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I don’t see anyone’s problem with this fight, I actually enjoyed it. Watch Klitschko versus Ibragimov, Chambers, Jennings, Thompson, Chagaev or any of his fights over the last 10 years.

He does not take any risks against smaller inferior fighters, did anyone really expect him to go to war with a 6 foot 9 back foot mover?

Moan about his 10 year reign not the night someone put on the perfect display to counteract Vlad’s strengths.

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Kit wrote: ↑17 Jan 2018, 18:58 I don’t see anyone’s problem with this fight, I actually enjoyed it. Watch Klitschko versus Ibragimov, Chambers, Jennings, Thompson, Chagaev or any of his fights over the last 10 years.

He does not take any risks against smaller inferior fighters, did anyone really expect him to go to war with a 6 foot 9 back foot mover?

Moan about his 10 year reign not the night someone put on the perfect display to counteract Vlad’s strengths.

It's fine to moan about Wlad being dull (he was) whilst also thinking the fight was rubbish.

I genuinely can't get my head around people who loved the likes of Naz and Benn in the 90's thinking it was a great fight mind you. I can't imagine anyone becomes a boxing fan watching dross like that.

Fvckin hell I can’t believe people are still trying to belittle Tyson’s brilliant performance that night. At the time I was engulfed by the drama of it, a truly captivating edge of your seat fight.

A football match doesn't have to be a 4-3 goalfest to be entertaining, sometimes a fascinating tactical battle decided by a scruffy late goal resulting in a 1-0 win is equally entertaining. Great fights don’t have to be in the hagler hearns mould to entertain.

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑17 Jan 2018, 20:49 Fvckin hell I can’t believe people are still trying to belittle Tyson’s brilliant performance that night. At the time I was engulfed by the drama of it, a truly captivating edge of your seat fight.

A football match doesn't have to be a 4-3 goalfest to be entertaining, sometimes a fascinating tactical battle decided by a scruffy late goal resulting in a 1-0 win is equally entertaining. Great fights don’t have to be in the hagler hearns mould to entertain.

This chap was on the edge of his seat for hughie vs parker and his heart was pumping with excitement during haye vs valuev. Couldnt get enough of cleverly vs bellew 2 as well mate?

DESPITE low punch stats, I thoroughly enjoyed the fight because it was boxing. The science of hitting without getting hit back was all there. Fury's size, unorthodox approach, and lateral movement in combination with good hand speed made the unbeatable Klitschko look ordinary and human again.

The mere fact that AJ versus an older, slower, inactive Klitschko was a life and death struggle: despite it being fight of the year: speaks volumes as to the pedigree between the two men. Fury is a cut above Joshua in ability.

That being said, AJ is the top heavyweight in the world until Fury comes back and can prove otherwise. If indeed he can come back after 2.5 years and losing 80+ pounds, and beat someone like Joshua it'd only cement him as being truly the dominate heavyweight of our generation. Of course, I suspect many fanboys will automatically turncoat on Joshua IF that happens and say that they were wrong about AJ and say he never was good at all rather than give Fury credit.

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑17 Jan 2018, 20:49 Fvckin hell I can’t believe people are still trying to belittle Tyson’s brilliant performance that night. At the time I was engulfed by the drama of it, a truly captivating edge of your seat fight.

A football match doesn't have to be a 4-3 goalfest to be entertaining, sometimes a fascinating tactical battle decided by a scruffy late goal resulting in a 1-0 win is equally entertaining. Great fights don’t have to be in the hagler hearns mould to entertain.

I feel like it was more comparable to a football match which is massive on paper with a live underdog, (say, Germany v Belgium in a World Cup final), and you spend ages waiting the quality to show.

But in the end it never does and the ball bounces in off a Belgian players arse to see them win 1-0.

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑17 Jan 2018, 20:49 Fvckin hell I can’t believe people are still trying to belittle Tyson’s brilliant performance that night. At the time I was engulfed by the drama of it, a truly captivating edge of your seat fight.

A football match doesn't have to be a 4-3 goalfest to be entertaining, sometimes a fascinating tactical battle decided by a scruffy late goal resulting in a 1-0 win is equally entertaining. Great fights don’t have to be in the hagler hearns mould to entertain.

