically. Though there were many flaws in Tyson's game, his explosiveness really was something to behold in his brief prime.
Yeah thats right,maybe the fact that Tyson's uppercut had to travel at a longer distance to reach the target made sure he got more monentum on to the shot

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 09:32
by jamesmcdonnell
handsofstone wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
handsofstone wrote:The right uppercut Douglas caught Tyson with just before flooring him was a beauty
Tyson was definitely one of the best proponents of the uppercut, he had that left hook to the body followed by the uppercut to the head which was deadly.

What was unusual, was that he was almost always shorter than his opponent, so he had to drive the uppercut right through past his own shoulder often to land on the target - that's not something I've seen many fighters do, and shows how powerful he was physically. Though there were many flaws in Tyson's game, his explosiveness really was something to behold in his brief prime.
Yeah thats right,maybe the fact that Tyson's uppercut had to travel at a longer distance to reach the target made sure he got more monentum on to the shot
Very tricky though, as you have to continue generating power when the elbow is level with the shoulder which is pretty bloody hard. Not only was he a lot shorter than most of his opponents, but he fought out of a crouch too. Never checked but maybe he pushed off with his legs too.

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 13:11
by Old bones Ian
I don't know who the best guy was throwing an uppercut, but Ken Norton certainly got caught from some huge ones , against Cooney, Shavers and Foreman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ9OfD-Gbk0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCG1dfKXxLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGhXIDRYzO8

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 14:07
by SAPFO
I am sure I watched him smash a few people up in a overseas prizefighter format a few years ago on Eurosport. He has heavy hands, is an ex-kickboxer, and is a cruiser.

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 17:19
by Supremo
Terry Dooley wrote:
Supremo wrote:Wasn't particularly good technique in either the upper cut or hook- Jim Watt would have described them as "Arm punches". Just shows you the impact of getting hit clean by a heavyweight.
I thought there was good technique to the uppercut. His feet looked planted and it came right through the middle and landed on the button.
It worked well there but if you were going to be throwing them all the time like that you would get caught. He drops his arm too low and generates the force through swinging his arm, rather than generating it by dipping at the knees and transferring the power from the floor up and rotating his body at the hips in to the punch......in my opinion.

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 26 Aug 2015, 23:25
by Loynesy
Azumah Nelson v Pat Cowdell.

Left hand uppercut. Literally perfect technique and placement.

Take a look.

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 14:10
by Yes We Can
Breidis is a really small heavyweight in modern terms, so this came as a bit of a shock. I'd suggest that Povetkin has well and truly shattered Charr's chin.... unlucky for him as his durabillity would have kept him as a lower level gatekeeper for years to come. I expect to see him in britain soon enough if the trend continues.

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 02 Sep 2015, 08:18
by Old bones Ian
Just seen a report that Charr has been shot after an arguement at a kebab shop, survives and recovering in hospital

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 03 Sep 2015, 10:04
by Crease
:OhYes:

Glad to see Charr getting KO'd, he's a mouthy arrogant prick who isn't the fighter that he thinks he is. His conduct at the end of his fight with Vitali Klitschko was disgraceful and realistically there was no point acting disgusted when he didn't actually do anything leading up to the stoppage he was getting thoroughly outpunched and outboxed at every turn.

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 03 Sep 2015, 11:08
by Benelio
Crease wrote::OhYes:

Glad to see Charr getting KO'd, he's a mouthy arrogant prick who isn't the fighter that he thinks he is. His conduct at the end of his fight with Vitali Klitschko was disgraceful and realistically there was no point acting disgusted when he didn't actually do anything leading up to the stoppage he was getting thoroughly outpunched and outboxed at every turn.
Well I think his conduct was better than Vitali's conduct at the end of some of his, and his brother's fights.

Regardless, I hope Charr fully recovers from the shooting.

Re: Manuel Charr KTFO

Posted: 04 Sep 2015, 11:21
by Crease
Benelio wrote:Well I think his conduct was better than Vitali's conduct at the end of some of his, and his brother's fights.
Care to give examples?