Deontay Wilder will not face Alexander Povetkin next

[Kronkpride]

There is no need to defend the WBC Title if he wants another match before Povetkin. There is especially no need to defend the title if it is ordered that Povetkin is next. But, if he is going to fight, the WBC will want a piece of it through the sanctioning fee. So they will likely let him fight another defense just because of the money. Though they could not stop him from fighting another fight even with a mandate...he simply does not have to defend.

If you want to see an example of how it is done, refer back to 1994 James Toney. Just because you are a champion does not mean you have to only fight championship defenses. And if you are a beginning champion who still needs to hone your craft there is absolutely no reason not to take some developmental fights between title bouts. Toney was likely doing it because of weight, and because he is a throw back bad arse that would like to fight every month if he could, especially back in his young days. Wilder is needing these extra fights because he simply lacks experience and needs to keep working on his craft. They coddled him for the safest path to the title...they achieved it. So now when he has the belt he has some making up to do. The guys he has beaten as Champion are more along the lines of those he should have beaten on the way to the title. But so far so good for them, even if it is not so far so good for the fans. But eventually, he will deliver for the fans too. He's going to step up to the big guys, Povetkin is one of them, and he is either going to get his arse busted or bust some arse. Either way lots of fans will be happy when he finally gets there. And while it has been a maddening deal for most HW fans so far, his team really has done about the best you can as far as guiding a guy through the easiest part of the obstacle course. It has been good management. And they are continuing to manage him well even right now putting the pressure on the WBC saying he will take another fight first. They can do it either way, and the WBC will likely cave as they only lose money by preventing it.

But I want to say this much. Another bout and then Povetkin is one thing.....ducking Povetkin and letting the strap go is another. If Wilder refuses to take on his mandatory and vacates...then everybody in boxing should disregard the mf'r no matter what. I will boycott the son of a bitch forever if he runs away from this mando. Even if he gets a fight with Fury or Klitschko by ducking out on the WBC and cherry picking some more, I will never watch that fight or any of his fights again.

[sucracristo]

whatever some guy in a camp says, it might as well be blablabla if the WBC hasn't signed off on it,
and the WBC says povetkin is mandatory. this all sounds like crap to me

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/news/5474-w ... t-povetkin
"World Boxing Council President, Mauricio Sulaiman, states that Deontay Wilder must fight the mandatory challenger, Alexander Povetkin next.
To get to that exulted stage, the Russian fighter must win his next bout, scheduled for November 4th against Mariusz Wach.
“Wilder has to make his mandatory defense against the mandatory challenger, who is Alexander Povetkin," Mauricio Sulaiman commented to ESPN.
If Wilder and Povetkin are not able to reach an agreement, then the WBC would order a purse bid. Either way, the mandatory defense must happen in the first trimester of 2016.
Wilder will have a tough and exacting test, because Povetkin is one of the most solid fighters in the heavyweight division right now"

[davie]

whatever some guy in a camp says, it might as well be blablabla if the WBC hasn't signed off on it,
and the WBC says povetkin is mandatory. this all sounds like crap to me

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/news/5474-w ... t-povetkin
"World Boxing Council President, Mauricio Sulaiman, states that Deontay Wilder must fight the mandatory challenger, Alexander Povetkin next.
To get to that exulted stage, the Russian fighter must win his next bout, scheduled for November 4th against Mariusz Wach.
“Wilder has to make his mandatory defense against the mandatory challenger, who is Alexander Povetkin," Mauricio Sulaiman commented to ESPN.
If Wilder and Povetkin are not able to reach an agreement, then the WBC would order a purse bid. Either way, the mandatory defense must happen in the first trimester of 2016.
Wilder will have a tough and exacting test, because Povetkin is one of the most solid fighters in the heavyweight division right now"

Imagine Wach does a Leipai and beats Povetkin. That'd upset a few people.

Not Wilder though, I'd imagine.

[cold187]

i see wilder and his coach point. povetkin needs to STFU cos the world wanted him to man up and fight wlad but he delayed it a long time
now if povetkin fights wach November 4th, he will prob fight wilder in march/April next year
either way wilder wants a fight in December should be no prob as long as the deal is reached with povetkin for early next year
povetkin werent fight wilde rin december anyway so let wilder have his voluntary

when they do meet, i predict Povetkin but KO 10 count

[Tony1244]

whatever some guy in a camp says, it might as well be blablabla if the WBC hasn't signed off on it,
and the WBC says povetkin is mandatory. this all sounds like crap to me

http://wbcboxing.com/wbceng/news/5474-w ... t-povetkin
"World Boxing Council President, Mauricio Sulaiman, states that Deontay Wilder must fight the mandatory challenger, Alexander Povetkin next.
To get to that exulted stage, the Russian fighter must win his next bout, scheduled for November 4th against Mariusz Wach.
“Wilder has to make his mandatory defense against the mandatory challenger, who is Alexander Povetkin," Mauricio Sulaiman commented to ESPN.
If Wilder and Povetkin are not able to reach an agreement, then the WBC would order a purse bid. Either way, the mandatory defense must happen in the first trimester of 2016.
Wilder will have a tough and exacting test, because Povetkin is one of the most solid fighters in the heavyweight division right now"

First trimester? What is this an abortion? That's from Jan1-April30th if my math is correct. Wilder could still fight before then. I hate to agree with a Sulaiman, but that seems logical.

