Are you disappointed about this?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 Jul 2004, 10:21

Right, well that kicks the bollocks out of that story. The same cannot be said for Calzaghe however.

tea · Post by **tea** » 06 Jul 2004, 10:23

Reeso u talk crap,and ive noticed ur tones gone down.Earl morais had been KOd twice the same year he fought Macca.Macca is learning nothing he won every round in the last fight ,waste of time.Every good trainer,manager n promoter knows fighters need to lose rounds and then come through to win thats how a fighter learns who he is.Maccas losing no rounds and learning nothing....the only people learning is the public on how poor Macca really is.As for Hobson nHaye been offered the the fight that just goes to show how naive u fools r.....Ive got it on v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v.v good authority Hobsons team have never been offered it, and I cant speak for Hayes team ,but I know of them and they seem very serious about there intentions and that includes Hobson and they do make genuine attempts to make things happen so I dont believe for 1 min theSN spin doctor xtremebox or urself ,u guys r just trying to confuse the public but u know the old saying....u can fool sum of the people.Now heres one fact for u......afriend of mine got a phone call from one of the sky team on sunday about that xciting stuff we all sat through on sat, anyhow it turns out alot of the sky team were v.v.v.v.v dissapointed with Macca on sat,a little bit different to what they thought of Hobson when he fought that guy who KOd Macca,in the words of Jim Watt .... A prfect performance from start to finish.I woder if Swaby was as tough as wotsisname,that L Heavy Macca just boxed.

adamiw · Post by **adamiw** » 06 Jul 2004, 10:35

bennie wrote:PS: since winning the WBU title last year against Bruce Scott, Enzo has fought men who wouldn't have beaten Scott (indeed, Scott had stopped Garry Delaney). Enzo's going backwards in other words.

i actually think team Maccarinelli are willing to take risks. Swaby in your 4th fight is a risk, and certainly most people thought he had bitten off more than he could chew by facing Scott (as out of shape as he was). I think they'd genuinely take a Nelson fight, but i think SN want to take their time more.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 06 Jul 2004, 10:41

That's surprising eh?

bennie · Post by **bennie** » 06 Jul 2004, 10:47

adamiw wrote:
bennie wrote:PS: since winning the WBU title last year against Bruce Scott, Enzo has fought men who wouldn't have beaten Scott (indeed, Scott had stopped Garry Delaney). Enzo's going backwards in other words.
i actually think team Maccarinelli are willing to take risks. Swaby in your 4th fight is a risk, and certainly most people thought he had bitten off more than he could chew by facing Scott (as out of shape as he was). I think they'd genuinely take a Nelson fight, but i think SN want to take their time more.

Swaby was totally unheralded at the time. They thought he was just an "opponent" for Maccarinelli - and haven't gone anywhere near him since.
Scott was a risk, true. And look what nearly happened? Enzo's camp won't be taking any risks for a while yet.

tea · Post by **tea** » 06 Jul 2004, 11:23

Well spotted u guys the truths getting spoken at long last. However when Macca fought Swaby he was 7w 9l 1d,and he losy 3 out of four after that fight.Hes only just turned his career round with only2 losses in his last 14 both to Hobson.Listen im an Hobson fan but im objective Haye is definatley trying to make things happen Crappa n team are not fact.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 06 Jul 2004, 11:25

bennie wrote: Scott was a risk, true. And look what nearly happened? Enzo's camp won't be taking any risks for a while yet.

SN knew exactly what was going on with Bruce.... the poor guy hadn't been able to run for 18 months and was up at 16stone+not long before the fight... He knew he had a couple of rounds to get Enzo out of there or he was fcuked.... But he had no choice really if he turned the fight down he would have been out of favour with Frank and out of pocket too

Reeso · Post by **Reeso** » 06 Jul 2004, 12:18

Tea

Get a fornicating brain

and for fornicate sake this swaby thing ok he lost to him but he wasnt really bothered those days week before the fight he was pissed as fornicate and was more bothered about what he would ware after the fight.
These days totally changed around boxing everyday even yesterday morning he went for a 5 mile run.
If swaby beat hobson he would have been asked to fight macca as he looked fornicating awfull no chance wast of time macca would blow him out in 2.
He now wants Nelson Hobson or Haye he can only fight who is in front off him

tea · Post by **tea** » 06 Jul 2004, 13:22

Well why dont they approach the appropriate management teams then and if these teams turn them down go to boxing news and tell everyone, so with that in mind lets just see if they do approach any of them coz the other teams are all talking so theres no lying to anybody there is there. Gut feeling...They won't approach any of them there all too dangerous for Crappa and they'll go the easy route. what you don't seem to realise reeso is there the ones with the money and the title its up to them to make the offer like you said earlier, they won't give up the Wbullshit to fight for the British (even though i think its more prestigious and harder to win and defend) so its up to their office to get in touch with serious offers and dates, contracts, and suitable time allowance not 1 week.

Reeso · Post by **Reeso** » 06 Jul 2004, 14:09

What about shemiskur went to points with Hobnob and macca stopped him in the first round putting him down 4 times in a minute and a half

xtremebox · Post by **xtremebox** » 06 Jul 2004, 20:30

Tommy Gilmour turned down a Enzo - Hobson fight FACT. He prpbaly didn't tell Hobson but the fatc remains he turned it down by asking for a figure that was too reiduclous for words.

Swaby turned down a rematch and got spanked by Hobson. FACT

I am sure if Enzo was with another Promoter you lot would be sucking his dick.

You are so blinkered you wouldn't know a good fighter if you saw one.

Haye bottled out of the Commonwealth Games and scarpered to London when he saw his next opponent - The glory? don't make me laugh!

Went to see a physio, why weren't there any in Manchester at the Games?

Lefthookhappy19 · Post by **Lefthookhappy19** » 06 Jul 2004, 21:16

All fighters seem to demand figures too ridiculus for words when it comes to trying to make a fight with FW. Mitchell, Hobson (according too you), Harris, Witter and I know im forgetting a few more, thats just this year alone. Everyone demands too much from poor Frank.

He's short of money to make these fights of course, only being Europe's biggest promoter and maybe the 3rd biggest in the world and all. Superstars like Mark Hobson and Vivian Harris just ask too much

KOJOE90 · Post by **KOJOE90** » 07 Jul 2004, 12:57

I seemed to have re-opened a can of worms here.