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Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 19:25
by Tarkus
armageto wrote:
Tarkus wrote:Scott and Cunningham fights were very close. Both technically advanced fighters, head and shoulder above Martin. Martin cant box.
Agree they are better technically than Martin, but what about Rossy? Also, none of those three guys in debatable fights has anything close to power.
I dont remember if i have seen Rossy fight. As for power, it aint sht if you cant land it. Plus I doubt Martins power is anything fantastic. So far he has only beaten journeymen. It took Joshua 2 rounds to obliterate Zumbano Love who went all 10 rounds with Martin. I mean yes he has power but its not great enough to overcome his stark technical shortcomings.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 19:50
by armageto
Tarkus wrote:
armageto wrote:
Tarkus wrote:Scott and Cunningham fights were very close. Both technically advanced fighters, head and shoulder above Martin. Martin cant box.
Agree they are better technically than Martin, but what about Rossy? Also, none of those three guys in debatable fights has anything close to power.
I dont remember if i have seen Rossy fight. As for power, it aint sht if you cant land it. Plus I doubt Martins power is anything fantastic. So far he has only beaten journeymen. It took Joshua 2 rounds to obliterate Zumbano Love who went all 10 rounds with Martin. I mean yes he has power but its not great enough to overcome his stark technical shortcomings.
Understandable point, but my outlook on that is Joshua is just a better fighter currently than Martin. Love went 12 with Briggs and 8 with Ruiz in losing decisions. Martin stopped Dawejko who went the distance with Mansour, who was never stopped otherwise. I don't think Martin is the second coming of Foreman power wise, but I think he has enough pop and his skill set is under rated. I also don't think Glaskov is the most elusive guy to hit either.

We'll see in a few hours I guess. I just hope they are some fun fights to watch.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 19:52
by armageto
Tarkus wrote: I dont remember if i have seen Rossy fight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHbiRE0DqPA

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 20:04
by Freedom2013
Undercard results:

Maciej Sulecki defeated the always tough Derrick Findley by TKO 7 and goes to 22-0.

Ukrainian MW Ivan Golub won by KO 1 over Juan Rodriguez Jr and is now 10-0.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 20:25
by Tarkus
armageto wrote:
Tarkus wrote:
armageto wrote:
Agree they are better technically than Martin, but what about Rossy? Also, none of those three guys in debatable fights has anything close to power.
I dont remember if i have seen Rossy fight. As for power, it aint sht if you cant land it. Plus I doubt Martins power is anything fantastic. So far he has only beaten journeymen. It took Joshua 2 rounds to obliterate Zumbano Love who went all 10 rounds with Martin. I mean yes he has power but its not great enough to overcome his stark technical shortcomings.
Understandable point, but my outlook on that is Joshua is just a better fighter currently than Martin. Love went 12 with Briggs and 8 with Ruiz in losing decisions. Martin stopped Dawejko who went the distance with Mansour, who was never stopped otherwise. I don't think Martin is the second coming of Foreman power wise, but I think he has enough pop and his skill set is under rated. I also don't think Glaskov is the most elusive guy to hit either.

We'll see in a few hours I guess. I just hope they are some fun fights to watch.
He could also elevate his game against a better opposition. Martin win is surely welcomed, much attractive style then Glazkov.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 21:06
by Yes We Can
Glazkov's main problem is that he has absolutely zero power, and guys just don't have enough to worry about. they will keep coming forward and throwing because there is no deterrent, and thats why he is awasy going to be ripe for the pickings or in close fights he shouldn't be.

I think this will be incredibly close, I'm just not convinced Martin has enough seasoning to be stepping up to fringe world level yet. Glazkov in a SD type of fight for me.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 21:25
by Ilya Muromets
What time do these fights start? I thought it was 8PM ET, but now it says 10PM ET, unless it's on tape delay in the west.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 21:45
by koolkc107
Taking Martin here within 6

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 22:07
by Tarkus
x2x wrote:What time do these fights start? I thought it was 8PM ET, but now it says 10PM ET, unless it's on tape delay in the west.
starts in 50 min - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLvEtHtCQAc

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 22:41
by Ilya Muromets
Thanks, Tarkus.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:27
by Tarkus
Level difference is alreay visible. Glazkov 2-0

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:31
by Tanzio
Tarkus wrote:Level difference is alreay visible. Glazkov 2-0
So much for the difference in levels :OhYes:

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:33
by Tanzio
Definite knee injury but he is walking off relatively easily.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:33
by Tarkus
Tanzio wrote:
Tarkus wrote:Level difference is alreay visible. Glazkov 2-0
So much for the difference in levels :OhYes:
lol

Not a first time we have seen someone twisting his knee and loose.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:34
by Baby Face Finster
ACL tear for sure. I saw the way his knee buckled.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:34
by koolkc107
I thought Martin was ahead on the cards. Wonder how the judges had it...

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:35
by punchoutsb
Baby Face Finster wrote:ACL tear for sure. I saw the way his knee buckled.
I have a ton of experience working with athletes, and that's exactly what it looks like. Of course you never can tell, but it looked nasty up close.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:35
by Taansend
Tanzio wrote:
Tarkus wrote:Level difference is alreay visible. Glazkov 2-0
So much for the difference in levels :OhYes:
That injury had f*ck all to do with levels.

Best of luck to Martin. He seems like a lovely bloke.

I have no idea how good/bad he is. But I hope he's in the mix for a while :TU:

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:37
by Baby Face Finster
punchoutsb wrote:
Baby Face Finster wrote:ACL tear for sure. I saw the way his knee buckled.
I have a ton of experience working with athletes, and that's exactly what it looks like. Of course you never can tell, but it looked nasty up close.
I've had 2 ACL tears. I could tell by the way his knee buckled and the way he was walking after he got up that it was a tear.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:38
by DieHard24
What a crappy ending. Easiest road to title ever for Martin. Fights no one and his opponent in title fight tears ACL in 3rd..lmaoooo

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:39
by Tanzio
koolkc107 wrote:I thought Martin was ahead on the cards. Wonder how the judges had it...
I had it even through two but Martin had dominated number three up to the stoppage.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:40
by armageto
Tarkus wrote:Level difference is alreay visible. Glazkov 2-0
Disagree on your card, or the level difference for the first two rounds. To each his own sir....

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:41
by DieHard24
Tanzio wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:I thought Martin was ahead on the cards. Wonder how the judges had it...
I had it even through two but Martin had dominated number three up to the stoppage.
Dominated?? come on..he landed a few jabs vs a guy clearly injured

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:42
by Freedom2013
Shouldn't it be a no contest?

Replay showed Martin's punch didn't land.

Re: Glaskov vs Martin

Posted: 16 Jan 2016, 23:42
by Tarkus
Disappointing ending but what can you do these things happen.

So todays heavy weight shit count is 2 out of 2. Let hope the last one provides some entertainment.