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Re: WBC & VADA to begin testing program starting with Matthysse-Postol
Posted: 24 Aug 2015, 20:58
by punchoutsb
Redback Rasta wrote:punchoutsb wrote:Redback Rasta wrote:
Just about the response I expected

As is yours

I'm glad you've come to expect quality replies from me
Hopefully you won't blindly believe lies and half truths from the media now.
Re: WBC & VADA to begin testing program starting with Matthysse-Postol
Posted: 24 Aug 2015, 20:59
by Evander
sucracristo wrote:Evander wrote:If the purpose of testing for drugs is to make sure no boxer has an advantage over an other then it's absolutely pointless.
If the weigh in is on a Friday and the fight is on a Saturday for one thing the boxers aren't even boxing at the weight they weighed in at.
Secondly almost every weigh in on the unofficial scales I've ever seen has one boxer with a weight advantage over the other with neither boxing at the weight limit.
What's the point.
in a lot of places they have a weigh in the day before and another the day of,
with the prior day weigh in confirming the weight division and the day of weigh in
making sure there isn't a huge rehydrating disparity.
What's the point in doing the first weigh in if they are checking weight again to see if there is a rehydrating issue the next day ?
I think it's fair to say the first weigh in is the one that stands.
Re: WBC & VADA to begin testing program starting with Matthysse-Postol
Posted: 24 Aug 2015, 21:07
by Evander
Boxing Prospect wrote:The ibf have a same day weigh in rule.
That's not true.
Kell Brook weighed in to fight Frankie Gavin for the IBF Welterweight title on Friday 29th May 2015.
The fight took place on Saturday 30th May 2015.
Re: WBC & VADA to begin testing program starting with Matthysse-Postol
Posted: 24 Aug 2015, 22:58
by Boxing Prospect
Evander wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:The ibf have a same day weigh in rule.
That's not true.
Kell Brook weighed in to fight Frankie Gavin for the IBF Welterweight title on Friday 29th May 2015.
The fight took place on Saturday 30th May 2015.
They have a same day weigh in RULE. The fighters take part in the usual day before weigh in then take part in another the following morning, they are allowed to put on so much over night (it was why Kevin Mitchell didn't get an IBF show after winning an eliminator, Gamboa was punished for not taking part prior to his bout with Salido and Amnat had to lose weight on the morning of his fight with Ioka)
The ibf rules...
WEIGH-IN CEREMONIES:
1. The initial weigh-in shall be no less than twenty (20) nor more than thirty (30) hours
before the start of the bout. If either Champion or Challenger fails to make the
prescribed weight at the official weigh-in time, each will have two hours thereafter to
make the prescribed weight.
2. If a Champion shall fail to make the prescribed weight prior to the expiration of the two
additional hours, the title shall be forfeited on the scale. The contest may be staged,
however, as a fight for the vacant title. If the challenger, having made the prescribed
weight, shall win, he will be declared the winner of the vacant title. However, should the
former champion win, the title will remain vacant. If the Champion makes the weight
and the Challenger fails to do so, the fight may be staged with the understanding that the
Champion will retain his title whether he wins or loses the bout. In the event both
contestants fail to make the prescribed weight, the sanction of the bout will be
withdrawn.
3. There shall be a second day weigh-in on the morning of the event. The promoter of the
event shall arrange for the use of the scale at the prearranged time and location for the
second day weigh-in. At this weigh-in, boxers cannot weigh more than ten (10) pounds
over the weight limit. If a boxer weighs more than ten (10) pounds over the weight limit,
he will have two (2) hours thereafter to make the prescribed weight. If after two (2)
hours he still weighs more than ten (10) pounds over the weight limit, the fight cannot
proceed as a championship bout. If the Champion fails to appear for the second day
weigh-in, the title will be vacated. If the Challenger fails to appear for the second day
weigh-in, the fight may be staged with the unde
Re: WBC & VADA to begin testing program starting with Matthysse-Postol
Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 03:02
by Evander
Boxing Prospect wrote:Evander wrote:Boxing Prospect wrote:The ibf have a same day weigh in rule.
That's not true.
Kell Brook weighed in to fight Frankie Gavin for the IBF Welterweight title on Friday 29th May 2015.
The fight took place on Saturday 30th May 2015.
They have a same day weigh in RULE. The fighters take part in the usual day before weigh in then take part in another the following morning, they are allowed to put on so much over night (it was why Kevin Mitchell didn't get an IBF show after winning an eliminator, Gamboa was punished for not taking part prior to his bout with Salido and Amnat had to lose weight on the morning of his fight with Ioka)
The ibf rules...
WEIGH-IN CEREMONIES:
1. The initial weigh-in shall be no less than twenty (20) nor more than thirty (30) hours
before the start of the bout. If either Champion or Challenger fails to make the
prescribed weight at the official weigh-in time, each will have two hours thereafter to
make the prescribed weight.
2. If a Champion shall fail to make the prescribed weight prior to the expiration of the two
additional hours, the title shall be forfeited on the scale. The contest may be staged,
however, as a fight for the vacant title. If the challenger, having made the prescribed
weight, shall win, he will be declared the winner of the vacant title. However, should the
former champion win, the title will remain vacant. If the Champion makes the weight
and the Challenger fails to do so, the fight may be staged with the understanding that the
Champion will retain his title whether he wins or loses the bout. In the event both
contestants fail to make the prescribed weight, the sanction of the bout will be
withdrawn.
3. There shall be a second day weigh-in on the morning of the event. The promoter of the
event shall arrange for the use of the scale at the prearranged time and location for the
second day weigh-in. At this weigh-in, boxers cannot weigh more than ten (10) pounds
over the weight limit. If a boxer weighs more than ten (10) pounds over the weight limit,
he will have two (2) hours thereafter to make the prescribed weight. If after two (2)
hours he still weighs more than ten (10) pounds over the weight limit, the fight cannot
proceed as a championship bout. If the Champion fails to appear for the second day
weigh-in, the title will be vacated. If the Challenger fails to appear for the second day
weigh-in, the fight may be staged with the unde
Thank you
At this weigh-in, boxers cannot weigh more than ten (10) pounds
over the weight limit.
So they won't be boxing at the weight and it's legit.
If a boxer weighs more than ten (10) pounds over the weight limit,
he will have two (2) hours thereafter to make the prescribed weight. If after two (2)
hours he still weighs more than ten (10) pounds over the weight limit, the fight cannot
proceed as a championship bout.
So a boxer can compete with a 10 pound weight advantage.
Re: WBC & VADA to begin testing program starting with Matthysse-Postol
Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 04:22
by Boxing Prospect
Considering both are allowed the 10lb it a very unlikely we'll see anyone with a 10lb advantage on the morning. The actual flaw with the rule is between the second weigh in and the time they enter the ring, in which they can put on as much weight as they want.
Re: WBC & VADA to begin testing program starting with Matthysse-Postol
Posted: 25 Aug 2015, 04:32
by Evander
Whatever you say
