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This might be the most redundant poll in Boxrec history...does anyone genuinely think de Mori stands a chance?

Boxerbeetle wrote:This might be the most redundant poll in Boxrec history...does anyone genuinely think de Mori stands a chance?

Oh definitely... For 5 seconds... Until Haye crosses the ring and bangs him.

reggaereggae wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:This might be the most redundant poll in Boxrec history...does anyone genuinely think de Mori stands a chance?

Oh definitely... For 5 seconds... Until Haye crosses the ring and bangs him.

Pow, right in the kisser.

Two weeks til D day and over 10.000 tickets sold in the first week according to this interview >>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH8_lMbE5U8

Redback Rasta wrote:Two weeks til D day and over 10.000 tickets sold in the first week according to this interview >>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH8_lMbE5U8

With this new marketing ploy of keeping them guessing about telly, I can see this being a total sell out with tickets flying about on StubHub.

mickey1975 wrote:

Redback Rasta wrote:Two weeks til D day and over 10.000 tickets sold in the first week according to this interview >>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH8_lMbE5U8

With this new marketing ploy of keeping them guessing about telly, I can see this being a total sell out with tickets flying about on StubHub.

It's a clever way to promote.

Here in Australia some sporting events of the past would only go to live television IF they sold out.

Redback Rasta wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:

Redback Rasta wrote:Two weeks til D day and over 10.000 tickets sold in the first week according to this interview >>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH8_lMbE5U8

With this new marketing ploy of keeping them guessing about telly, I can see this being a total sell out with tickets flying about on StubHub.

It's a clever way to promote.

Here in Australia some sporting events of the past would only go to live television IF they sold out.

I suppose its easier to market to tv companies if its a sold out event rather than an empty arena...

It's crap. Nobody wants to put it on by the sounds of it or Haye won't go through Camp Eddie.

David Haye vs Mark De Mori to be broadcast by YouTube!? Heavyweight boxing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_j2LOWtrac

I know that on paper this is an 'easy' fight for Haye but he has only fought 15 minutes in the last 53 months.

I think he'll win in 2 or 3 rounds (or whenever he's bet) but who knows. He is 35 now (bloody hell, I remember him as a teen).

Hopefully he wins & so does Chisora next & we have a very interesting few years in the UK Heavyweight division.

Ordinary card just got even more ordinary with the withdrawal of Dib >>>

Haye-De Mori: Chief Support Off After Injury To Dib

The preparations for the comeback of former two-weight world champion David Haye are running far from smoothly –– and that has been further proved by the latest setback suffered to the ‘Haye Day’ promotion.

Haye (26-2, 24 KOs), 35, is set to return to the ring after a three-and-a-half-year hiatus in two weeks’ time, on January 16, at London’s O2 Arena against Australia’s Mark De Mori (30-1-2, 26 KOs) over 12 rounds in a non-title showdown. And while the issue isn’t with the main event, the promotion as a whole is on the back foot before it has even started with a lack of broadcaster and now no chief-supporting contest.

Former IBF world featherweight champion Billy Dib (39-4, 23 KOs) had been appointed as second in command to the Haye-De Mori clash and he was scheduled for a non-title 10-round tussle with former English featherweight title challenger Jamie Speight (13-8, 1 KO). But that has now been scratched after Dib, who announced his withdrawal via social media, pulled out, citing injury. “It is with great regret that I announce I’ve been ruled out of my Jan 16th fight due to an injury I suffered during training camp,” the Australian, 30, wrote on his official Twitter account. “[A] big thanks to all the amazing boxing fans in the UK. God willing I’ll be back soon.” And despite the bad news, opponent Jamie Speight put a positive spin on things, also taking to Twitter to say: “I’m sure me and Billy [sic] can get it on again. [David Haye] can make it happen."

The latest complication with the return of ‘Hayemaker’ leaves the card bare and with a lack of any real quality, boasting an undercard featuring ex-British super middleweight ruler Tony Dodson (31-8-1, 15 KOs), as well as Wadi Camacho, Kay Prospere, Jose Lopes and Josh Kennedy.

http://www.BS.com/haye-de-mori ... dib--99975

Redback Rasta wrote:Ordinary card just got even more ordinary with the withdrawal of Dib >>>

Haye-De Mori: Chief Support Off After Injury To Dib

The preparations for the comeback of former two-weight world champion David Haye are running far from smoothly –– and that has been further proved by the latest setback suffered to the ‘Haye Day’ promotion.

Haye (26-2, 24 KOs), 35, is set to return to the ring after a three-and-a-half-year hiatus in two weeks’ time, on January 16, at London’s O2 Arena against Australia’s Mark De Mori (30-1-2, 26 KOs) over 12 rounds in a non-title showdown. And while the issue isn’t with the main event, the promotion as a whole is on the back foot before it has even started with a lack of broadcaster and now no chief-supporting contest.

