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Re: Linares vs Zlaticanin WBC/RING magazine lightweight title

Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 21:43
by jujigatame
Taansend wrote: Nor do most people but that's not how the ranking system works. He beat a recently dethroned champion & then beat an undefeated prospect. That's why he's ranked so highly. That's how it works.

It's not based on what you or I think. It would be nice if it was but it's not.
I don't get your point. Of course it's not based on what you or I think, but it is based on what someone (The Ring's panel) thinks. I simply disagree with them.

Re: Linares vs Zlaticanin WBC/RING magazine lightweight title

Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 22:00
by Cutman Scabbers
Bobbyptsd wrote:
expe wrote:How the eff is this for the Ring title?
Who promotes Linares?

Teiken

Re: Linares vs Zlaticanin WBC/RING magazine lightweight title

Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 23:28
by Taansend
jujigatame wrote:
Taansend wrote: Nor do most people but that's not how the ranking system works. He beat a recently dethroned champion & then beat an undefeated prospect. That's why he's ranked so highly. That's how it works.

It's not based on what you or I think. It would be nice if it was but it's not.
I don't get your point. Of course it's not based on what you or I think, but it is based on what someone (The Ring's panel) thinks. I simply disagree with them.
Mr Juji,

Maybe we have crossed wires somewhere. Your original post said "Good fight although rating Zlaticanin #2 based on that one win over Burns is somewhat dubious.". So my point is that he's being rated on the Burns win AND the win over Redkach (who beat a couple of highly rated - by the Alphabets - fighters himself).

But are we talking about a different set of ratings? I don't think Zlaticanin is the 2nd best Lightweight out there but can see how one of the Alphabets would rate him so highly after those two wins.

Re: Linares vs Zlaticanin WBC/RING magazine lightweight title

Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 11:52
by jujigatame
He's ranked #2 by The Ring, not any alphabet body. People were curious as to how this fight could be for The Ring's championship belt, since I believe that The Ring requires a vacant title to be filled by a fight between #1 and #2, or #1 and #3, and I think most people would not rate Zlaticanin that highly.

Re: Linares vs Zlaticanin WBC/RING magazine lightweight title

Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 12:20
by crusader
At least going by the fighters I see in BoxRec's top 10 at 135, I don't have an issue with him being #2. He's not a clear cut #2 and I could see him being multiple spots lower, but to me it's not unreasonable to have him there.

What raises more of an issue for me, at least with respect to the Golden Boy bias people have hinted at, is Zlaticanin going from #6 to #2 without a fight, though there could be fair cause for that.

Re: Linares vs Zlaticanin WBC/RING magazine lightweight title

Posted: 27 Nov 2015, 19:47
by sgtcecil
Burns is not at the level he once was (when dejan beat him) but Linares ended up involved in a see saw battle with the never has been world level Kevin Mitchell (remember rickster stopped him and is hardly a banger!).

Zlaticanin looks solid and Jorge isn't the most dependable in the durability department. Therefore I fancy Zlaticanin to win by KO/TKO in the later rounds

Re: Linares vs Zlaticanin WBC/RING magazine lightweight title

Posted: 28 Nov 2015, 00:24
by Taansend
jujigatame wrote:He's ranked #2 by The Ring, not any alphabet body. People were curious as to how this fight could be for The Ring's championship belt, since I believe that The Ring requires a vacant title to be filled by a fight between #1 and #2, or #1 and #3, and I think most people would not rate Zlaticanin that highly.
Ok got it. Didn't realise it was the Ring ranking you were talking about.

Re: Linares vs Zlaticanin WBC/RING magazine lightweight title

Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 19:52
by davor1
The Revival wrote:Zlaticanin is gonna kick Linares' ass
I think so

Re: Linares vs Zlaticanin WBC/RING magazine lightweight title

Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 19:53
by davor1
Cutman Scabbers wrote:
Bobbyptsd wrote:
expe wrote:How the eff is this for the Ring title?
Who promotes Linares?

Teiken
No. Golden boy

Re: Linares vs Zlaticanin WBC/RING magazine lightweight title

Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 21:02
by Cutman Scabbers
davor1 wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:
Bobbyptsd wrote:
Who promotes Linares?

Teiken
No. Golden boy
They work together, I guess:

http://www.teiken.com/profile/jorge.html