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reggaereggae wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Funny, years ago I had a mate (well, an acquaintance let's say), who was the son of a university lecturer and a librarian, he was from a comfortable middle class background, and grew up around Ladbroke grove, which back in the 80's was still quite a tasty manor - and certainly had it's share of villain.

The long and short of it, was he longed to be a gangster - and he ended up becoming one, well, in his own mind anyway, he starting knocking out crack, and associating with a lot of very dodgy people, some of whom were genuine hard nuts. In the end, he kind of got what he was looking for, because he got caught on camera during operation bumblebee supplying crack to prostitutes, and was done up like a kipper. His parents had their door smashed in on Christmas day. He was however a complete and utter coward, and he convinced his poor younger brother, to take the heat for him, and paid him for his time. In the end though his brother disowned him, he got nicked again at a later date, and went to jail.

Last I heard, he was driving a bus. Not quite as gangster as he'd hoped I'd guess.

I guess the point I'm making is that it's possible Atlas is nowhere near as much of anything as he claims. He is certainly unstable, and quite annoying at times, and nowhere near the trainer he would like to believe. Some people would rather be a part of a world they really have no business being in, but it doesn't stop them getting involved.

I know. There are middle class guys who go nuts and get involved. There's a guy I heard from Dulwich college whose mother owns a long term shop in kings road. But he was seduced by the villainous life and shot some guy coming out of prison. Now doing life. It happens. But all I'm saying is that not only does Atlas story not ring true, but there is zero, I mean ZERO record of his claims..... He s a fake, a liar, and a guy who was born into a privileged family who wished he was tough and plays this role. Along with his fake scar

palooka wrote:I think he has some good insights into boxing and he can explain things well but he's too full of himself and has told some untruths to make a legend of himself - he does things for other people through the foundation nothing so he's not a horrible man, just a nutcase.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

palooka wrote:I think he has some good insights into boxing and he can explain things well but he's too full of himself and has told some untruths to make a legend of himself - he does things for other people through the foundation nothing so he's not a horrible man, just a nutcase.

I'd say that chimes with what I think. Like many other people, the truth doesn't suffice in providing the image of himself he'd like to have, so he's embellished reality a bit. Doesn't make him a mass murderer or rapist, just a bit of a bullshitter.

Tomasino wrote:Teddy Atlas was Golden Gloves champion of The Adirondaks. Nuff said.

Bleak wrote:Anybody seen the documentary from about 1983, just watched it
Really good watch, good insight in how Teddy Alas operated ,in the
Early days, pretty much adopting that little lad, really enjoyable,
I always thought at atlas one one tough ..... But showed a nice side on this