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Finally got to see the fight.
Joshua needs more experience before hitting the upper echelon of the division.
He may still be the future of the division.
But the future is not now. He is a solid prospect who I look forward to seeing develop over the next 2 or 3 years

All I am going to say is this.

I am not certain that if Fury, Wilder, or even Wlad get hit with the shots Joshua took in rd 2 that they stay upright.

Joshua got hurt at least 3 times by a guy with legit one punch power.

And not only did he not go down but reacted the right way.

He fought back. He hurt Whyte BACK.

That's what fighters do...that's how champions are forged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8A_Qfv6ZPA

Saw some highlights.
Yesterday I could only get a written synopsis by rounds.
They made it sound like Joshua was really hurt.
Joshua got nailed but took the punches well.
Still high on Joshua, maybe more so in some ways.

Tony1244 wrote:Saw some highlights.
Yesterday I could only get a written synopsis by rounds.
They made it sound like Joshua was really hurt.
Joshua got nailed but took the punches well.
Still high on Joshua, maybe more so in some ways.

Check the link in my last post, Tony

It was good and bad for Joshua. On plus side his chin was well and truly tested and he got some much needed rounds under his belt. On the minus side he got drawn into the fight Whyte wanted and at times was just wide open.
For my money he could potentially take on and beat some of the top HWs right now, but given last nights performance that would be very risky. Better to take another 4 or 5 fights, work on using his jab rather than mixing it up, improving his stamina and fighting in a more controlled manner.
Whyte to me looks like he could be a very solid Dereck Chisora replacement. He took some monstrous shots, but ultimately he was overpowered. Despite the loss I think his stock rose a fair bit. Given the now splintered nature of the HW championship it's not impossible that 12 to 18 months could see Whyte pushing for a shot too.
With Fury and (possibly) Haye back in the mix too these are unprecedented times for British HW boxing.

Joshua is clearly not ready for Fury. You can ruin a prospect by moving him too fast. He needs to fight a guy like Malik Scott next who is borderline top 15, can give rounds and will crumple when hit hard.

marvelous marv wrote:Joshua is clearly not ready for Fury. You can ruin a prospect by moving him too fast. He needs to fight a guy like Malik Scott next who is borderline top 15, can give rounds and will crumple when hit hard.

Disagree.

He beats Fury anytime they fight.

The longer Tyson avoids him, the worse the beating will be.

I can envisage Anthony Joshua fighting Fury, but currently Hughie and not Tyson as you have another unbeaten heavyweight who is the similar size to big Josh and will want a crack at the British title. Chisora would also a good barometer fight to see how Josh is coming along too.

Two months ago: "Tyson Fury got dropped by Steve Cunningham, a cruiserweight! He can't beat Wladimir Klitschko!"

Today: "Anthony Joshua had a tough fight with an undefeated prospect! He can't beat Tyson Fury!"

People never learn.

Just got to see this fight and it's the first time i've gotten to get a good look at Joshua. I'm VERY impressed with the kid. Heck, I was pretty darn impressed with Whyte as well to be quite honest. The talent accumulating in the heavyweight division right now is very exciting and it's about time.

Is Joshua ready? I think he'd compete with any heavyweight on earth with that talent i just saw but i'd definitely not rush things. This fight was his first tester and he dug in after getting buzzed to finish of a very dangerous fighter without showing any signs of fading that i could see. This is the type of fight you pray that your boxer gets a chance to experience at this stage in a young career. He got hurt and fought out of it...check that one off the list. He fought late into a fight without showing fatigue...check. He expended a ton of energy in the first round on a hurt opponent and didn't punch himself out of the fight...check. He fought on a big stage and didn't cower from the bright lights...check. He learned some patience and got the guy out of there when he had him hurt...Check.

Invaluable experience for Joshua IMO. I do agree with Paulie that Joshua needs to establish a stay busy jab and vary his power punches but it looked like he started doing it late in this one. I don't care about him getting buzzed. Doesn't mean he's soft i don't think. He was in there with a darn good boxer. I'm pumped about this kid.

zorndeslammes wrote:Two months ago: "Tyson Fury got dropped by Steve Cunningham, a cruiserweight! He can't beat Wladimir Klitschko!"

Today: "Anthony Joshua had a tough fight with an undefeated prospect! He can't beat Tyson Fury!"

