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funso banjo baby wrote:with an average of one fight a year his entire career has been spent in semi-retirement.

He's 24-0! Pretty sure he hasn't been fighting for 24 years.

cocka09 wrote:

funso banjo baby wrote:with an average of one fight a year his entire career has been spent in semi-retirement.

He's 24-0! Pretty sure he hasn't been fighting for 24 years.

Yep Fury has only had one year where he fought one time.And that was thanks to Davis Haye and
his million excuses not to fight.

I think I can name about 10 boxers that are better as Tyson Fury, so this is just temporary talk, he'll wake up after the fight.

asdfjkl wrote:I think I can name about 10 boxers that are better as Tyson Fury, so this is just temporary talk, he'll wake up after the fight.

Name them?

Rexob wrote:

Lackeos wrote:That's idiotic. That would be like if DLH lost to Whitaker in 1997 and quit boxing. Even with a loss to a boxing God, you still have a lot left that you can achieve. If DLH had lost and retired in 1997, he would have missed out on hundreds of millions of dollars and never made the hall of fame.

Oh yeah, I can see the resemblance in that fight to this?

Are you denying the astounding resemblances between DLH and Tyson Fury?

I sometimes get them confused, and call him Tyson De La Hoya, they're practically the same guy, for crying out loud.

Rexob wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:I think I can name about 10 boxers that are better as Tyson Fury, so this is just temporary talk, he'll wake up after the fight.

Name them?

Klitschko
Povetkin
Kubrat Pulev
Ruslan Chagaev
Anthony Joshua
Joseph Parker
Bryant Jennings
Lucas Browne
Alexander Ustinov
Vyacheslav Glazkov

asdfjkl wrote:

Rexob wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:I think I can name about 10 boxers that are better as Tyson Fury, so this is just temporary talk, he'll wake up after the fight.

Name them?

Klitschko
Povetkin
Kubrat Pulev
Ruslan Chagaev
Anthony Joshua
Joseph Parker
Bryant Jennings
Lucas Browne
Alexander Ustinov
Vyacheslav Glazkov

There may be some in that list who are stronger chinned, bigger punchers and more athletic and more technically skilled than Fury, but I don't think any have proven themselves better, bar Wlad. Fury is much more skilful than Browne and Ustinov. I'd make him favourite to beat them all bar Wlad. Parker and Joshua may prove themselves superior in time.

jezzamundo wrote:

Rexob wrote: There may be some in that list who are stronger chinned, bigger punchers and more athletic and more technically skilled than Fury, but I don't think any have proven themselves better, bar Wlad. Fury is much more skilful than Browne and Ustinov. I'd make him favourite to beat them all bar Wlad. Parker and Joshua may prove themselves superior in time.

The best boxer Fury has ever won against is Chisora right?
Chisora is about as good as David Haye, who lost against Carl Thompson?!
Sorry mate, but I really don't think Fury is as good as some people seem to think

asdfjkl wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

Rexob wrote: There may be some in that list who are stronger chinned, bigger punchers and more athletic and more technically skilled than Fury, but I don't think any have proven themselves better, bar Wlad. Fury is much more skilful than Browne and Ustinov. I'd make him favourite to beat them all bar Wlad. Parker and Joshua may prove themselves superior in time.

The best boxer Fury has ever won against is Chisora right?
Chisora is about as good as David Haye, who lost against Carl Thompson?!
Sorry mate, but I really don't think Fury is as good as some people seem to think

When somebody posts something like this it makes me wonder if they know anything about boxing at all.

The best boxer Fury has ever won against is Chisora right?

Right, though some would argue Cunningham is better than Chisora.

Chisora is about as good as David Haye, who lost against Carl Thompson?!

Chisora was never as good as David Haye. Yes, an inexperience David Haye lost to Carl Thompson well before he hit his prime. A prime Chisora beat Robert Helenius and was robbed, then went on to give Vitali Klitschko his toughest fight since Lennox Lewis - still a wide points win to Vitali, but Chisora did far better than the likes of Peter, Arreola, Briggs, Solis and Adamek. Beating Chisora is something that a top heavyweight should do, but beating him as easily as Tyson Fury did is impressive.

