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November 2016 (Wlad is retired) - Joshua, Povetkin, Usyk, Hellenius, Haye, Wilder

ValMar wrote:November 2016 (Wlad is retired) - Joshua, Povetkin, Usyk, Hellenius, Haye, Wilder

HOLY FUGGIN $HIT HAYE IS FUGGIN RETIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get it through your head.

Hate shouldn't ever come back after the embarrassment of ducking fights.

IMO Haye is not a gentleman, he is sometimes a little bit of coward (see Valuev, Klitschko)...........but, he is still young for retirement, and he is excellent figter.
I think only Wlad is clearly better. His (DH) chances against Povetkin, Joshua, Wilder and Hellenius are 50/50 I'm not sure for youngsters (Usyk and Parker)........

ValMar wrote:IMO Haye is not a gentleman, he is sometimes a little bit of coward (see Valuev, Klitschko)...........but, he is still young for retirement, and he is excellent figter.
I think only Wlad is clearly better. His (DH) chances against Povetkin, Joshua, Wilder and Hellenius are 50/50 I'm not sure for youngsters (Usyk and Parker)........

I'm certain Povetkin beats Haye, Joshua would beat him. But I've never been completely sold on Wilder, still he does hold a heavyweight title.

A few good ones that would excite me.

Light Heavyweight
1. Sergey Kovalev
2. Adonis Stevenson
3. Artur Beterbiev
4. Andre Ward
5. Jean Pascal
6. Yunieski Gonzalez

or

Featherweight
1. Vasyl Lomachenko
2. Nicholas Walters
3. Guillermo Rigondeaux
4. Leo Santa Cruz
5. Gary Russell Jr.
6. Carl Frampton

ValMar wrote:IMO Haye is not a gentleman, he is sometimes a little bit of coward (see Valuev, Klitschko)...........but, he is still young for retirement, and he is excellent figter.
I think only Wlad is clearly better. His (DH) chances against Povetkin, Joshua, Wilder and Hellenius are 50/50 I'm not sure for youngsters (Usyk and Parker)........

Dude I am sorry that you can not grasp this.
But Haye is 35 years old and has not fought in 3 years.If you have seen him lately he looks like
a homeless bum.Haye is not in fighting shape and at his age it would take him about a year to get back into fighting shape.We have no idea how his reflexes would be being out of the sport that long and 35 is old in boxing.Most fighters are washed up at that age.
Haye's power came from his speed.That diminishes with age.His reflexes will be slower and we do not know with his money situation if he has the drive to participate at such a high level again.
Please understand that Haye is done.

tiny_acres wrote:

ValMar wrote:IMO Haye is not a gentleman, he is sometimes a little bit of coward (see Valuev, Klitschko)...........but, he is still young for retirement, and he is excellent figter.
I think only Wlad is clearly better. His (DH) chances against Povetkin, Joshua, Wilder and Hellenius are 50/50 I'm not sure for youngsters (Usyk and Parker)........

Dude I am sorry that you can not grasp this.
But Haye is 35 years old and has not fought in 3 years.If you have seen him lately he looks like
a homeless bum.Haye is not in fighting shape and at his age it would take him about a year to get back into fighting shape.We have no idea how his reflexes would be being out of the sport that long and 35 is old in boxing.Most fighters are washed up at that age.
Haye's power came from his speed.That diminishes with age.His reflexes will be slower and we do not know with his money situation if he has the drive to participate at such a high level again.
Please understand that Haye is done.

Personally I'd love to see Haye come back and get knocked out, but in all likelihood if he DID comeback, he'd schedule a fight. Talk all kinds of trash, and then dislocate his Pinky finger in training camp, and call the fight off...ya know. His life story.

It' possible that David Haye is shot (done). Frankly speaking, I rooted against him (I don't like Big Mouths - Trash Talking). But I would pay half of may month salary to see him next year against Joshua, Povetkin or Usyk.

ValMar wrote:It' possible that David Haye is shot (done). Frankly speaking, I rooted against him (I don't like Big Mouths - Trash Talking). But I would pay half of may month salary to see him next year against Joshua, Povetkin or Usyk.

I would not waste one single dollar on that worthless sob.
I hate his excuses and his cancelling fights.No fighter that I can remember has postponed or cancelled
fights like Haye did.
The guy is a waste of talent.

tiny_acres wrote:

ValMar wrote:It' possible that David Haye is shot (done). Frankly speaking, I rooted against him (I don't like Big Mouths - Trash Talking). But I would pay half of may month salary to see him next year against Joshua, Povetkin or Usyk.

I would not waste one single dollar on that worthless sob.
I hate his excuses and his cancelling fights.No fighter that I can remember has postponed or cancelled
fights like Haye did.
The guy is a waste of talent.

Spot on! What annoys me the most though is, after realising he wasn't landing enough on Wlad he settled too lose on points IMO. And then blamed his toe. Crybaby, waste of talent and from what I've read a complete tosser.

LGilsenan wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

ValMar wrote:It' possible that David Haye is shot (done). Frankly speaking, I rooted against him (I don't like Big Mouths - Trash Talking). But I would pay half of may month salary to see him next year against Joshua, Povetkin or Usyk.

I would not waste one single dollar on that worthless sob.
I hate his excuses and his cancelling fights.No fighter that I can remember has postponed or cancelled
fights like Haye did.
The guy is a waste of talent.

Spot on! What annoys me the most though is, after realising he wasn't landing enough on Wlad he settled too lose on points IMO. And then blamed his toe. Crybaby, waste of talent and from what I've read a complete tosser.

The only fighter I can honestly say I just can not stand.
He pisses me off to no end

Dude, don't hate !

David Haye hasn't fought in 3 years and 3 months. Can people please stop talking about David Haye.

ValMar wrote:Dude, don't hate !

Been burnt too many times by him.I was looking forward to several times he was scheduled and crap
happened and the fight was called off.
I lost all respect for him

klitoris wrote:David Haye hasn't fought in 3 years and 3 months. Can people please stop talking about David Haye.

I was just simply sharing my opinion on someone else's super six. But you're right lets get back on topic.

I thought that my posts haven't been out of topic. I've considered super six for 2016 in HW division. OK, we couldn't agree about David Haye, and I'll make new list without him.............Let it be : Joshua, Povetkin, Usyk, Wilder, Hellenius and Parker.