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Grailer wrote:Rumor is that Parker is fighting in Samoa early next year.

David Tua is possible opponent? would definately be a good fight if Tua is in any sort of shape.

Unfortunately David looks about 150kg at the moment - I think the flame has gone out

I'd finish up the regional opposition first.
Solomon Haumono
alex leapai
then Lucas Browne.

sendo wrote:Sorry but wake me up when he fights someone who hasn't been stopped before, or even better has a recent notable win. Beating a 45 year old Kali Meehan is meaningless.

Everyone he's fought has been stopped before and not even at world level. Still big questions to ask about this kid.

Most heavyweights who've never been stopped before are also undefeated, untested, and there's no evidence that they really have any toughness. The heavyweights you're describing are basically Luis Ortiz, Lucas Browne, Gerald Washington, etc.; a bunch of question marks, in other words. In contrast, Johann Duhaupas has been stopped before, but he was stopped on his feet in the 11th round after taking quite a gigantic beating. Tomasz Adamek was stopped only once on his feet in the 10th round against Vitali, but has generally showed a lot of ability to protect himself and draw fights out late.

sendo wrote:Sorry but wake me up when he fights someone who hasn't been stopped before, or even better has a recent notable win. Beating a 45 year old Kali Meehan is meaningless.

Everyone he's fought has been stopped before and not even at world level. Still big questions to ask about this kid.

Skeptical eh?

That's the right attitude!

Parkers name should not even be in the same sentence as Joshua.

Parker has had a very carefully built pro career.

Whenever I see an upcoming prospect, especially heavy, I always go to try to see how he fared as an amateur as that is the only experience most novice pros have had where they've been in competitive fights.

In Parkers case he failed to pick up a medal at the 2010 Commonwealth games, and didn't qualify for the 2012 Olympics - a tournament won by Anthony Joshua. That doesn't read too great.

So until Parker beats a live body as a pro I for one will not be buying into any of the hype.

Parker obviously didn't have the same level of amateur accomplishments, but many very good fighters failed to qualify for the Olympics and Parker was just 18 during the Commonwealth Games and 19 during Olympic qualifying, which are very young ages for a heavyweight. Now Parker is only 23 to Joshua's 26 but his pro opposition is fairly similar to Joshua's (though admittedly not as good) and for the most part he's blown his foes away.What Parker and Joshua have done as professionals is comparable and I think it's off the mark to suggest that as pros Parker's name doesn't belong in the same sentence.

I rate Joshua higher and suspect that he will eventually prove to be the better pro, but for now there are still questions to be asked of both and I don't think it's been clearly shown that one is already levels above the other. I also think it's odd that certain people are sensitive about questions being asked of Joshua yet then play the skeptic card in Parker's case; there is no problem with asking questions about either fighter and asking questions doesn't equate to predicting failure.

Parker has only fought just over 50 rounds vs Joshua 25 rounds
professionally .

If Joshua was so good then why is parker ranked higher by boxrec computers?

parker is too fast for the brit and will outgun him and any heavyweight parker hits will fall over because he has developed his punching power.

Also note that parker has gone 10 rounds total this year in 4 fights and is scheduled to fight again in december.

Joshua on the other hand fought an impressive 7 times for 12 rounds.

Both these guys need to step up to more durable opponents clearly

Joshua and Parker are both untested, neither has fought anyone good.

Parker is the most talented Heavyweight in this part of the world by a country mile.

Mr Icaman wrote:What ever he does he need to start getting a profile in the USA.

Might be time to go fighting over there..

Parker is planning on heading over to the US in mid to late next year.

johnswan1 wrote:Parkers name should not even be in the same sentence as Joshua.

Parker has had a very carefully built pro career.

Whenever I see an upcoming prospect, especially heavy, I always go to try to see how he fared as an amateur as that is the only experience most novice pros have had where they've been in competitive fights.

In Parkers case he failed to pick up a medal at the 2010 Commonwealth games, and didn't qualify for the 2012 Olympics - a tournament won by Anthony Joshua. That doesn't read too great.

