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Re: Kenny Bayless
Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 13:16
by Ricky_
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Ricky_ wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Me either - just saw the ref breaking up fighters who were both holding on the inside.
Sure you didn't. Mayweather was initiating clinches, as he always does, with complete impunity.
Berto was holding every bit as much as far as I can see. There was lots of ugly clinching going on initiated by both men.
As far as I can see, NOBODY these days seems to get warned or points deducted for excessive holding - unless it is so flagrant that they are clinging on like an octopus. The last time I remember anyone getting DQ'd for excessive holding was Henry Akinwande against Lennox Lewis, and he really was like a horny octopus.
It's just not an infringement which seems to get punished these days.
Chris John Ruiz made an entire career out of it.
You can try and say I'm bias if you like, but it's not true - Mayweather bores me to tears, I'll be glad to see the back of him, but I'm not going to cry conspiracy where I see none.
The weekend after Floyd/Pac there was pretty clear damnation in the media and among fans about Floyd's holding and Bayless being inept. The following weekend on a PBC card, Ricky Burns was deducted not once, but twice, for clinching. It cost him the fight.
Khan lost a world title to Peterson on the basis of the ref deducting him for pushing. Sure Khan ain't as subtle as Floyd but when did Floyd ever get a warning for that constant forearm use? I've heard numerous trainers request the ref watch out for it in the locker room pre-fight but nothing is ever done about.
Look at this:
Look at Kenny Bayless
, casually observing Floyd rub his wrist into Berto's face to blindly set up an uppercut.
Re: Kenny Bayless
Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 13:25
by BroughtonRulesRefuge
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 7 of Manny's last 8 fights have been refereed by Baylis.
--- I suggest you get one of your little buddies to review Manny's record here which includes his last 8 fights and get back to you with the results.
Of course there's the possibility than any factual content passing through your noggin may be reduced to silly putty, but the record is clear for those with intact mental faculties:
http://boxrec.com/boxer/6129
Re: Kenny Bayless
Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 13:53
by jamesmcdonnell
I omitted one line 7 of 8 fights IN NEVADA
Re: Kenny Bayless
Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 14:07
by Ricky_
jamesmcdonnell wrote:I omitted one line 7 of 8 fights IN NEVADA
That's still wrong.
Re: Kenny Bayless
Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 14:23
by jamesmcdonnell
Ricky_ wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:I omitted one line 7 of 8 fights IN NEVADA
That's still wrong.
Maybe it's 6 of his last 8 then, my point is, that Bayless gets a huge amount of gigs in Nevada, as does Weeks.
Re: Kenny Bayless
Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 14:33
by Ezzard
He's a clear stooge.
Re: Kenny Bayless
Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 15:46
by the rat
caldo2025 wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:
He has also refereed over 50% of Pacquaio's fights.
The judges are regulated by the Nevada commission, they get LOTS of big fights. There aren't that many referees out there full stop.
Moretti has worked 11 out of Floyd's last 15 fights. You don't find that odd? Moretti is from NJ so it's not a Las Vegas thing. It just smells like several other unfair advantages Floyd gets continuously and he'll never be TBE because of them.
I'm pretty happy about not having to watch any more of Floyd's hugfests.
http://boxrec.com/person/401002?role=judge
Re: Kenny Bayless
Posted: 14 Sep 2015, 23:10
by Badhusker
Ricky_ wrote:Think this guy has ever read a boxing rule book? Maybe he just skips the bit about excessive holding?
Out of Floyd's last
12 fights Bayless has reffed
50% of them, and
100% of his last
3 fights.
And a word for Dave Moretti, sitting in judgement of Floyd's
5th... yes,
fifth, straight fight in a row, (
including the Maidana robbery and subsequent rematch 
).
With Floyd now retiring, do Bayless & Moretti become free agents? Or do you think it's Showtime they are contracted to?
Re: Kenny Bayless
Posted: 15 Sep 2015, 05:17
by Ricky_
Badhusker wrote:Ricky_ wrote:Think this guy has ever read a boxing rule book? Maybe he just skips the bit about excessive holding?
Out of Floyd's last
12 fights Bayless has reffed
50% of them, and
100% of his last
3 fights.
And a word for Dave Moretti, sitting in judgement of Floyd's
5th... yes,
fifth, straight fight in a row, (
including the Maidana robbery and subsequent rematch ).
With Floyd now retiring, do Bayless & Moretti become free agents? Or do you think it's Showtime they are contracted to?
someone needs their vitamins.