[Tony1244]

There is no need to defend the WBC Title if he wants another match before Povetkin. There is especially no need to defend the title if it is ordered that Povetkin is next. But, if he is going to fight, the WBC will want a piece of it through the sanctioning fee. So they will likely let him fight another defense just because of the money. Though they could not stop him from fighting another fight even with a mandate...he simply does not have to defend.

If you want to see an example of how it is done, refer back to 1994 James Toney. Just because you are a champion does not mean you have to only fight championship defenses. And if you are a beginning champion who still needs to hone your craft there is absolutely no reason not to take some developmental fights between title bouts. Toney was likely doing it because of weight, and because he is a throw back bad arse that would like to fight every month if he could, especially back in his young days. Wilder is needing these extra fights because he simply lacks experience and needs to keep working on his craft. They coddled him for the safest path to the title...they achieved it. So now when he has the belt he has some making up to do. The guys he has beaten as Champion are more along the lines of those he should have beaten on the way to the title. But so far so good for them, even if it is not so far so good for the fans. But eventually, he will deliver for the fans too. He's going to step up to the big guys, Povetkin is one of them, and he is either going to get his arse busted or bust some arse. Either way lots of fans will be happy when he finally gets there. And while it has been a maddening deal for most HW fans so far, his team really has done about the best you can as far as guiding a guy through the easiest part of the obstacle course. It has been good management. And they are continuing to manage him well even right now putting the pressure on the WBC saying he will take another fight first. They can do it either way, and the WBC will likely cave as they only lose money by preventing it.

But I want to say this much. Another bout and then Povetkin is one thing.....ducking Povetkin and letting the strap go is another. If Wilder refuses to take on his mandatory and vacates...then everybody in boxing should disregard the mf'r no matter what. I will boycott the son of a bitch forever if he runs away from this mando. Even if he gets a fight with Fury or Klitschko by ducking out on the WBC and cherry picking some more, I will never watch that fight or any of his fights again.

You won't watch Wilder but you have no problem watching Welliver. Whatever.

If Wilder "ducks' Povetkin but fights the winner of Wlad-Fury instead, keep us informed how successful your boycott is.

[Nightmare Roy]

You know this is truly pathetic.

WBC needs to MANDATE this fight. As in: This fight happens NOW or Wilder gives up the belt.

Whats the point of an organization like WBC having mandatry challengers if theyre not going to enforce it? If thats the case you may as well get rid of a rankings system, flush the belt dwn the fcukin toilet because its not a real champinship.

This is beynd absurd.

I thought WBC had already mandated Wilder to fight Pvetkin. He's already been given 2 vluntary defenses (against piss poor opposition). How many freebies is this guy going t get?

WBC shuld stick to their word and do their fcukin job which is t mandate this fight.

My guess is somebody has bribed the WBC to grant an extension. Totally corrupt.

Spot on, I don't think I've ever seen a HW champ so wrapped up in cotton wool, it's absolutely laughable how little faith his people have in him.

[sucracristo]

First trimester? What is this an abortion? That's from Jan1-April30th if my math is correct. Wilder could still fight before then. I hate to agree with a Sulaiman, but that seems logical.

whether it's Jan1 or April30th, sulaiman said povetkin is NEXT.

that doesn't mean delay povetkin and fight someone else in the meantime.
povetkin fights early november, so if wilder fights someone else in december
then it is wilder who wouldn't be ready in january and probably february, not
povetkin. wilder could fight a non-title fight but the issue is the same. he would
still be fighting AFTER povetkin's nov 4th bout, meaning WILDER would be the one
delaying the povetkin fight. if the contract doesn't get signed, it goes up to purse bid.

[Freedom2013]

Jennings vs. Wilder in the works?

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/4008 ... tay-wilder

I doubt it though. Jennings is too good, Wilder is unlikely to voluntarily fight him.

But Wilder wants to avoid Povetkin and have a voluntary fight in January, perhaps against Wawrzyk:

http://www.BS.com/wilder-eyes- ... kin--96577

[punchoutsb]

Jennings vs. Wilder in the works?

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/4008 ... tay-wilder

I doubt it though. Jennings is too good, Wilder is unlikely to voluntarily fight him.

But Wilder wants to avoid Povetkin and have a voluntary fight in January, perhaps against Wawrzyk:

http://www.BS.com/wilder-eyes- ... kin--96577

I can't see any scenario where Wilder fights Jennings. None. I hope I'm wrong, I'd love to see that fight!

[flem1]

Jennings vs. Wilder in the works?

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/4008 ... tay-wilder

I doubt it though. Jennings is too good, Wilder is unlikely to voluntarily fight him.