People never learn.

I was one of those folks saying Tyson got dropped by a cruiser.

Never figured Fury would come in with the perfect gameplan.

And as good as it was, it depended A LOT on Wlad's bad habits,
ones he could have and should have corrected midfight.

It won't work twice so Peter better have something new for his nephew.

I am also one of those who think Joshua has enough RIGHT NOW to beat Fury.

That is one of the things that makes our sport the great thing is:

All of your logical calculations and probabilities can be erased at any time by one well placed punch!

First round Joshua looked good but faded in the second and third though not to the point of actually losing both on the cards.
Joshua has natural power and although there was evidence of effective body shots his primary target was upstairs.
His left hook could be better and I'm not undermining it I just hoped to see more than a preview.
When Joshua got caught he was absent anywhere between 1-10 seconds maybe slightly shorter, it caught him good yet he does appear aware of any misgivings he may have in reflection.
They will probably throw 3-4 boxers at him with at least one being reasonably strong to test him as well as maintain his credibility in the division for the foreseeable future .

From a promotional point of view and for AJ himself he needs another 2-3 fights before Fury. Why not match him with Hughie Fury I wouldnt have an issue with that fight right now for AJ. Winning that sets up the Tyson 'revenge' fight :-)

sweetviolenturge wrote:AJ's got some work to do, but going off what I saw today & in his previous 14 fights, I think he'd knock Fury out right now. No problem.
IMO Fury doesn't have enough fire power to keep Joshua from getting inside his reach & once he does that I think he smashes Fury to bits.
Honestly, I'm picking Klitschko to reclaim his titles from Fury if he's got anything left at all, but should Fury manage to keep the title then he'd better negotiate for the biggest possible payday that he can get to meet AJ. Cause that will be the end of him.

AJ vs Furry would be great. But now AJ's Next task is Warrington i think? When did Joshua vs Warrington taking place. Anyone knows or not?

I really like the talk of AJ facing Chisora next.
It's the perfect fight for him right now. He's a ranked contender, a legitimate step up, Fury JUST got through with him in their rematch, so he makes for a perfect "comparison fight" & most important of all, he's made to order for Joshua. Seriously. He'll be right there for AJ to hit & judging by the way that he was bowled over in relatively short order by the last true puncher he faced in Haye, I think he'll be belted out inside three or four rounds. Which will go a long ways toward further fueling a rivalry with Fury.
Could I be selling Chisora short & could he be a more dangerous opponent for AJ than I'm giving him credit for?
Sure, perhaps. But I don't think so. But plenty of folks WILL believe so, meaning that it will garner a lot of interest. Which will translate into some big gate receipts & television ratings. Who knows? With any luck, the US networks will be interested enough to purchase the rights to televise it over here.

The best fight next for AJ would be
Joseph Parker , he is ranked 10 on boxrec

a win against Parker would make AJ a legit top 10 fighter

And Parker would crumble under AJ's amazing speed
and power using his relentless footwork and stamina
or even outbox the shorter weaker Parker.

A good Pay per view fight imo and less risk than Whyte
who hits harder than Parker

Grailer wrote:The best fight next for AJ would be
Joseph Parker , he is ranked 10 on boxrec

a win against Parker would make AJ a legit top 10 fighter

And Parker would crumble under AJ's amazing speed
and power using his relentless footwork and stamina
or even outbox the shorter weaker Parker.

A good Pay per view fight imo and less risk than Whyte
who hits harder than Parker

I doubt Parker is on the radar. Whilst it made sense for Whyte to fight Joshua -- domestic rivalry, history, bad blood and as a result highly marketable -- Parker is being groomed for a title shot sooner rather than later. So I don't think Parker needs to take the risk, and vice versa. I doubt the big money is there either, at least not without a more substantial title than the Comonwealth on the line.
It's a good fight, but I can't see it happening before one or both have a world title.

koolkc107 wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:Saw some highlights.
Yesterday I could only get a written synopsis by rounds.
They made it sound like Joshua was really hurt.
Joshua got nailed but took the punches well.
Still high on Joshua, maybe more so in some ways.

Check the link in my last post, Tony

Thanks. Fighters get rocked often by lesser fighters. It's how they respond. Ali got rocked by Bonavena. Wilder got rocked by Molina. Joshua got rocked by Whyte. They all passed those tests with flying colors IMO.

