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Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 04 Jan 2016, 15:57
by psychod1986
The Revival wrote:I don't see Race being much of an Issue in Boxing. This thread and recent comments from one Floyd Mayweather (which I would assume inspired this thread) are more racially motivated than any actions in the Sport itself have been in quite a long while.
And has much as Jim Lampley hates Floyd Mayweather,he never said any racial slurs are comments about him.But some of media always talks bad about him and calls him a coward.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 04 Jan 2016, 16:10
by Impractical Poster
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Freedom2013 wrote:Who the villain is depends upon the character of the boxer.

If a boxer is a woman-beater or a ex-convict braggart, he'll be a villain. If a boxer is a good sportsman and a nice guy who is humble and respectful toward others, most people will like him.

Most people liked Floyd Patterson and were rooting for him against Sonny Liston. It had nothing to do with race.
Yeah right!! When Ali stood against Liston the vast majority of white people hated him because they said "he had a big mouth and they called him the Louisville Lip".

Many racist thinks when a black man has confidence and speak with it that he's arrogant and needs to be humbled because they don't view us as human but when a person who is white does it then he is given a pass as confident (just look at McGregor and Chael Sonnen).

McGregor and Sonnen talked far more trash then Mayweather but they are given a huge pass, not one person hates them the way y'all still speak of Mayweather, case in point here, just read what you wrote above.

Another thing, the white man tends to hold a lifetime grudge and never forgiving black people who have committed crimes even if they don't commit anymore crimes as though they are still a criminal, again, just read what you wrote. Look how they speak of Hopkins, anytime his name is brought up and they are speaking of him the first thing that is brought up is his criminal past, he is a great role model for young people black or white and one who has turned his life around but yet in the eyes of the bigot he is just a criminal.

People who have gone to jail and did their time have paid their debt to society already but bigots and racists never let them live it down.

Racism still exist in boxing because it exist in people in society because they have been taught that way from infancy.
McGregor and Sonnen are horrible examples. Conor has many more haters than fans. So did Sonnen.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 12:35
by Undefeated49-0
Impractical Poster wrote:McGregor and Sonnen are horrible examples. Conor has many more haters than fans. So did Sonnen.
Prove it!! You haven't provided anything of substance, as usual you are just stating BS.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 13:31
by Impractical Poster
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:McGregor and Sonnen are horrible examples. Conor has many more haters than fans. So did Sonnen.
Prove it!! You haven't provided anything of substance, as usual you are just stating BS.
All you have to do is actually follow the sport some to see much hatred there is towards Mcgregor. Sure, he has rabid fans, but he has plenty of haters. And I'm one of them. I guarantee most of the MMA fans on this forum can't stand him. But, he is exciting, and people are always wanting to hear what he has to say next. So, he gets tons of publicity. Apparently you equate publicity to fandom.

Next time, try and do a little research before spouting your ignorance.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Th ... Hate-94333
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2044 ... ersonality
http://prommanow.com/2015/07/17/the-min ... -mcgregor/

And countless forums will show a plethora of McGregor hate...

It just fits your race agenda to believe and spout falsehood about some lack of hate for McGregor.

All this said, I have started to notice some of these haters starting to accept McGregor.... it's a small percentage of once haters though. And I attribute this to McGregor following through with what he says he is going to do. I still want to see this SOB get his clock cleaned. But, thus far he has backed up everything he has said.

Guys like Mayweather, the ones that don't deliver and get all kinds of negative attention outside the ring, have a lot of haters, not cause their race, but because of what I just stated. Mayweather is just having a hard time coming to grips with McGregor's quick rise. But, if he looks a little deeper, as you should, he would realize Conor has his fair share of haters. Even though we all know Mayweather really deserves the hate more for all the BS he has done and not done.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 13:52
by Undefeated49-0
Impractical Poster wrote:All you have to do is actually follow the sport some to see much hatred there is towards Mcgregor. Sure, he has rabid fans, but he has plenty of haters. And I'm one of them. I guarantee most of the MMA fans on this forum can't stand him. But, he is exciting, and people are always wanting to hear what he has to say next. So, he gets tons of publicity. Apparently you equate publicity to fandom.

