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sucracristo wrote:

kidbazooka1 wrote:Martinez in his prime was a beast.

He beats Canelo easly imo.

the prime martinez who drew with cintron just before losing to williams?
that beast?

Dude, you just dont get it. You dont get it at all. Canelo struggles against speed and movement. What were the 2 strengths of Martinez in his prime? Speed. And movement. Lots of both. And punch output, against a guy like Canelo who fights in judicious spurts. Why did Canelo have such trouble with Floyd and Lara?

SPEED.

MOVEMENT.

And those guys didnt throw with the volume that prime Martinez did either.

I hate fantasy threads.

diddy wrote:Dude, you just dont get it. You dont get it at all.

you don't even get the point of your own threads.
how you say something is going to happen NEVER happens. you are 0 for lifetime.
you don't know anything about this topic, either.

IKSRTFO wrote: It is forgotten that Williams only fought Sergio because people like Cotto was afraid of him. He did call out Cotto immediately after beating Margarito.

cotto was even on the cards the first time v margarito before his face fell apart and
he had to retire, with margarito getting caught with plaster paris wraps and on roids.
margarito knocked out sergio and gave williams all he could handle. williams also
had a harder time with lara than canelo did, and lara wasn't as developed a pro
as when he fought canelo. complain all you want about sergio's draw with cintron
but canelo knocked out cintron in 5 not long after that. you people talking about
these huge differences in class between guys who have faced common opponents
are overly nostalgic. you'll be claiming martinez built the pyramids, soon.
it's not reality.

sucracristo wrote:

diddy wrote:Dude, you just dont get it. You dont get it at all.

you don't even get the point of your own threads.
how you say something is going to happen NEVER happens. you are 0 for lifetime.
you don't know anything about this topic, either.

Am I debating with Corky from McDonalds here? The last fight we talked about I predicted a wide decision win for Canelo over Cotto. Closest card was 9-3. How can I be 0 for my lifetime when I'm 1-1 in the last week and you're 0'fer?

diddy wrote:Am I debating with Corky from McDonalds here?

you, sir, are pathological

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 4#p4284949

diddy wrote:Canelo is gonna win this fight. Easily. I mean ridiculously easily. You don't stand in front of Canelo and have success. Name one guy who has?? Cotto doesn't know how to fight backing up. He's gonna walk right into the fire. Against a bigger, younger, stronger bull of a man. Cotto doesn't have the athleticism, movement or range to trouble Canelo the way Floyd, Lara, Trout did.

I just don't get all the hype unless you're Rican or Mexicano. Anyone with a brain knows how this fight is gonna go. Canelo is gonna hurt Cotto. Bad.

that is what you predicted. this is a board. people can just click over and see what you type.
you don't know your ass from your elbow. cotto moved effectively all night, as he always has,
and had a stiff jab in canelo's face all night. he was never really hurt in the fight, and virtually
EVERYONE EVERYWHERE says those cards were crazy. now you're saying those cards were
accurate? are you high?

sucracristo wrote:

diddy wrote:Am I debating with Corky from McDonalds here?

you, sir, are pathological

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... 4#p4284949

diddy wrote:Canelo is gonna win this fight. Easily. I mean ridiculously easily. You don't stand in front of Canelo and have success. Name one guy who has?? Cotto doesn't know how to fight backing up. He's gonna walk right into the fire. Against a bigger, younger, stronger bull of a man. Cotto doesn't have the athleticism, movement or range to trouble Canelo the way Floyd, Lara, Trout did.

I just don't get all the hype unless you're Rican or Mexicano. Anyone with a brain knows how this fight is gonna go. Canelo is gonna hurt Cotto. Bad.

that is what you predicted. this is a board. people can just click over and see what you type.
you don't know your ass from your elbow. cotto moved effectively all night, as he always has,
and had a stiff jab in canelo's face all night. he was never really hurt in the fight, and virtually
EVERYONE EVERYWHERE says those cards were crazy. now you're saying those cards were
accurate? are you high?

I don't see any knockout predictions. I only see one.

Diddy, Alvarez, decision, wide

118-110
117-111
119-109

The rest is conjecture. Doesn't matter how you get there. Only if you get there. Who was more right? Me or you? Your guy lost according to EVERYONE and you're still talking trash like he won?

canelo has power, martinez had 1 ko power, thats the difference.

If you took the best Canelo to this point and put him in there against a prime Sergio at 160, the results would be very similar to the Chavez Jr fight but without the last round drama. Canelo would not be able to touch Sergio and the punch stat numbers in that fight would be startling.

But in all fairness, comparing one of the greatest Middleweights to a 25 year old boxer yet to hit his prime is kind of silly. Canelo is impressing me more with every fight and we aren't even close to seeing his full potential. Let's compare it again in 10 years and see what we have for apples to apples.