Former IBF world featherweight champion Billy Dib (39-4, 23 KOs) had been appointed as second in command to the Haye-De Mori clash and he was scheduled for a non-title 10-round tussle with former English featherweight title challenger Jamie Speight (13-8, 1 KO). But that has now been scratched after Dib, who announced his withdrawal via social media, pulled out, citing injury. “It is with great regret that I announce I’ve been ruled out of my Jan 16th fight due to an injury I suffered during training camp,” the Australian, 30, wrote on his official Twitter account. “[A] big thanks to all the amazing boxing fans in the UK. God willing I’ll be back soon.” And despite the bad news, opponent Jamie Speight put a positive spin on things, also taking to Twitter to say: “I’m sure me and Billy [sic] can get it on again. [David Haye] can make it happen."

The latest complication with the return of ‘Hayemaker’ leaves the card bare and with a lack of any real quality, boasting an undercard featuring ex-British super middleweight ruler Tony Dodson (31-8-1, 15 KOs), as well as Wadi Camacho, Kay Prospere, Jose Lopes and Josh Kennedy.

http://www.BS.com/haye-de-mori ... dib--99975

chances are, if you are buying this card it doesn't hinge on Billy Dib being involved...

The whole thing is just a bit odd.

Just seen a tweet of Shayne Singleton saying that he can't turn the fight down on January 16th never said who his opponent is but looks like he is the replacement for Dib.

Against John O'Donnell.

Boxerbeetle wrote:The whole thing is just a bit odd.

What? A boxer getting injured and pulling out?

I'd say it's odd. YouTube? A stampede for tickets despite nobody talking about it (except us lot, all of whom agree it's a mismatch), the shocking undercard...

I agree, "odd" sums it all up perfectly,i dont know anyone who's arsed at all about this show,Dib was a great fighter a couple of years ago but did anyone really want to see him fight Speight,no disrespect i'd have been backing Jamie all the way but the cards not fitting for a show at the O2

Haye at the York Hall wouldve been the perfect way to ease his way back in,that way at least there would seen to be some clamour for tickets

Has anyone on Boxrec bought tickets?

handsofstone wrote:I agree, "odd" sums it all up perfectly,i dont know anyone who's arsed at all about this show,Dib was a great fighter a couple of years ago but did anyone really want to see him fight Speight,no disrespect i'd have been backing Jamie all the way but the cards not fitting for a show at the O2

Haye at the York Hall wouldve been the perfect way to ease his way back in,that way at least there would seen to be some clamour for tickets

Has anyone on Boxrec bought tickets?

Me. I'm going and can't wait. Bit gutted Billy DIb Is out, because I've always liked him.

handsofstone wrote:I agree, "odd" sums it all up perfectly,i dont know anyone who's arsed at all about this show,Dib was a great fighter a couple of years ago but did anyone really want to see him fight Speight,no disrespect i'd have been backing Jamie all the way but the cards not fitting for a show at the O2

Haye at the York Hall wouldve been the perfect way to ease his way back in,that way at least there would seen to be some clamour for tickets

Has anyone on Boxrec bought tickets?

Agree this is totally odd and just isn't adding up at all. I can see this being a bit embarassing. 1/4 full arena, record low numbers watching on 'TV' or whatever they do with it. It's not been promoted well, it just doesn't make sense.

I agree totally it would be miles better to do it in a small hall, fill somewhere up with a few hundred noisy spectators, couple of British level scraps on the undercard and everyone would go home happy. I think Haye has massively overestimated his current standing and reputation within the sport, which would be typical as he clearly has a massive ego.

I just looked at the undercard! Dreadful. There's a surreal quality to Haye these days and everything he does, an element of 'Spinal Tap' about his interviews and the build up to this fight, even his new haircut. I'm waiting for him to turn round and tell us all it's just been a big joke.

TheCobra wrote:

handsofstone wrote:I agree, "odd" sums it all up perfectly,i dont know anyone who's arsed at all about this show,Dib was a great fighter a couple of years ago but did anyone really want to see him fight Speight,no disrespect i'd have been backing Jamie all the way but the cards not fitting for a show at the O2

Haye at the York Hall wouldve been the perfect way to ease his way back in,that way at least there would seen to be some clamour for tickets

Has anyone on Boxrec bought tickets?

Agree this is totally odd and just isn't adding up at all. I can see this being a bit embarassing. 1/4 full arena, record low numbers watching on 'TV' or whatever they do with it. It's not been promoted well, it just doesn't make sense.

I agree totally it would be miles better to do it in a small hall, fill somewhere up with a few hundred noisy spectators, couple of British level scraps on the undercard and everyone would go home happy. I think Haye has massively overestimated his current standing and reputation within the sport, which would be typical as he clearly has a massive ego.

It could go disastrously wrong, but it's an experiment, a bit of a test and oddly may be a stroke of genius for the bigger game.

They won't spending much on the undercard, indeed the undercard fighters (as is true with most Goodwin/lower level shows) are likely to be required to sell a number of tickets or are on a percentage ticket deal.

I assume Hayemaker are controlling everything so they don't have to pay promoter or manager fees.... Haye's a good name and good at promoting himself in the media.... So will get press and sell tickets. That will attract casuals who only care about his fight and don't give a sh1te about the undercard. He also has lots of celebrity friends and people who will buy the premium tickets. The fact it's on YouTube will in itself gather a lot of PR.