Tony1244 wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:Saw some highlights.
Yesterday I could only get a written synopsis by rounds.
They made it sound like Joshua was really hurt.
Joshua got nailed but took the punches well.
Still high on Joshua, maybe more so in some ways.

Check the link in my last post, Tony

Thanks. Fighters get rocked often by lesser fighters. It's how they respond. Ali got rocked by Bonavena. Wilder got rocked by Molina. Joshua got rocked by Whyte. They all passed those tests with flying colors IMO.

Exactly.

Joshua did that.

And he did it against an undefeated fighter with
enough power to hurt anyone in the division.

Anyone saying it was a disappointing performance just isn't seeing how important it was.

I watched the Joshua-Whyte fight recently and the announcers pretended it was a close fight; it wasn't.

Sure Joshua got nailed a few times. Boxers get hit. But Anthony wasn't hurt at all. Another one sided performance; all Anthony Joshua.

I'd rate AJ the #1 HW prospect in boxing.

Tony1244 wrote:I watched the Joshua-Whyte fight recently and the announcers pretended it was a close fight; it wasn't.

Sure Joshua got nailed a few times. Boxers get hit. But Anthony wasn't hurt at all. Another one sided performance; all Anthony Joshua.

I'd rate AJ the #1 HW prospect in boxing.

He sure looked hurt to me in the second....it's not like he was moments away from being stopped, but he was clearly buzzed IMO.

tiny_acres wrote:Finally got to see the fight.
Joshua needs more experience before hitting the upper echelon of the division.
He may still be the future of the division.
But the future is not now. He is a solid prospect who I look forward to seeing develop over the next 2 or 3 years

He's too good in the limited division to gain much more experience.

crusader wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:I watched the Joshua-Whyte fight recently and the announcers pretended it was a close fight; it wasn't.

Sure Joshua got nailed a few times. Boxers get hit. But Anthony wasn't hurt at all. Another one sided performance; all Anthony Joshua.

I'd rate AJ the #1 HW prospect in boxing.

He sure looked hurt to me in the second....it's not like he was moments away from being stopped, but he was clearly buzzed IMO.

Joshua got nailed but I thought he handled it well. I look at a fighter's legs in a situation like that and AJ seemed to have his "legs under him."

crusader wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:I watched the Joshua-Whyte fight recently and the announcers pretended it was a close fight; it wasn't.

Sure Joshua got nailed a few times. Boxers get hit. But Anthony wasn't hurt at all. Another one sided performance; all Anthony Joshua.

I'd rate AJ the #1 HW prospect in boxing.

He sure looked hurt to me in the second....it's not like he was moments away from being stopped, but he was clearly buzzed IMO.

Well I would have been KOed, but AJ just took it like a beast. So yea, it looked very painfull to me, but it wasn't like I expected AJ to lose on KO at that moment. The fight was much much closer as I expected tough, I really didn't expect Whyte to be this good, but since that fight I really think Whyte is a better boxer as any American out there for example. I hope the winner of Haye/Briggs will fight Whyte.


*edit: I'd also like to see him against Jun Long Zhang, some Chinese guy I've never seen fighting, but shows amazing numbers.

asdfjkl wrote:

crusader wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:I watched the Joshua-Whyte fight recently and the announcers pretended it was a close fight; it wasn't.

Sure Joshua got nailed a few times. Boxers get hit. But Anthony wasn't hurt at all. Another one sided performance; all Anthony Joshua.

I'd rate AJ the #1 HW prospect in boxing.

He sure looked hurt to me in the second....it's not like he was moments away from being stopped, but he was clearly buzzed IMO.

Well I would have been KOed, but AJ just took it like a beast. So yea, it looked very painfull to me, but it wasn't like I expected AJ to lose on KO at that moment. The fight was much much closer as I expected tough, I really didn't expect Whyte to be this good, but since that fight I really think Whyte is a better boxer as any American out there for example. I hope the winner of Haye/Briggs will fight Whyte.


*edit: I'd also like to see him against Jun Long Zhang, some Chinese guy I've never seen fighting, but shows amazing numbers.

I think Whyte could also beat guys like Pulev and possibly Povetkin.