It'll never be anything except a performance to belittle. It's the worst fight of all time.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑17 Jan 2018, 18:23 Putting punch stats to one side temporarily, I dare anyone to watch this clip and be sorry that Wlad lost. Fvcking appalling behaviour from the ‘gentleman’ boxer:

Dirty barsteward

thats just wlad being 'crafty'

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 02:50

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑17 Jan 2018, 20:49 Fvckin hell I can’t believe people are still trying to belittle Tyson’s brilliant performance that night. At the time I was engulfed by the drama of it, a truly captivating edge of your seat fight.

A football match doesn't have to be a 4-3 goalfest to be entertaining, sometimes a fascinating tactical battle decided by a scruffy late goal resulting in a 1-0 win is equally entertaining. Great fights don’t have to be in the hagler hearns mould to entertain.

It'll never be anything except a performance to belittle. It's the worst fight of all time.

You’re wrong on both counts.

Whether you or I found it entertaining or not is irrelevant, tyson’s performance was spot on. He went there to win the fight not entertain tv viewers.

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 07:05

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 02:50

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑17 Jan 2018, 20:49 Fvckin hell I can’t believe people are still trying to belittle Tyson’s brilliant performance that night. At the time I was engulfed by the drama of it, a truly captivating edge of your seat fight.

A football match doesn't have to be a 4-3 goalfest to be entertaining, sometimes a fascinating tactical battle decided by a scruffy late goal resulting in a 1-0 win is equally entertaining. Great fights don’t have to be in the hagler hearns mould to entertain.

It'll never be anything except a performance to belittle. It's the worst fight of all time.

You’re wrong on both counts.

Whether you or I found it entertaining or not is irrelevant, tyson’s performance was spot on. He went there to win the fight not entertain tv viewers.

The entire point being discussed is the entertainment factor though.

It's the Allardyce football point. He'd say he goes out to get results. Fans say football played ultra defensively with no shots on target and an aim to stifle the life out of a match is boring.

So where was Wlads powerpunches? The one he knocked AJ down with? Was he really that frozen he couldn't throw any? It wasn't his first title fight!

dirk2686 wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 07:34

The entire point being discussed is the entertainment factor though.

It's the Allardyce football point. He'd say he goes out to get results. Fans say football played ultra defensively with no shots on target and an aim to stifle the life out of a match is boring.

The point of the thread is punch stats and for me an entertaining fight isn't solely about punches thrown

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 10:26

dirk2686 wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 07:34

The entire point being discussed is the entertainment factor though.

It's the Allardyce football point. He'd say he goes out to get results. Fans say football played ultra defensively with no shots on target and an aim to stifle the life out of a match is boring.

The point of the thread is punch stats and for me an entertaining fight isn't solely about punches thrown

True - but let's face it. On the whole people sign up to watch action, not a lack of action whilst waiting for some potential action to materialise which never does.

dirk2686 wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 11:22

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 10:26

dirk2686 wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 07:34

The entire point being discussed is the entertainment factor though.

It's the Allardyce football point. He'd say he goes out to get results. Fans say football played ultra defensively with no shots on target and an aim to stifle the life out of a match is boring.

The point of the thread is punch stats and for me an entertaining fight isn't solely about punches thrown

True - but let's face it. On the whole people sign up to watch action, not a lack of action whilst waiting for some potential action to materialise which never does.

If it was a couple of random boxers, I probably wouldn't have found it so enjoyable. But it was the underdog most people wrote off ending the reign of a legend, that alone made it exciting.

Worst fight of all time is just silly, most cards you watch have atleast one low action fight or one sided snorefest, and It's not close to the farces like Haye-Harrison, or Charles Martin's epic victory. Plus Fury's tricks have a bit of entertainment value.

it was awful, though still better than fury vs chisora 2

oh but look at me, im so clever because i enjoy fiddle feint fests and others dont

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 07:05

gilgamesh wrote: ↑18 Jan 2018, 02:50

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑17 Jan 2018, 20:49 Fvckin hell I can’t believe people are still trying to belittle Tyson’s brilliant performance that night. At the time I was engulfed by the drama of it, a truly captivating edge of your seat fight.

A football match doesn't have to be a 4-3 goalfest to be entertaining, sometimes a fascinating tactical battle decided by a scruffy late goal resulting in a 1-0 win is equally entertaining. Great fights don’t have to be in the hagler hearns mould to entertain.

It'll never be anything except a performance to belittle. It's the worst fight of all time.

You’re wrong on both counts.

Whether you or I found it entertaining or not is irrelevant, tyson’s performance was spot on. He went there to win the fight not entertain tv viewers.

I've never said he didn't win. I said it wasn't a fight. It was a staring contest, and it lowered both fighters.