It fits your race agenda to believe and spout falsehood about the love for McGregor.
It fits your asshole agenda to accuse someone of racism when all i did was make a comparison. He has many fans and the media isn't being critical of him speaking the way he does<<<<this is the part you don't get.

The media crucified Floyd for whatever he said, do you see them doing this to McGregor or how about Sonnen?

Yeah but to you that's just me being racist for making such a comparison though, right d*ckhead??

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 14:01
by Impractical Poster
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:All you have to do is actually follow the sport some to see much hatred there is towards Mcgregor. Sure, he has rabid fans, but he has plenty of haters. And I'm one of them. I guarantee most of the MMA fans on this forum can't stand him. But, he is exciting, and people are always wanting to hear what he has to say next. So, he gets tons of publicity. Apparently you equate publicity to fandom.

It fits your race agenda to believe and spout falsehood about the love for McGregor.
It fits your asshole agenda to accuse someone of racism when all i did was make a comparison. He has many fans and the media isn't being critical of him speaking the way he does<<<<this is the part you don't get.

The media crucified Floyd for whatever he said, do you see them doing this to McGregor or how about Sonnen?

Yeah but to you that's just me being racist for making such a comparison though, right d*ckhead??
I edited my post bud... Thought I'd enlighten you and your ignorant potty mouth. Conor gets plenty of hate. Maybe he should beat some women and get into family disputes as well?

You'll notice some links in my edited post above. I could really care about your opinion as it's not one I hold in any regard, but I just want to set your ignorance straight so people don't buy into your falsehood.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 14:02
by Undefeated49-0
Impractical Poster wrote:I edited my post bud... Thought I'd enlighten you and your ignorant potty mouth. Conor gets plenty of hate. Maybe he should beat some women and get into family disputes as well?
Maybe he should or already has for all we know but edit your post all you want, my point has already been proven. Have a nice day

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 14:03
by Impractical Poster
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:I edited my post bud... Thought I'd enlighten you and your ignorant potty mouth. Conor gets plenty of hate. Maybe he should beat some women and get into family disputes as well?
my point has already been proven.
Your ignorance and anger issues?

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 17:53
by Undefeated49-0
Impractical Poster wrote:Your ignorance and anger issues?
Yeah I'm so ignorant and sooooo angry, I forgot you lived with me all my life and know me oh so well. :roll:

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 18:02
by Impractical Poster
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:Your ignorance and anger issues?
Yeah I'm so ignorant and sooooo angry, I forgot you lived with me all my life and know me oh so well. :roll:
It's not too difficult to figure out. You've made an enemy out of pretty much every regular poster on the forum. You've got issues.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 18:09
by Undefeated49-0
Impractical Poster wrote:It's not too difficult to figure out. You've made an enemy out of pretty much every regular poster on the forum. You've got issues.
Yeah I made an enemy because I tell the truth and don't side with you guys. Too bad you're all the same type of lame, otherwise you'd have b@ll$ enough to be your own man instead of just being liked and popular.

I'm not here to win a popularity contest or get anyone here to like me, personally i don't care, I have a family and kids who give me more than enough love.

Maybe one day you will get the same and not worry about some guy sitting behind some computer typing on a forum liking you.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 18:22
by Impractical Poster
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:It's not too difficult to figure out. You've made an enemy out of pretty much every regular poster on the forum. You've got issues.
Yeah I made an enemy because I tell the truth and don't side with you guys. Too bad you're all the same type of lame, otherwise you'd have b@ll$ enough to be your own man instead of just being liked and popular.

I'm not here to win a popularity contest or get anyone here to like me, personally i don't care, I have a family and kids who give me more than enough love.

Maybe one day you will get the same and not worry about some guy sitting behind some computer typing on a forum liking you.
I must have struck a chord.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 18:24
by Undefeated49-0
Impractical Poster wrote:I must have struck a chord.
No, remember you know me so well that you struck the entire piano. Does that make you feel better? Why are you TROLLING me??

What is your obsession? I came here to talk about boxing and all I have is you following me from thread to thread just to hurl insults and somehow believe in your mind that you're my conscience, I'm a Black Supremacist and you can predict my next movement.