So until Parker beats a live body as a pro I for one will not be buying into any of the hype.

Parker is 2.5 years younger than Aj, he will turn 24 in january. considering his Age his opponents are not worse than Joshuas, in fact they might not be much worse even not considering Age.

3 Best opponents:

AJ: Kevin Johnson, Michael sprott, Baktov/airich/Skelton

JP: kali meehan, sherman williams, Brian minto

yes AJs opponents were slightly better (especially the third, 4th 5th best guy) but considering their Age difference not by much. the Age difference between JP and AJ is larger than the Age gap between fury and AJ (fury is only a Little more than a year older than AJ), so maybe that should put some perspective on the AJ vs JP comparison.

JP does not seem to be a super hard Puncher (Needs a lot of punches to put away C Level fighters) but he is not a soft tosser either and a quite variable boxer with good combinations and Body work. in contrast AJ is stronger but relies more on overpowering his Opponent so his skills take less time to develope.

still I think both have a good future. JP is faster and more versatile and AJ is bigger and physically stronger.

Parker and AJ have both been given absolutely everything they need to be full-time professionals with great facilities, sparring partners, camps with Klitscko etc. etc.
They both train incredibly hard, because they both seem to have a hunger, drive and team support that is rare. They can focus 100% on boxing.
They're both helping make the future of the heavy division look bright, with the promise of some great fights to look forward to.
As for Joseph, I think he'll be avoided, and Duco will have to shell out to get half decent opponents. I doubt they can offer the money Hearns can

dominik wrote:

johnswan1 wrote:Parkers name should not even be in the same sentence as Joshua.

Parker has had a very carefully built pro career.

Whenever I see an upcoming prospect, especially heavy, I always go to try to see how he fared as an amateur as that is the only experience most novice pros have had where they've been in competitive fights.

In Parkers case he failed to pick up a medal at the 2010 Commonwealth games, and didn't qualify for the 2012 Olympics - a tournament won by Anthony Joshua. That doesn't read too great.

So until Parker beats a live body as a pro I for one will not be buying into any of the hype.

Parker is 2.5 years younger than Aj, he will turn 24 in january. considering his Age his opponents are not worse than Joshuas, in fact they might not be much worse even not considering Age.

3 Best opponents:

AJ: Kevin Johnson, Michael sprott, Baktov/airich/Skelton

JP: kali meehan, sherman williams, Brian minto

yes AJs opponents were slightly better (especially the third, 4th 5th best guy) but considering their Age difference not by much. the Age difference between JP and AJ is larger than the Age gap between fury and AJ (fury is only a Little more than a year older than AJ), so maybe that should put some perspective on the AJ vs JP comparison.

JP does not seem to be a super hard Puncher (Needs a lot of punches to put away C Level fighters) but he is not a soft tosser either and a quite variable boxer with good combinations and Body work. in contrast AJ is stronger but relies more on overpowering his Opponent so his skills take less time to develope.

still I think both have a good future. JP is faster and more versatile and AJ is bigger and physically stronger.

Joshua putting away Bakhtov was very impressive.

crusader wrote:

sendo wrote:Sorry but wake me up when he fights someone who hasn't been stopped before, or even better has a recent notable win. Beating a 45 year old Kali Meehan is meaningless.

Everyone he's fought has been stopped before and not even at world level. Still big questions to ask about this kid.

Skeptical eh?

That's the right attitude!

Exactly the attitude I've had towards AJ for a while now.
Show us what he has against a propper test before we proclaim him as the new Cassius Clay

johnswan1 wrote:Parkers name should not even be in the same sentence as Joshua.

why not, they are both exciting prospects who have similar pro achievements

Parker has had a very carefully built pro career.

like AJ

Whenever I see an upcoming prospect, especially heavy, I always go to try to see how he fared as an amateur as that is the only experience most novice pros have had where they've been in competitive fights.

