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Re: What was the main reason Tyson Fury was able to beat Wladimir Klitschko?
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 12:20
by jamesmcdonnell
Tanzio wrote:SNG wrote:I don't see how Klitschko's age comes into it. Tyson didn't fight at a pace that would trouble Wlad, or use a game plan that took his age into concern. Look at the punch stats, Wlad was made to be apprehensive by Fury. I don't remember the round but there was a point where Wlad threw the right and stopped it short and withdrew it, he was simply unsure of himself, and that isn't age, Fury did that by standing off and making Wlad be the one to initiate.
I'm not picking either of those choices.
Actually, that is exactly what happens when you cannot pull the trigger any longer. The comparison to SSM v FMJ was accurate. You lose a percentage of your reflexes as you age which will generally lead to second guessing yourself. Combine that with WKlit's keen awareness of his chin issues and you have the ingredients that Fury successfully cooked the W with.
Age had a lot to do with the outcome.
I'd agree with this. Credit to Fury and especially his uncle for coming up with that gameplan, which exploited both Wlad's inherent weaknesses (cautious, rather gunshy, and very robotic and infexlible), and the fact that at almost 40, he was going to struggle against a faster of foot moving target.
Part of the reason that Fury himself landed so little, was that he couldn't risk standing still for too long, in case Wlad landed with something big. I honestly believe that had he stood still more, Wlad would have started clipping him, and it wouldn't take many of those piledriver jabs to make Fury wobble. He fought the right fight. Could maybe have thrown more jabs from range, but overall, very clever tactics.
Re: What was the main reason Tyson Fury was able to beat Wladimir Klitschko?
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 13:26
by Ilya Muromets
The fight was postponed because Wlad was injured. What was that injury? Perhaps that was the reason for his very strange lack of performance.
Re: What was the main reason Tyson Fury was able to beat Wladimir Klitschko?
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 23:16
by Redback Rasta
Because Wlad couldn't land punches >>>

Re: What was the main reason Tyson Fury was able to beat Wladimir Klitschko?
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 23:20
by gilgamesh
The poll, and nobody else in the world seems to have noticed the real reason. Because Wlad didn't fight. That's why he lost. He didn't fight. He didn't try. He stood there staring at an open target and decided "meh I'd rather just stand here like a dumbass instead of punch in a fight", and lost.
Re: What was the main reason Tyson Fury was able to beat Wladimir Klitschko?
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 23:31
by Redback Rasta
The Revival wrote:The poll, and nobody else in the world seems to have noticed the real reason. Because Wlad didn't fight. That's why he lost. He didn't fight. He didn't try. He stood there staring at an open target and decided "meh I'd rather just stand here like a dumbass instead of punch in a fight", and lost.
Landing 4 punches per round for 12 rounds isn't going to win you too many fights.
Re: What was the main reason Tyson Fury was able to beat Wladimir Klitschko?
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 23:32
by gilgamesh
Redback Rasta wrote:The Revival wrote:The poll, and nobody else in the world seems to have noticed the real reason. Because Wlad didn't fight. That's why he lost. He didn't fight. He didn't try. He stood there staring at an open target and decided "meh I'd rather just stand here like a dumbass instead of punch in a fight", and lost.
Landing 4 punches per round for 12 rounds isn't going to win you too many fights.
What did he throw per round? 8? 10? Couldn't have been many
Compubox probably counted several punches thrown when he was just moving his arm.
Re: What was the main reason Tyson Fury was able to beat Wladimir Klitschko?
Posted: 02 Dec 2015, 23:38
by Redback Rasta
The Revival wrote:Redback Rasta wrote:The Revival wrote:The poll, and nobody else in the world seems to have noticed the real reason. Because Wlad didn't fight. That's why he lost. He didn't fight. He didn't try. He stood there staring at an open target and decided "meh I'd rather just stand here like a dumbass instead of punch in a fight", and lost.
Landing 4 punches per round for 12 rounds isn't going to win you too many fights.
What did he throw per round? 8? 10? Couldn't have been many
Compubox probably counted several punches thrown when he was just moving his arm.
The CompuBox figures are posted above. They show Wlad threw on average 19 punched per round, and landed on average 4 per round.
Re: What was the main reason Tyson Fury was able to beat Wladimir Klitschko?
Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 00:03
by gilgamesh
Redback Rasta wrote:The Revival wrote:Redback Rasta wrote:
Landing 4 punches per round for 12 rounds isn't going to win you too many fights.
What did he throw per round? 8? 10? Couldn't have been many
Compubox probably counted several punches thrown when he was just moving his arm.
The CompuBox figures are posted above. They show Wlad threw on average 19 punched per round, and landed on average 4 per round.
Oh wow...19? Well hell I was wrong. He was working his ass off in there

Re: What was the main reason Tyson Fury was able to beat Wladimir Klitschko?
Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 00:24
by badkatt
feints and headmovement and moving around the ring so wlad had to constantly reset ....and the big one bending at the waste
Re: What was the main reason Tyson Fury was able to beat Wladimir Klitschko?
Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 00:26
by Ilya Muromets
"Compubox probably counted several punches thrown when he was just moving his arm."
I don't trust Compubox numbers. If I rewatch the fight I might count it myself.
Re: What was the main reason Tyson Fury was able to beat Wladimir Klitschko?
Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 00:27
by Ilya Muromets
badkatt wrote:feints and headmovement and moving around the ring so wlad had to constantly reset ....and the big one bending at the waste
Yes, Fury was super slick. I saw how much improved he was in his last fight vs. Chisora, but I didn't expect this. Actually, yes, that was the very impression I got while watching the fight, just what you said.
Re: What was the main reason Tyson Fury was able to beat Wladimir Klitschko?
Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 00:28
by badkatt
x2x wrote:badkatt wrote:feints and headmovement and moving around the ring so wlad had to constantly reset ....and the big one bending at the waste
Yes, Fury was super slick. I saw how much improved he was in his last fight vs. Chisora, but I didn't expect this. Actually, yes, that was the very impression I got while watching the fight, just what you said.
yup ....

Re: What was the main reason Tyson Fury was able to beat Wladimir Klitschko?
Posted: 03 Dec 2015, 00:49
by Tony1244
Redback Rasta wrote:Because Wlad couldn't land punches >>>

At least they all lost !