Sorry mate, but I really don't think Fury is as good as some people seem to think

Fair enough. Honestly, I didn't think much of Fury a few years ago, but I think he has improved a lot and his domination of Chisora and Hammer impressed me. What concerns me is his chin (he has been knocked down by two non-punchers) and his lack of experience against big, tall heavyweights. I'm picking Wlad to knock him out, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Fury winning rounds and giving Wlad his toughest fight in a long time.

talk is cheap.but it is also a good motivator

"A prime Chisora beat Robert Helenius and was robbed"


A badly injured Helenius.

clopixolacuphase wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

The best boxer Fury has ever won against is Chisora right?
Chisora is about as good as David Haye, who lost against Carl Thompson?!
Sorry mate, but I really don't think Fury is as good as some people seem to think

When somebody posts something like this it makes me wonder if they know anything about boxing at all.

If I didn't, then how did I get those names?
I would have probably ended up with Wilder, or Joshua's opponend of yesterday, or agreed that Fury is the best.
But no, he isn't, he's just a hype with a bit of luck and most people know it. He's not a complete bum, but he's not the rank 3 of the world either, like Boxrec got him at this moment and neither is Wilder rank 4.

jezzamundo wrote:

The best boxer Fury has ever won against is Chisora right?

Right, though some would argue Cunningham is better than Chisora.

Chisora is about as good as David Haye, who lost against Carl Thompson?!

Chisora was never as good as David Haye. Yes, an inexperience David Haye lost to Carl Thompson well before he hit his prime. A prime Chisora beat Robert Helenius and was robbed, then went on to give Vitali Klitschko his toughest fight since Lennox Lewis - still a wide points win to Vitali, but Chisora did far better than the likes of Peter, Arreola, Briggs, Solis and Adamek. Beating Chisora is something that a top heavyweight should do, but beating him as easily as Tyson Fury did is impressive.

Sorry mate, but I really don't think Fury is as good as some people seem to think

Fair enough. Honestly, I didn't think much of Fury a few years ago, but I think he has improved a lot and his domination of Chisora and Hammer impressed me. What concerns me is his chin (he has been knocked down by two non-punchers) and his lack of experience against big, tall heavyweights. I'm picking Wlad to knock him out, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Fury winning rounds and giving Wlad his toughest fight in a long time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHAaNRrbH3U&t=13m22s
Even Tyson Fury himself disagrees with you, I'm still not that impressed about Fury. I do like his talkstuff though. But I'm still quite confident he won't beat Klitschko and he will continue to box after Klitschko.

asdfjkl wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

The best boxer Fury has ever won against is Chisora right?

Right, though some would argue Cunningham is better than Chisora.

Chisora is about as good as David Haye, who lost against Carl Thompson?!

Chisora was never as good as David Haye. Yes, an inexperience David Haye lost to Carl Thompson well before he hit his prime. A prime Chisora beat Robert Helenius and was robbed, then went on to give Vitali Klitschko his toughest fight since Lennox Lewis - still a wide points win to Vitali, but Chisora did far better than the likes of Peter, Arreola, Briggs, Solis and Adamek. Beating Chisora is something that a top heavyweight should do, but beating him as easily as Tyson Fury did is impressive.

Sorry mate, but I really don't think Fury is as good as some people seem to think

Fair enough. Honestly, I didn't think much of Fury a few years ago, but I think he has improved a lot and his domination of Chisora and Hammer impressed me. What concerns me is his chin (he has been knocked down by two non-punchers) and his lack of experience against big, tall heavyweights. I'm picking Wlad to knock him out, but I wouldn't be shocked to see Fury winning rounds and giving Wlad his toughest fight in a long time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHAaNRrbH3U&t=13m22s
Even Tyson Fury himself disagrees with you, I'm still not that impressed about Fury. I do like his talkstuff though. But I'm still quite confident he won't beat Klitschko and he will continue to box after Klitschko.