I came here to talk boxing, if you want to do this then PM so you can stop TROLLING up the forum with your make believe garbage.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 18:34
by Impractical Poster
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:I must have struck a chord.
No, remember you know me so well that you struck the entire piano. Does that make you feel better? Why are you TROLLING me??

What is your obsession? I came here to talk about boxing and all I have is you following me from thread to thread just to hurl insults and somehow believe in your mind that you're my conscience, I'm a Black Supremacist and you can predict my next movement.

I came here to talk boxing, if you want to do this then PM so you can stop TROLLING up the forum with your make believe garbage.
Relax dude.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 18:41
by AngryGoon38
psychod1986 wrote:Every time a different type of races talk about boxing,they like to play the race card.Where theres a black man versus a white man or a black man versus another race,the black guy is considered the villian & the white guy is the hero.Boxing shouldn't be based on what race you are, but your ability & skills.


I've always wondered why in cartoons they always have to have the cat as the villian and the mouse as the hero. Damn stupid stinken hollyweird with its backwards psychology !

This has always annoyed and bewildered me. I mean,in actual reality,those damn stinken mice are the real villians ! Damn no good stinken good for nothing vermin,and they're portrayed as the hero or the poor innocent victim being picked on by those bad no good kitty cats. : /

Very dispicable and disgustable of those hollyweird cartoonists ! Cats are Cool and they make nice affectionate pets and they'e the real good guys ! Keeping mice away and destroying them no good vermin critters is a good thing !

:geek:

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 18:52
by Tony1244
AngryGoon38 wrote:
psychod1986 wrote:Every time a different type of races talk about boxing,they like to play the race card.Where theres a black man versus a white man or a black man versus another race,the black guy is considered the villian & the white guy is the hero.Boxing shouldn't be based on what race you are, but your ability & skills.


I've always wondered why in cartoons they always have to have the cat as the villian and the mouse as the hero. Damn stupid stinken hollyweird with its backwards psychology !

This has always annoyed and bewildered me. I mean,in actual reality,those damn stinken mice are the real villians ! Damn no good stinken good for nothing vermin,and they're portrayed as the hero or the poor innocent victim being picked on by those bad no good kitty cats. : /

Very dispicable and disgustable of those hollyweird cartoonists ! Cats are Cool and they make nice affectionate pets and they'e the real good guys ! Keeping mice away and destroying them no good vermin critters is a good thing !

:geek:

Funny :lol:

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 19:38
by Bricks
psychod1986 wrote:A man i grew up with mexicans I also had mexican friends as well,I never said mexicans where racist never.I also in high school one of my best friends where white,I even slept in the same bed with a white women,so how can i be racist.All im saying is that race shouldn't be a big issue in boxing today,i like boxers of all races.
You say u slept in a bed with a white woman? Was it during a robbery? You seduced her? You paid for her? She kidnapped you and forced you to?
You must elaborate my dear fellow or how would we know?

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 13:10
by man
Undefeated49-0 wrote:I'm not here to win a popularity contest or get anyone here to like me
mission accomplished.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 13:11
by Undefeated49-0
man wrote:
Undefeated49-0 wrote:I'm not here to win a popularity contest or get anyone here to like me
mission accomplished.
Thanks for your confirmation, sorry i hurt your butt so much. :TU:

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 13:29
by man
Undefeated49-0 wrote:Thanks for your confirmation, sorry i hurt your butt so much. :TU:
don't be sorry. once guys of your kind
have identified themselves i find them
quite amusing.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 13:39
by Tony1244
verballistic wrote:
Taansend wrote:I'm an immigrant to America. I grew up in a multi cultural city. I'm in a mixed race relationship & my girlfriends parents are also immigrants to this great country. My friends come from all walks of life.

America has a huge race problem. This is not the fault of ANY American alive today, just the result of 400 years of bad things happening. And it's not just about colour. People call others prejudiced for no reason. It's just how it is. You just have to ignore it & just keep being nice to as many people as you can.
Thanks for the input. When did you arrive in the US? Just curious because race relations here were MUCH better in the 1980s, 1990s, early 2000s...after the advances of the Civil Rights movement took hold. The Divider-in-Chief Obama acts like the civil rights movement never happened. Most of my numerous black/Latino friends admit Obama has set race relations back several decades by siding with thugs/gangstas like Michael Brown:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/06/politics/ ... index.html
Four in 10 Americans say race relations in the United States have gotten worse under the nation's first black president, according to a new CNN/ORC poll.

