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Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 15:30
by Horse
littlepug wrote:would like to see this show but just cant let myself pay for it, why on earth this needs to be ppv is beyond me, the fighters cant be getting paid that much surely ? and if thats the reason just pay them less, they are still learning the game for gods sake.
It doesn't need to be PPV, but it is because it will probably make more money that way.

This idea that a show can only be a PPV if that's the only way the fight could be financed seems silly to me.

Was it Hearn himself who hyped up this idea whilst trying to justify a previous PPV show?

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 15:37
by LGilsenan
littlepug wrote:would like to see this show but just cant let myself pay for it, why on earth this needs to be ppv is beyond me, the fighters cant be getting paid that much surely ? and if thats the reason just pay them less, they are still learning the game for gods sake.
Spot on mate :TU:

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 15:43
by moogie101
Sadly most on here already assumed this was going PPV from how Hearn has been talking about it.

Coming two weeks after the Fury PPV seems a bit of a cash grab especially so close to Christmas.

Whilst I'll accept that Joshua seems a great prospect, that's all he is & this is just another domestic scrap, no way is this a PPV fight. But he's got some serious name power & I can see people shelling out for this, PPV is going to get far worse come 2016 if this is a success.

Of course Fury might get sparked in a round, upset the casuals & they won't be prepared to shell out for another potentially disappointing boxing PPV. A few I know are still upset after the Pac/ Mayweather fight.

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 15:44
by handsofstone
Shocking decision to make this PPV but not surprised with Eddie/Sky they love nothing more than sticking 2 fingers up

Its getting to the point where we have to pay PPV for one of his shows if it got more than one 50/50 on it,

The worst thing is he says himself when a fighter fights PPV their a PPV fighter from now on,like he says with Brook,so now Joshua is a PPV fighter i expect punters to get fleeced until he gets beat,might be this fight,might be in 20 fights time

But Joshua will be PPV through British,European and world level,assuming he gets that far

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 15:46
by Tarkus
That is a testament of how strong boxing has become in the UK. Two untested prospects on PPV. B/C level domestic fighters on PPV. And fans are buying them, happily. You have to give it to Eddie, the man is a genius. :bow:

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 15:54
by Manchester Massive
Equivalent of Bruno v Cummings being PPV

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 15:56
by palooka
wesshaw1985 wrote:Time to vote with your wallets...
That was some time ago.

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 16:20
by rossco3343
forestbox wrote:never thought I would see the day, a british title fight ppv
Groves degale was ppv headline when frank was still on sky albeit it was because the Clev ended up with a last minute replacement

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 16:24
by Boxerbeetle
rossco3343 wrote:
forestbox wrote:never thought I would see the day, a british title fight ppv
Groves degale was ppv headline when frank was still on sky albeit it was because the Clev ended up with a last minute replacement
Yup. Hearn rightly gets some stick, particularly for his recent output, but Frank put on plenty of shocking PPVs when he was on Sky.

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 17:00
by moogie101
Boxerbeetle wrote:
rossco3343 wrote:
forestbox wrote:never thought I would see the day, a british title fight ppv
Groves degale was ppv headline when frank was still on sky albeit it was because the Clev ended up with a last minute replacement
Yup. Hearn rightly gets some stick, particularly for his recent output, but Frank put on plenty of shocking PPVs when he was on Sky.

True, but I remember when he (via Sky) used to put on a PPV that included a strong domestic card, then crossing over to America for another show which included genuine boxing stars. To me that's what a PPV should be, but those days are long gone.

No way a domestic scrap deserves PPV status, especially when both guys are unproven at World level. But as already said Joshua will be considered a PPV fighter from now on, unless this bombs of course.

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 17:07
by stu 27
Could Brook be on this now he is a PPV fighter?

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 17:09
by Horse
moogie101 wrote:No way a domestic scrap deserves PPV status, especially when both guys are unproven at World level. But as already said Joshua will be considered a PPV fighter from now on, unless this bombs of course.
Whyte's not even proven at English title level.

Could he even beat McDermott for his English title? We don't know because it didn't happen for whatever reason.

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 17:42
by SteveDow
Of course this is PPV worthy. I mean how can Eddie afford to put average domestic fights on TV otherwise? Needless to say I won't be buying it.

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 18:24
by pyenest77
stu 27 wrote:Could Brook be on this now he is a PPV fighter?
No injured out till 2016.

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 20:02
by jamesmcdonnell
I hope this fight tanks on the figures, otherwise we'll be getting more tripe like this on PPV.
I think it's short termism too - surely Joshua needs exposure, he's not going to get that on a PPV event.

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 21:10
by digzee
mickey1975 wrote:Sticking Josh Warrington and Luke Campbell on and then telling them they can't have any tickets is a new low for Eddie. I'm sure he's not thought about the tens of thousands of extra buys those two will generate though...
What? Warrington and Campbell are on this bill? Have they really been told they are fighting but they aren't allowed ANY ticket's? Have either of them said anything?

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 14 Nov 2015, 02:46
by Sklar
Tarkus wrote:That is a testament of how strong boxing has become in the UK. Two untested prospects on PPV. B/C level domestic fighters on PPV. And fans are buying them, happily. You have to give it to Eddie, the man is a genius. :bow:
Would you let him touch you where you wee?

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 14 Nov 2015, 03:10
by dbf
The major problem is with PPV the buy rate probably doesn't have to be that high on an event like this to turn a decent profit. Sky hood their research and no what to expect, given the audiences for the last few AJ's last few fights they can probably accurately estimate how much will buy this fight. It's terrible but unfortunately it's the way the business works. I just hope the fans get sick of it.

I can't bear to watch sky's hype around this.

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 14 Nov 2015, 03:12
by mcbrando
Not a chance I'll be falling for this again! Bellew v Clev one still gives me nightmares!

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 14 Nov 2015, 03:16
by mickey1975
digzee wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:Sticking Josh Warrington and Luke Campbell on and then telling them they can't have any tickets is a new low for Eddie. I'm sure he's not thought about the tens of thousands of extra buys those two will generate though...
What? Warrington and Campbell are on this bill? Have they really been told they are fighting but they aren't allowed ANY ticket's? Have either of them said anything?
Both are on. The fans are welcome to buy from StubHub.

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 14 Nov 2015, 03:33
by asdfjkl
Lol, the whole internet will be full of free streams, it's allways like that. Dutch football has been bought by some rich American, he tought holland was a footballcrazy country and asked about 10 euro for every match. Since then a few persons buy it and simply stream it on youtube for example. Put a link in the discription where people who watch can send their money to and there you go, everybody happy except for some greedy rich persons.


Povetkin Wach was also live to see, so I don't have any worries not to see this live without paying a dime, I probably can't even pay them since I don't live in the UK.

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 14 Nov 2015, 03:36
by Emmseegee
:witzend:

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 14 Nov 2015, 09:07
by reggaereggae
What a disgrace. The sooner Sky sports boxing and fast Eddy are putvof business, the better

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 14 Nov 2015, 10:30
by Tarkus
Sklar wrote:
Tarkus wrote:That is a testament of how strong boxing has become in the UK. Two untested prospects on PPV. B/C level domestic fighters on PPV. And fans are buying them, happily. You have to give it to Eddie, the man is a genius. :bow:
Would you let him touch you where you wee?
Yes, but its PPT.

Re: Joshua vs Whyte on box office.

Posted: 14 Nov 2015, 10:36
by Nightmare Roy
You'll all fold and pay for it at the last minute and they will continue to fleece again and again.