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I like Froch. great fighter but he bes stay the hell away from GGG

Froch gets his ass whooped.

Who would you prefer ?

Cotto ... Miguel can barely make 160
Canelo ... Young tough strong with a punchers chance
Froch ... Weight advantage, forcing GGG to move up.

I think GGG would win, but Froch would be by FAR the best fighter he has faced and he's much bigger, so he's definitely be in with a chance.

Nightmare Roy wrote:I think GGG would win, but Froch would be by FAR the best fighter he has faced and he's much bigger, so he's definitely be in with a chance.

Agreed with by far best opponent, but speaking about size, Froch is no bigger than Murray or Rubio.

If Froch were to come out of retirement to fight GGG. It would be GGG's coming out party at 168 to gauge himself in a future match up with Andre Ward. Froch ain't beating GGG. GGG would just wear him down.

It appears that Froch in fact called Hearn to ask about his opinion regarding GGG fight:

http://www.spam.com/news/article22251.html?

I am wondering what Hearn replied.

*** replace "spam" in the link with fight_hype without underscore.

Froch by KO, too big, too strong.

I think it would be a hard fight whoever won. Carl is a bigger man than GGG, and is used to fighting bigger men. The main thing that Carl always struggled with is speed, and GGG isn't that quick.

I think it would be a fairly even fight. You'd maybe favour golovkin as he is younger, more active, and less miles on the clock, but it's no foregone conclusion.

Froch had the GGG option before he retired.

Maybe he's finding life after boxing boring and he's getting the itch for that Vegas megafight he's dreamed off.

Cracking dust up if it happens. I picked Golovkin when it was rumoured before but Froch has staying power, would love this fight to happen.

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Golovkin should get on the phone to Froch and offer him the lions share. There's a real lack of spark around to make GGG the ppv superstar he wants to be. Froch out of retirement is his dream opponent.

Ricky_ wrote:Froch had the GGG option before he retired.

Maybe he's finding life after boxing boring and he's getting the itch for that Vegas megafight he's dreamed off.

Cracking dust up if it happens. I picked Golovkin when it was rumoured before but Froch has staying power, would love this fight to happen.

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Golovkin should get on the phone to Froch and offer him the lions share. There's a real lack of spark around to make GGG the ppv superstar he wants to be. Froch out of retirement is his dream opponent.

Would Golovkin get credit for beating out of retirement Froch, or Froch would be immediately labeled as "shot" ?

Ideal variant for Golovkin would Froch first beating one of other SMW champions all of whom except Ward are pretty soft and then facing Golovkin who would hopefully get at least one more MW belt by that time.

ikorolev wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:Froch had the GGG option before he retired.

Maybe he's finding life after boxing boring and he's getting the itch for that Vegas megafight he's dreamed off.

Cracking dust up if it happens. I picked Golovkin when it was rumoured before but Froch has staying power, would love this fight to happen.

*edit*

Golovkin should get on the phone to Froch and offer him the lions share. There's a real lack of spark around to make GGG the ppv superstar he wants to be. Froch out of retirement is his dream opponent.

Would Golovkin get credit for beating out of retirement Froch, or Froch would be immediately labeled as "shot" ?

Ideal variant for Golovkin would Froch first beating one of other SMW champions all of whom except Ward are pretty soft and then facing Golovkin who would hopefully get at least one more MW belt by that time.

Doesn't matter about getting credit right now, he needs status. A matchup vs an out-of-retirement Froch sells big and gives him status.

ikorolev wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:Froch had the GGG option before he retired.

Maybe he's finding life after boxing boring and he's getting the itch for that Vegas megafight he's dreamed off.

Cracking dust up if it happens. I picked Golovkin when it was rumoured before but Froch has staying power, would love this fight to happen.

*edit*

Golovkin should get on the phone to Froch and offer him the lions share. There's a real lack of spark around to make GGG the ppv superstar he wants to be. Froch out of retirement is his dream opponent.

Would Golovkin get credit for beating out of retirement Froch, or Froch would be immediately labeled as "shot" ?

Ideal variant for Golovkin would Froch first beating one of other SMW champions all of whom except Ward are pretty soft and then facing Golovkin who would hopefully get at least one more MW belt by that time.

I appreciate your belief in Golovkin as a cross between Superman and the Incredible Hulk and that Froch needs to prove his worth before fighting him, but he has beaten Abraham up pretty convincingly already and Abraham has faded since then. Froch wouldn't get out of bed to fight Badou Jack and James Degale is in no way soft and personally I think as Froch is probably not going to come out of retirement it would be extremely impressive if Golvkin moved up in weight and took him on straight away, let alone if Froch came out of retirement and beat him to 'prove he isn't shot' so that Golovkin was 'allowed' to take credit for beating him. Froch is a guy who fought pretty much everybody in his era and retired with the absolute right to do so. That he considered (however briefly) sticking around to fight Golovkin and is apparently considering testing himself again against the new best of the era is commendable, but not necessary. If he did un-retire it would be to fight the best and that would be Golovkin, and he wouldn't have to prove himself to do it. It would be to challenge himself one last time. If he beat Golovkin would Golovkin be labelled as too small or overrated having only fought B listers and never were's? It's weird that you want to try and big up all of Golovkin's rubbish opponents but when very good opponents (Froch and Ward) are mentioned in the same breath as him you think he'll steamroll them. You realise both these guys would kill all of Golovkin's opponents in similar fashion? None of them would last the distance with either of them. I honestly think it's good that you're excited about him but didn't you ever get annoyed with some of the horrible posters who are obsessed with Mayweather, or Pacquiao? You are Golovkin's KBB. Seriously. Calm down.

