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Grailer wrote:I figure due to it's success we will see

Creed 2 next year

The rematch where this time he wins . His girl friend gets sick
and hinders training . basically Rocky 2 but with rocky as micky
and Creed as Rocky lol

Thanks for giving away the end of the movie, mate!!

sucracristo wrote:

Deadendgeneration wrote:I was thinking of dragging a lady friend.

not sure about going to see it or that your friend is a lady?

Must have been some subconscious workings in choosing dragging rather than taking.

It seems like the sequel will have Adonis (Creed's son) fight Danny Wheeler (Andre Ward) for the championship because Bellew's character goes to prison.

RScarf1 wrote:It seems like the sequel will have Adonis (Creed's son) fight Danny Wheeler (Andre Ward) for the championship because Bellew's character goes to prison.

Maybe Creed goes to Bellow's Prison to fight him inside the walls. Creed trains in a Prison like atmosphere. They rent Alcatraz to train Creed.

Seen Creed last night.

Man... it SUCKED.

ever since Rocky 4 Stallone has fell for the same trap every time with the last 3 stinkers (5, balboa, Creed) of jumping on modern day trends and gimmicks.

5 was filled with garbage rap music, Rocky's went broke and even feautured a Don King rip off.... because that was the thing in 1990, corrupt promoters, washed up financially ruined fighters, kids in leather jackets and MC Hammer.

It's 2015 now though, so being authentic means mad ghetto-ish. Creed's son, the nain character is a young angry ghetto street kid in and out of "juvey". Yawn. Has a stripper girlfriend with braided hair and has dialogue like "You gots ta be one hundrid wid me doe!". Which i eventually figured meant "you need to be 100% honest".

They fell for the same crap with Balboa. What i always loved about the Rocky films was the (rather predictable) story arc that a new bad guy would come along. Apollo, mr.T, Drago... each one bigger, badder, more formidable than the last but ofcourse Rocky, the underdog, must find it within himself through sheer will and guts to overcome them and reign supreme. With Balboa they drafted in Tarver. Because a stereo typical boxing champion now is an illiterate ghetto-rat with flash cars and a possie of rappers. Stallone burned his own formula in an attempt to legitimize Rocky with some realism but that was never his bag.

Another example of falling for modern gimmicks... each of Creeds opponents has a "p4p" ranking. When they first come on screen the director freezeframes them and displays a 'tale of tape' graphic, showing their p4p ranking. Tony Bellew is p4p no.1, Andre Ward is p4p no.2, Gabe Rosado is like 10 or something.... it's laughable. Where were these 'p4p' rankings in the first 6 movies?? Stallone falling for yet another gimmick because p4p rankings are all the rage right now.

In terms of the actual story, bored the life out of me. The running theme is the kid coming to terms with who his father was and if he needs to create his own legacy or wear his father's name with pride. He gets a title shot at Bellew after just 1 fight because of his name (Bellews promoter thinks this will sell). Rocky 1 anyone??

Stallone himself has cancer and undergoes chemo while Creed trains. The infamous Rocky training montage is set in the hospital. The kid does pressups in the hospital ward and runs up and down the stairs.... you couldn't make this shit up. The montage is capped off with Creed running through the streets to a ghetto mash up of Bill Conti's soundtrack, while his hoodlum friends follow him on mopeds. When he reaches the hospital his friends circle him on their mopeds doing wheelies (on the back wheel). Was really similar to a scene in the Lion King actually when Simba is born.

Bellew can't act and wasn't even in shape. Carl Weathers, Mr.T and Dolph Lungren are actors yet they were in tremendous shape. Bellew is actual a boxer and he was a fat flabby mess.

Garbage. Give it a miss.

I've watched it and it is average at best.

It's quite ironic that they have Tony Bellew's character fighting someone called Adonis!

Poor Tony must have been lost for words for once in his life!

diddy wrote:The end fight in Balboa was hands down the worst of the series. It was terrible to watch and really hurt the movie. Rocky fights arent meant to blend with realism. The problem with filming that was it wasnt done in a green room like the other ring fights were. It was filmed between fights during a Hopkins-Taylor PPV card. They only had 45 mins to film it all. It was rushed. And that's why it turned into the crap you saw.

I wouldn't call it crap. Stallone was right in a sense. The films from part 2 through part 4 were unrealistic to say the least. Nobody, not even Tex Cobb, could take the sort of punishment that Rocky Balboa did in those films. It was more than cartoonish. When do you ever see heavyweights throwing over a hundred power punches a round, and someone not go down? I liked the fight in ROCKY BALBOA, although I will say blending in cuts from "fights" from the previous films in the promos for his fight with Mason Dixon.... made Tarver's "highlight reel" look incredibly boring, and made you think HBO had to be a low level production team in comparison to the up close and personal action packed shots that Rocky did.

I haven't seen CREED, but I will eventually. I will keep an open mind, and hope that the characters in the hand of a fresh new director will add some extra "umph" to the series, because no disrespect to Stallone or the first Rocky director, the films seemed to lack motivation or meaning near the end. It was becoming a cliche. Then again, most boxing films are plagued with cliches. That's why for my money "Fat City" is probably the best boxing film there was, but then again it was in the hands of one of the greatest directors in movie history who shifted the focus from boxing to the meager existence of boxers.