In Parkers case he failed to pick up a medal at the 2010 Commonwealth games, and didn't qualify for the 2012 Olympics - a tournament won by Anthony Joshua. That doesn't read too great.

see Audley Harrison

So until Parker beats a live body as a pro I for one will not be buying into any of the hype.

I'm still waiting on AJ doing the same.
I'm excited about AJ and think he looks a great prospect who could potentially reach the top and light up the division
But I've seen too many David Prices and Audley Harrisons to keep making the same mistakes

Grailer wrote:
parker is too fast for the brit and will outgun him and any heavyweight parker hits will fall over because he has developed his punching power.

A bold prediction

dominik wrote:
yes AJs opponents were slightly better (especially the third, 4th 5th best guy) but considering their Age difference not by much. the Age difference between JP and AJ is larger than the Age gap between fury and AJ (fury is only a Little more than a year older than AJ), so maybe that should put some perspective on the AJ vs JP comparison.

Completely redundant comparison. AJ and JP have been pro's a similar length of time.
TF turned over far younger and has been a pro much longer.
Age has little relevance

davie wrote:

dominik wrote:
yes AJs opponents were slightly better (especially the third, 4th 5th best guy) but considering their Age difference not by much. the Age difference between JP and AJ is larger than the Age gap between fury and AJ (fury is only a Little more than a year older than AJ), so maybe that should put some perspective on the AJ vs JP comparison.

Completely redundant comparison. AJ and JP have been pro's a similar length of time.
TF turned over far younger and has been a pro much longer.
Age has little relevance

but you can't just look at pro boxing time. the Am game is different but still that experience Counts for something. a guy like povetkin who was an Am till his mid 20s will Need less time to develope than a guy like fury with almost no Amateur experience.

parker turned pro the same year as AJ but he probably had less Amateur experience at least at a high Level. of course experience is more important than Age but still you expect a 26 year old like AJ to be farther along the line in his developement than and 23yo parker.

Parker does look like another David Price to me. I was surprised in the Meehan fight how open he was and so many wide punches. Doubt this kid gets to be a genuine world title challenger. He's a talent level below Joshua.

sendo wrote:Parker does look like another David Price to me. I was surprised in the Meehan fight how open he was and so many wide punches. Doubt this kid gets to be a genuine world title challenger. He's a talent level below Joshua.

Well even the world champion rates him as one of the top 3
young prospects in the world after sparring him.

source:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qQj3XKYdtlw

Parker was boxing Meehan at first but after he realised Meehan
was a shot fighter he forgot about boxing and went for
the knockout .. credit to Meehan for lasting till round 3
only his pride kept him up.

Joseph Parker will face a southpaw for the first time in his bout in Samoa on January 23rd.

Parker's Samoan schedule, dubbed "Rumble in Paradise" was confirmed in Apia on Thursday.

Parker's opponent is yet to be named, but his promoters have confirmed that he will face "a risky left-handed fighter for the very first time".

Parker said he is thrilled to be getting a chance to fight in Samoa, where both his parents were born and the island is a regular holiday destination with his family owning property there.

Parker has certainly achieved a lot at a young age.

With his unbeaten record of 16 wins, including 14 by stoppage, he is currently the youngest fighter in the top 30 in the major boxing organisations.

Parker is now WBO #6, WBA #13, and WBC #14.

Like a Boss wrote:Parker's opponent is yet to be named, but his promoters have confirmed that he will face "a risky left-handed fighter for the very first time".

Ok, either these guys completely bullshitting us or Parker is fighting one of either Tony Thompson, Antonio Tarver, Ruslan Chagaev or Mike Perez.

If it's not one of these four fighters then don't bother.

johnswan1 wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:Parker's opponent is yet to be named, but his promoters have confirmed that he will face "a risky left-handed fighter for the very first time".

Ok, either these guys completely bullshitting us or Parker is fighting one of either Tony Thompson, Antonio Tarver, Ruslan Chagaev or Mike Perez.

If it's not one of these four fighters then don't bother.

szpilka or mansour also would be OK at this Point of his career. maybe also pianeta.

Southpaw? Joey Abell?