Also, I don't know much about monetising YouTube, but as I understand, may people make advertising money out of YouTube especially if their channel is popular. So Hayemaker may well make additional cash through this medium. (I would be happy if someone can explain how you tubers make cash, as I'm not au fait enough to know )

So my opinion is - if the show sells well enough ticket wise it will be a triumph for Hayemaker. He will keep most of the money, he may well open up a new revenue source / channel (free or budget price for the consumer) that will become the norm and Hayemaker will be regarded as a marketing genius!

Who knows. But anything that benefits the customer and fan has to be welcomed.

reggaereggae wrote:

TheCobra wrote:

handsofstone wrote:I agree, "odd" sums it all up perfectly,i dont know anyone who's arsed at all about this show,Dib was a great fighter a couple of years ago but did anyone really want to see him fight Speight,no disrespect i'd have been backing Jamie all the way but the cards not fitting for a show at the O2

Haye at the York Hall wouldve been the perfect way to ease his way back in,that way at least there would seen to be some clamour for tickets

Has anyone on Boxrec bought tickets?

Agree this is totally odd and just isn't adding up at all. I can see this being a bit embarassing. 1/4 full arena, record low numbers watching on 'TV' or whatever they do with it. It's not been promoted well, it just doesn't make sense.

I agree totally it would be miles better to do it in a small hall, fill somewhere up with a few hundred noisy spectators, couple of British level scraps on the undercard and everyone would go home happy. I think Haye has massively overestimated his current standing and reputation within the sport, which would be typical as he clearly has a massive ego.

It could go disastrously wrong, but it's an experiment, a bit of a test and oddly may be a stroke of genius for the bigger game.

They won't spending much on the undercard, indeed the undercard fighters (as is true with most Goodwin/lower level shows) are likely to be required to sell a number of tickets or are on a percentage ticket deal.

I assume Hayemaker are controlling everything so they don't have to pay promoter or manager fees.... Haye's a good name and good at promoting himself in the media.... So will get press and sell tickets. That will attract casuals who only care about his fight and don't give a sh1te about the undercard. He also has lots of celebrity friends and people who will buy the premium tickets. The fact it's on YouTube will in itself gather a lot of PR.

Also, I don't know much about monetising YouTube, but as I understand, may people make advertising money out of YouTube especially if their channel is popular. So Hayemaker may well make additional cash through this medium. (I would be happy if someone can explain how you tubers make cash, as I'm not au fait enough to know )

So my opinion is - if the show sells well enough ticket wise it will be a triumph for Hayemaker. He will keep most of the money, he may well open up a new revenue source / channel (free or budget price for the consumer) that will become the norm and Hayemaker will be regarded as a marketing genius!

Who knows. But anything that benefits the customer and fan has to be welcomed.

Haye has already agreed his purse with his backers.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

reggaereggae wrote:

TheCobra wrote:
Agree this is totally odd and just isn't adding up at all. I can see this being a bit embarassing. 1/4 full arena, record low numbers watching on 'TV' or whatever they do with it. It's not been promoted well, it just doesn't make sense.

I agree totally it would be miles better to do it in a small hall, fill somewhere up with a few hundred noisy spectators, couple of British level scraps on the undercard and everyone would go home happy. I think Haye has massively overestimated his current standing and reputation within the sport, which would be typical as he clearly has a massive ego.

It could go disastrously wrong, but it's an experiment, a bit of a test and oddly may be a stroke of genius for the bigger game.

They won't spending much on the undercard, indeed the undercard fighters (as is true with most Goodwin/lower level shows) are likely to be required to sell a number of tickets or are on a percentage ticket deal.

I assume Hayemaker are controlling everything so they don't have to pay promoter or manager fees.... Haye's a good name and good at promoting himself in the media.... So will get press and sell tickets. That will attract casuals who only care about his fight and don't give a sh1te about the undercard. He also has lots of celebrity friends and people who will buy the premium tickets. The fact it's on YouTube will in itself gather a lot of PR.

Also, I don't know much about monetising YouTube, but as I understand, may people make advertising money out of YouTube especially if their channel is popular. So Hayemaker may well make additional cash through this medium. (I would be happy if someone can explain how you tubers make cash, as I'm not au fait enough to know )

So my opinion is - if the show sells well enough ticket wise it will be a triumph for Hayemaker. He will keep most of the money, he may well open up a new revenue source / channel (free or budget price for the consumer) that will become the norm and Hayemaker will be regarded as a marketing genius!

Who knows. But anything that benefits the customer and fan has to be welcomed.

Haye has already agreed his purse with his backers.

Who are his backers mate?
Either way it sounds like he's taking no risk

reggaereggae wrote:Who are his backers mate?
Either way it sounds like he's taking no risk

I can't remember their names, but they were the two brothers at the press conference. Haye told them how much he needed for him, the opponent and the undercard and they said yes.

I have a feeling Haye will fight in Dubai at some point.