But Wilder wants to avoid Povetkin and have a voluntary fight in January, perhaps against Wawrzyk:

http://www.BS.com/wilder-eyes- ... kin--96577

Wawrzyk is not even mentioned in the link you posted.

[punchoutsb]

Jennings vs. Wilder in the works?

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/4008 ... tay-wilder

I doubt it though. Jennings is too good, Wilder is unlikely to voluntarily fight him.

But Wilder wants to avoid Povetkin and have a voluntary fight in January, perhaps against Wawrzyk:

http://www.BS.com/wilder-eyes- ... kin--96577

Wawrzyk is not even mentioned in the link you posted.

He was rumored to be the opponent before Duhaupas was selected. He's also been recently signed by Haymon, hence why freedom brought him up.

[Boxing Writer]

I have no doubt it won't be Jennings. Too risky. Look, Povetkin might be just slightly riskier, but money will be much bigger. I think it's safe to say that Povetkin is more likely opponent for Wilder than Jennings in January. But I'm 90% sure it will be somebody like Wawrzyk or Kauffman.

[Tony1244]

I don't consider Wilder champion so his "title defenses'' don't bother me. The only HW that's really fighting consistently and against good quality is Povetkin. Wlad is fighting once, maybe twice a year. Chagaev, Jennings, and Pulev, guys like that are part time fighters. At least Wilder is getting in the ring, albeit against grade B opposition.

[asdfjkl]

I don't consider Wilder champion so his "title defenses'' don't bother me. The only HW that's really fighting consistently and against good quality is Povetkin. Wlad is fighting once, maybe twice a year. Chagaev, Jennings, and Pulev, guys like that are part time fighters. At least Wilder is getting in the ring, albeit against grade B opposition.

I can say whatever I want, but these 3 and Anthony Joshua are really the top of the world, next to Klitschko and Povetkin. If Wilder can beat any of those 6 I would really be shocked and he would definetly gain a hell of a lot of my respect.

[crusader]

Chagaev had a very close fight with Fres Oquendo recently and I don't consider him to be in the same class as the others mentioned. At this point I think Wilder would beat him handily.

[Ilya Muromets]

I don't consider Wilder champion so his "title defenses'' don't bother me. The only HW that's really fighting consistently and against good quality is Povetkin. Wlad is fighting once, maybe twice a year. Chagaev, Jennings, and Pulev, guys like that are part time fighters. At least Wilder is getting in the ring, albeit against grade B opposition.

Wlad has been fighting twice a year. In his earlier years he fought extremely frequently, as often as once a week. Povetkin has only been fighting twice a year as well. Chagaev once a year. Jennings only once or twice a year. I do not know what's up with Pulev because soon it will be a year since his last fight.

[dominik]

Fights against a totally over-matched opponent aren't the best for comparison. Povetkin looked like he was going for a stroll and could've probably ended it even more quickly if he wanted to. Wilder could stop Wawrzyk in a round or two and I don't think it would say much about how he'd fare against a much tougher and more durable foe.

wasn't that the time when he worked with Atlas on his head movement? I remember at the time he was not punching much.

[Tony1244]

I don't consider Wilder champion so his "title defenses'' don't bother me. The only HW that's really fighting consistently and against good quality is Povetkin. Wlad is fighting once, maybe twice a year. Chagaev, Jennings, and Pulev, guys like that are part time fighters. At least Wilder is getting in the ring, albeit against grade B opposition.

Wlad has been fighting twice a year. In his earlier years he fought extremely frequently, as often as once a week. Povetkin has only been fighting twice a year as well. Chagaev once a year. Jennings only once or twice a year. I do not know what's up with Pulev because soon it will be a year since his last fight.

True, I looked up and realized that Povetkin has been fighting less than I thought, but he has been fighting top guys. Nevertheless, I don''t see why Wilder-Povetkin can't be made now, with the guy Povetkin is scheduled to fight should take step aside money and fight the winner.

[Freedom2013]

I see more media rumors of Jennings-Wilder today.

Now there's a rumored date, Jan 9.

http://www.BS.com/wilder-vs-je ... 9th--96609

[Bobbyptsd]

I see more media rumors of Jennings-Wilder today.

Now there's a rumored date, Jan 9.

http://www.BS.com/wilder-vs-je ... 9th--96609

That would make sense to me. I have a hard time believing they were going to go from guys like Stiverne and Duhaupas, to Povetkin, that's a big step without anything in between, I reckon. I think someone like Jennings could fill that gap well (assuming he doesn't fit it too well and beat him, of course).

[Crease]

Deontay Wilder says he wants to get back in the ring as soon as possible and is looking for a challenger to fight him in January 2016.

He and his management say the negotiations with team Povetkin could take months before reaching an agreement and they won't wait that long.

^ The 2 above statements speak volumes... Nothing much more to add. I predicted all this a little while back when Sulaiman came out and said that he was ordering the mandatory defense.

He'll likely fight another journeyman not in the Transnational or Ring top 10 and not in the BoxRec top 25.

Frankly, I'd be surprised if the challenger was in the BoxRec top 35.