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Jeff Fenech

elmersalsa wrote:

yancey wrote:

yancey wrote:
It has been a long time since I watched a Griffith fight, but I don't recall him as being a classic brawler.

The great Emile Griffith was a versatile boxer. He could slug it out with the very best or box. He didn't had that punching power.

Versatile Emile Griffith........Well that's the under statement of the year

Baldomino?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:KO% is highly misleading, Pep could punch too. You can't just look at a record and decide someone has no power. Jake decked Robinson.

Excellent points. A good puncher can accentuate his ko percentage by fighting bums, yet a very good puncher might step into the ring against elite opponents who have granite chins and his ko percentage would suffer.

I tend to compare Denotay Wilder to Carl Froch - both men are considered big punchers yet one filled up on defeating a poor standard of opposition, whereas the other fought elite opponents' nearly exclusively.

Great Brawlers who lack power punch

- What immediately sprung to mind for me was Steve Collins. The guy used to get involved in hard-fought brawls and I found his ko percentage (54%) to be astonishingly low for a fighter of his brutality.

greb has to be the big one

bobby chacon was a great brawler - lacked power. what a fighter though!

Chacon was a big puncher.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Chacon was a big puncher.

He really was, he had like 47 kos and shouldnt be in this thread

Greb was clearly not feather fisted either. It was his style. He hit hard enough to rough up many men much bigger than himself.

cfang wrote:Greb was clearly not feather fisted either. It was his style. He hit hard enough to rough up many men much bigger than himself.

but he clearly wasn't a puncher either

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Chacon was a big puncher.

Looked like he was going to knock Little Reds head clean off at some points

Yeah, oddest mention in the thread. I did a top 100 punchers of my lifetime a few years ago(40 yrs) and he was well in there.

How much more did Chacon suffer from hand problems in his later career, Saad?

I don't know of any, I don't know his career other than the fights I've seen and I don't recall commentators mentioning it, but he definitely seems to get more explosive leverage on his shots vs lopez or Olivares or arguello compared with say limon or boza and definitely the later fights like Solis or that fucken weird barnburner against Art Frias, he was definitely pawing with his shots in a manner that reminded me of Calzaghe by then, seems to me.

Albeit he seemed to still hurt pretty much everyone he hit sooner or later in any of the fights I am thinking of, so its kindof a moot point, if he did have bad paws he found a way to hurt guys more than calzaghe did. Seemed to really favour the straight right to the body, although that may be he fought more than his share of fights against lefties

I can't say I know, don't recall hand issues.

campfire wrote:

elmersalsa wrote:

yancey wrote:

The great Emile Griffith was a versatile boxer. He could slug it out with the very best or box. He didn't had that punching power.

Versatile Emile Griffith........Well that's the under statement of the year

Watch his fights. He was a very versatile boxer. He could do it all.