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Parson Cross wrote:Why is there a problem with a Manager doing the job he is employed to do on behalf of a fighter ?
Why should Frampton give him home advantage ?
Who sells the most tickets ?

If roles were reversed would the Quigg camp back down ?

bigjack wrote:

Parson Cross wrote:Why is there a problem with a Manager doing the job he is employed to do on behalf of a fighter ?
Why should Frampton give him home advantage ?
Who sells the most tickets ?

If roles were reversed would the Quigg camp back down ?

Managers are paid to manage,not put obstacles in the way.

Because Frampton claims to be the better fighter holding the better belt,and it's not like he's fighting in Canada or Vegas is it,he'll have as many if not more fans than Quigg will anyway,if they offer enough money,take the fight,simple as that.

Parson Cross wrote:
If roles were reversed would the Quigg camp back down ?

Parson Cross wrote:Why is there a problem with a Manager doing the job he is employed to do on behalf of a fighter ?
Why should Frampton give him home advantage ?
Who sells the most tickets ?

If roles were reversed would the Quigg camp back down ?

Manchester Hitman wrote:
Who cares who sells the most tickets? .

Emmseegee wrote:I would love it if big fight negotiations were done open and publicly in front of a live audience.

Pacquiao v Mayweather
Brook v Khan
Frampton v Quigg

Boxerbeetle wrote:

Batley18 wrote:Whether the fight is made or not eventually, this is a wonderful example of how managers and TV are just ruining boxing. These two should have fought a couple of years ago, but managers hate the thought of someone losing their 0. Lets get the fight on and watch Frampton make Quigg look bang average.

Agree with the sentiments, although I reckon Quigg will knock Frampton out

Batley18 wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

Batley18 wrote:Whether the fight is made or not eventually, this is a wonderful example of how managers and TV are just ruining boxing. These two should have fought a couple of years ago, but managers hate the thought of someone losing their 0. Lets get the fight on and watch Frampton make Quigg look bang average.

Agree with the sentiments, although I reckon Quigg will knock Frampton out

I think that Frampton would win with an easy UD. That is the beauty of this fight though, split opinions. It has to be made.

Counter-puncher wrote:

Manchester Hitman wrote:
Who cares who sells the most tickets? .

apart from promoters, fighters, and managers?

Manchester Hitman wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

Manchester Hitman wrote:
Who cares who sells the most tickets? .

apart from promoters, fighters, and managers?

I'm not talking about generally I meant for this fight. .

freddydoesdallas wrote:

dr_devious wrote:I hope Quigg kick's Frampton ass. Frampton and his camp are really patronising towards Quigg, unnecessarily so too

How so? From what i can gather, they are mainly just saying that Quigg doesn't have a real title, which we on here all agree and also that he can't sell tickets which he can't, especially in comparison to Frampton.

dr_devious wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:

dr_devious wrote:I hope Quigg kick's Frampton ass. Frampton and his camp are really patronising towards Quigg, unnecessarily so too

How so? From what i can gather, they are mainly just saying that Quigg doesn't have a real title, which we on here all agree and also that he can't sell tickets which he can't, especially in comparison to Frampton.

In the interviews I've seen Frampton is really condescending towards Quigg, as are the Mcguigans. They may have left fighting Scott too late, Scott's career look like its on an upward trajectory compared to Frampton's who looked bad in his last fight

dr_devious wrote:Time will tell, maybe Frampton's last struggle was a one off.

I think Quigg is coming on well, good power, strong chin, decent skills, and under-rated partly because of the "WBA Regular" belt he holds, or whatever they call it.

Parson Cross wrote: Why should Frampton give him home advantage ?
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Manchester Hitman wrote:

expe wrote:

Manchester Hitman wrote:http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/barry-m ... s-options/

Well that's it then isn't it? Unless Bazza suddenly
Makes an embarrassing u-turn he's basically fecked the fight off - cheers Barry


The fight makes Zero sense out of Manchester due to loss of revenues from smaller venues - it's a pathetic excuse to block the fight. Frampton would probably have more fans then Quigg in the fcking arena anyway.

The whole valid title crap they keep spouting is also pisssing me off- that went out of the window when Scott banged Martinez out in 2.

I have to think now they don't fancy the fight.

It doesn't say that anywhere. They're still negotiating for the fight, the venue is one of the things up for discussion, doing it at the O2 would be no different revenue wise to Manchester, Hearn himself has admitted that, it just isn't available when they want it. They'll probably end up backing down anyway for a bigger split of the purse.

Both sides are just playing games to try and get the best deal possible, Hearn talking about splitting the MEN in half is just him trying to get some support for Quigg in the arena, if they didn't Frampton would have most of the support from the crowd, McGuigan talking about a neutral venue and other options, they're just negotiating tactics, I don't see the need to read so much into them.

Quigg isn't world champion, he could knock out King effing Kong with one punch and he wouldn't be unless he beats Rigo, beating Martinez proved that he's a world class fighter, didn't make him a world champion though, it's a fake, plastic title, no better than the WBU, IBO, WBF and all the others knocking about.

I take your point about the belt but the fact is Carl only won it off Martinez who then got banged in 2 by Quigg. Years before that the same Martinez was easily beaten twice by Rendal Monroe... Yes, Frampton has the slightly better CV overall but it's not like he is the divisional kingpin he is just a belt holder who won it off a guy Quigg also beat but in more devastating fashion. The valid title rubbish is not a reason for the fight not to happen. Carl Froch was only WBA regular champion but that didn't stop him having huge fights against Kessler etc

Yes, they seem to be negotiating but they've been doing this on and off for a few years now.
I am usually a massive critic of Hearn and have been pro team Frampton in this saga but I'm now unable to find a fault in the way fast Eddie has been trying to handle this fight.

The McGuigans are coming up with ridiculous demands about neutral venues as if going to Manchester for them is the equivalent of Tyszu coming over to face Hatton at 2am even though he was an elite name and divisional boss.

They're also bringing no money to the table
And if as I now fear they don't take the fight no blame should be attached to Hearn or Quigg

ste1983 wrote:Haven't Quiggs team said it has to happen in Manchester. Isn't that putting obstacles as much/if not more as Barry saying it shouldn't happen in Manchester?