clopixolacuphase wrote:I appreciate your belief in Golovkin as a cross between Superman and the Incredible Hulk and that Froch needs to prove his worth before fighting him

Don't tell me what I believe. You are too stupid for that. I never said that Froch needs to prove himself. What he would need is a good warm-up.

clopixolacuphase wrote: , but he has beaten Abraham up pretty convincingly already and Abraham has faded since then.

... and Froch didn't fade ? Ali defeated Foreman a long time ago. Would he beat him now ?

clopixolacuphase wrote: If he beat Golovkin would Golovkin be labelled as too small or overrated

He definitely would be labeled as such.

clopixolacuphase wrote: when very good opponents (Froch and Ward) are mentioned in the same breath as him you think he'll steamroll them. You realise both these guys would kill all of Golovkin's opponents in similar fashion? None of them would last the distance with either of them.

When was the last time when feather-fisted Ward stopped somebody fighting at his own weight ? 2009 when he stopped a journeyman who was stopped twice before that. No way Ward would stop Murray or Stevens.

clopixolacuphase wrote: I honestly think it's good that you're excited about him but didn't you ever get annoyed with some of the horrible posters who are obsessed with Mayweather, or Pacquiao? You are Golovkin's KBB. Seriously. Calm down.

I am not obsessed with anybody. However, I have eyes and I believe that Golovkin would beat Froch and Ward regardless of their resumes. Resumes don't fight -- boxers do. Ward clearly WAS the best of these two potential opponents, but he has never been in the ring with somebody like Golovkin and he has clearly lost something, as he is avoiding fighting anybody with a pulse.

Who needs to calm down is you, regardless whether you are praying Froch or Ward.

I love Froch, but GGG would retire him.

jewboypgh wrote:I love Froch, but GGG would retire him.

He already did. Froch retired to not face him.

ikorolev wrote:

jewboypgh wrote:I love Froch, but GGG would retire him.

He already did. Froch retired to not face him.

He knew better. Rather he fought some big fight instead of retiring on that Groves farce.

Thought he was better than that, clearly i was wrong.

Froch is brave enough to do it. But if I had to put money on it, I would say that I think Carl is retired for good. And who could blame him?

Crease wrote:Froch is brave enough to do it. But if I had to put money on it, I would say that I think Carl is retired for good. And who could blame him?

Well said.

Look at all the man has given us as fans already

Crease wrote:Froch is brave enough to do it. But if I had to put money on it, I would say that I think Carl is retired for good. And who could blame him?

is he really though? He retired so he didn't have to face him IMO

Counter-puncher wrote:^^^ this

GGG makes his fellow 160lbers look even shitter than they are because he's really fuckin good. But lets not forget how shitty they are.

At 160 he will never have an opponent properly challenge him I am sure and no, not his fault he plies his trade in a shitty age for middleweights.

I don't know if that even makes me question GGG.

More like it makes me sad I may not get to see him challenged at 160. Ward at 168 would have been swell though

GGG would make DeGale, Jack, Abraham, Chudinov look as sh1tty as MWs. Yes, prime Ward would be interesting, but it looks like that guy is gone.

Marlo Stanfield wrote:is he really though?

Certainly, when has Froch ever backed down from a challenge? Throughout his whole career he always wanted the toughest fights, he spent the early part of his career chasing Joe Calzaghe for god sake. And he took fights against the likes of Andre Ward and Mikkel Kessler (x2)

Marlo Stanfield wrote:He retired so he didn't have to face him IMO

They aren't even the same weight class. Froch never fought at Middleweight - and Golovkin has never fought at Super Middleweight. That's a pretty bizarre statement to make.

Marlo Stanfield wrote:is he really though? He retired so he didn't have to face him IMO

Like Crease said, he didn't have to fight him anyway.

Horse wrote:

Marlo Stanfield wrote:is he really though? He retired so he didn't have to face him IMO

Like Crease said, he didn't have to fight him anyway.

He didn't have to, but he was thinking about it saying that if he fights anybody, it would be Golovkin. He twitted "Too big, too strong for GGG", but when Loefler replied suggesting him to prove it, Froch disappeared.

ikorolev wrote:He didn't have to, but he was thinking about it saying that if he fights anybody, it would be Golovkin. He twitted "Too big, too strong for GGG", but when Loefler replied suggesting him to prove it, Froch disappeared.

Froch had plenty of very good opponents to face, Golovkin was just one of them.

Hopefully it can still happen and we'll see if Froch can prove it or not.