Nice link. I actually agree somewhat with Fury - Chisora's workrate and pressure had Haye tired and he wouldn't have stood up to the pressure for much longer without taking punishment. That said, Haye did deserve to be ahead on points and ultimately knocked Chisora down twice, leading to the stoppage. We also agree that Wlad will beat Fury and Fury will keep on boxing afterwards, but I do also think that Fury has more than a punchers chance and is the most live underdog against Wlad since David Haye.

x2x wrote:"A prime Chisora beat Robert Helenius and was robbed"


A badly injured Helenius.

True, but it was a robbery nonetheless. A rematch with a healthy Helenius would be good, though considering Robert's power, possibly not good for Chisora.

When Fury loses to Wlad. He'll end up fighting David Haye next for the money. He'll retire after that win or lose. He's always saying he doesn't like boxing and he's only in it for the money. Good luck to the lad I say .

yeah. he's the most active heavyweight around

jezzamundo wrote:

x2x wrote:"A prime Chisora beat Robert Helenius and was robbed"


A badly injured Helenius.

True, but it was a robbery nonetheless. A rematch with a healthy Helenius would be good, though considering Robert's power, possibly not good for Chisora.

I'd like to see that rematch too. Helenius has been trying to come back, and I think he could go right to the top, but I'm afraid he has the boxing mobster organization against him now because he escaped from one of their slave-contracts they tricked him into signing, and so far all he has been able to get is local fights.

asdfjkl wrote:

Rexob wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:I think I can name about 10 boxers that are better as Tyson Fury, so this is just temporary talk, he'll wake up after the fight.

Name them?

Klitschko
Povetkin
Kubrat Pulev
Ruslan Chagaev
Anthony Joshua
Joseph Parker
Bryant Jennings
Lucas Browne
Alexander Ustinov
Vyacheslav Glazkov

Fury beats Browne without breaking sweat and would probably out point Jennings. Jennings has nothing to threaten Fury just like he had nothing to threaten Wlad.

What threatens Fury simple good height a bit of speed and a massive right hand.

Glazkov never seen him fight but he was apparently lucky to beat Cunningham who Fury KTFO.

Glazkov also only just beat Rossy. Rossy who I watched get wiped out by Audley Harrsion with no effort at all.. Audley Harrison.....AUDLEY HARRISON

Naandrew wrote: Fury beats Browne without breaking sweat and would probably out point Jennings. Jennings has nothing to threaten Fury just like he had nothing to threaten Wlad.

What threatens Fury simple good height a bit of speed and a massive right hand.

Glazkov never seen him fight but he was apparently lucky to beat Cunningham who Fury KTFO.

Glazkov also only just beat Rossy. Rossy who I watched get wiped out by Audley Harrsion with no effort at all.. Audley Harrison.....AUDLEY HARRISON

That's just the eastern Europe type of fighting, win the round and make sure you don't get K.O. yourself.
A lot of Klitschko's fights are boring to watch, but he wins them and that's it.
The only fights Klitschko lost were one lose against that guy from South Africa and two fights where he forgot to take breakfast.
The latest one made him decide to use a differend tactic from that point and that was to make sure he got the round on his name and avoid the KO and make sure you don't waste energy after that. So he just doesn't fight his ass off, he just wins the rounds and that's it.
If Klitschko goes for the KO it's only because his opponend is wreckless, doesn't pay attention, seems to be weak at that point or if he's very big behind on points. Same story with Vyacheslav Glazkov. He doesn't fight, he scores points and that's just about it and he's very good at it.

*edit: Tyson Fury does the same btw.

Hope he does.

He's a twat.

I would love to see Fury vs Wilder or Joshua. PPV worthy imo, and I would buy it. Wouldn't even care who wins, but it would be entertaining. Much more than him vs Wlad will be.

I know boxers always say things like I am in the best shape of my life, best camp ever blah blah, they also say they are fitter and have trained the hardest, no stone unturned ect ect ..... does anyone know how hard Tyson does work in the gym .... from his comments he leads me to believe that he is pushing himself to death ... surely he is a slacker at times, we have seen it before, the drinking the eating, not giving a fornicate between fights, never with abs showing ...... if he showed up on fight night with some abs I think even Wlad would pop out a little turtle head