As Barack Obama prepares to mark the Bloody Sunday march's 50th anniversary in Selma, Alabama, 39% of Americans say relations between blacks and whites have worsened since he took office, including 45% of whites and 26% of blacks. Just 15% of Americans say race relations have improved under Obama, while 45% say they have stayed about the same."
A healthy majority of black folks dont relate to the cop-hating thugs of "Black Lives Matter" whom Obama has given undeserved credibility by siding with thugs/gangstas like Michael Brown, who brought his own death on himself:

http://national.suntimes.com/national-w ... ves-matter
"A wide majority of African Americans prefer the term 'all lives matter' to 'black lives matter,' according to a poll from Rasmussen.

Just 31% of black respondents said the phrase 'black lives matter' most closely matches their personal beliefs, while 64% said 'all lives matter' more accurately represents their beliefs."

My vote is that they have stayed about the same. The people who hate Obama often mention the fact he is part black, so it seems like relations have worsened but they really haven't. The same people who hate Obama hate the Kennedys and Clintons and they're white. It's human nature, if you hate someone you bring up who they are. If Sanders wins, you will hear Jewish this and Jewish that. Unfortunately it's just part of human nature.

Glad to hear most blacks prefer "All lives matter." I'm slightly left-of-center but don't take too kindly to Black Lives Matter, Occupy Wall Street, or the right wing ranchers in Oregon.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 15:52
by hurricanemitch14
Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Freedom2013 wrote:Who the villain is depends upon the character of the boxer.

If a boxer is a woman-beater or a ex-convict braggart, he'll be a villain. If a boxer is a good sportsman and a nice guy who is humble and respectful toward others, most people will like him.

Most people liked Floyd Patterson and were rooting for him against Sonny Liston. It had nothing to do with race.
Yeah right!! When Ali stood against Liston the vast majority of white people hated him because they said "he had a big mouth and they called him the Louisville Lip".

Many racist thinks when a black man has confidence and speak with it that he's arrogant and needs to be humbled because they don't view us as human but when a person who is white does it then he is given a pass as confident (just look at McGregor and Chael Sonnen).

McGregor and Sonnen talked far more trash then Mayweather but they are given a huge pass, not one person hates them the way y'all still speak of Mayweather, case in point here, just read what you wrote above.

Another thing, the white man tends to hold a lifetime grudge and never forgiving black people who have committed crimes even if they don't commit anymore crimes as though they are still a criminal, again, just read what you wrote. Look how they speak of Hopkins, anytime his name is brought up and they are speaking of him the first thing that is brought up is his criminal past, he is a great role model for young people black or white and one who has turned his life around but yet in the eyes of the bigot he is just a criminal.

People who have gone to jail and did their time have paid their debt to society already but bigots and racists never let them live it down.

Racism still exist in boxing because it exist in people in society because they have been taught that way from infancy.
Same guy that dogs white fighters on tv and runs his mouth about racism because Philly won't make a statue of him. His Reason??? He stayed out of jail.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 15:57
by Undefeated49-0
hurricanemitch14 wrote:Same guy that dogs white fighters on tv and runs his mouth about racism because Philly won't make a statue of him. His Reason??? He stayed out of jail.

What "white" fighters did he dog??

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 22:39
by hurricanemitch14
Calzaghe and Pavlik...........ill never lose to a white boy.

Could u imagine uproar if Pavlik would have said ill never lose to a black boy. Or he'll beat pacman's yellow ass.

Re: The race card in boxing today

Posted: 10 Jan 2016, 10:16
by Taansend
[quote="verballistic"][/quote]

I arrived in early 1997.

And people blaming Obama for everything under the sun is part of what I'm talking about* (I'm not a fan of either party).

The fact that my short comment brought out a lengthy (including the almighty statistical proof) reply from you blaming Obama for an American problem that has it's roots in the 16th & 17th centuries has me cracking up. Thank you for starting my day off with a smile.

* - I'm not saying YOU dislike Obama because of his colour but there are a LOT of people who do. The only want a White man in the White House.