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Re: Fury vs Wilder
Posted: 17 Jan 2016, 22:19
by gilgamesh
Fury wins a decision I figure. Both are very flawed and very beatable though. I'd have no major confidence in neither fighter. I'd rather see Fury win I suppose even though I don't like either fighter. Fury at least has the balls to fight decent opposition, and not hide behind his promoter.
Re: Fury vs Wilder
Posted: 17 Jan 2016, 22:20
by gilgamesh
Nightmare Roy wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:Fury bamboozles Wilder to a wide points decision.
This, Wilder has a punchers chance that's it same as Vlad in the rematch IMO.
Wladimir has a better chance in the rematch than Wilder would have I figure. He's a better fighter. He just needs to move his hands and fight this time.
Re: Fury vs Wilder
Posted: 18 Jan 2016, 09:39
by PredatorHayds
The Revival wrote:Nightmare Roy wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:Fury bamboozles Wilder to a wide points decision.
This, Wilder has a punchers chance that's it same as Vlad in the rematch IMO.
Wladimir has a better chance in the rematch than Wilder would have I figure. He's a better fighter. He just needs to move his hands and fight this time.
You'd guess that someone of Wlads ring experience and intelligence would have somehow worked out the puzzle a bit more now.
If fury fights the same as the first fight, unless Wlad has lost it physically I'd expect to see a closer fight.
Re: Fury vs Wilder
Posted: 18 Jan 2016, 09:47
by danamba7
Counter-puncher wrote:For some reason haye-wilder would interest me more....
I think Haye would KO Wilder.
Re: Fury vs Wilder
Posted: 18 Jan 2016, 11:37
by Counter-puncher
danamba7 wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:For some reason haye-wilder would interest me more....
I think Haye would KO Wilder.
i have quite a strong suspicion he might. and that Team Wilder won't go near him for exactly that reason
Re: Fury vs Wilder
Posted: 18 Jan 2016, 15:48
by gilgamesh
PredatorHayds wrote:The Revival wrote:Nightmare Roy wrote:
This, Wilder has a punchers chance that's it same as Vlad in the rematch IMO.
Wladimir has a better chance in the rematch than Wilder would have I figure. He's a better fighter. He just needs to move his hands and fight this time.
You'd guess that someone of Wlads ring experience and intelligence would have somehow worked out the puzzle a bit more now.
If fury fights the same as the first fight, unless Wlad has lost it physically I'd expect to see a closer fight.
He needs to fight closer to the way he fought Mariusz Wach.
Re: Fury vs Wilder
Posted: 18 Jan 2016, 18:07
by dookus
The Revival wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:The Revival wrote:
Wladimir has a better chance in the rematch than Wilder would have I figure. He's a better fighter. He just needs to move his hands and fight this time.
You'd guess that someone of Wlads ring experience and intelligence would have somehow worked out the puzzle a bit more now.
If fury fights the same as the first fight, unless Wlad has lost it physically I'd expect to see a closer fight.
He needs to fight closer to the way he fought Mariusz Wach.
The difference was that Wach couldn't get out of the way of Klitschko's right hand. Fury, on the other hand, saw almost every one coming a mile off.
Re: Fury vs Wilder
Posted: 18 Jan 2016, 22:16
by gilgamesh
dookus wrote:The Revival wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:
You'd guess that someone of Wlads ring experience and intelligence would have somehow worked out the puzzle a bit more now.
If fury fights the same as the first fight, unless Wlad has lost it physically I'd expect to see a closer fight.
He needs to fight closer to the way he fought Mariusz Wach.
The difference was that Wach couldn't get out of the way of Klitschko's right hand. Fury, on the other hand, saw almost every one coming a mile off.
Wlad probably only threw about 15 of 'em the whole damn fight.
Re: Fury vs Wilder
Posted: 19 Jan 2016, 02:40
by ScottDetonator
Fury on points. Wilder's crude swings will make him look amateurish as Fury can pretty easily step off. The only thing to worry about is if Fury went in for a trade off with Wilder, which I'm sure Peter wouldn't allow. Plus, Peter or his dad won't be ringside if the fight is in the US, massive negative for Fury.
Re: Fury vs Wilder
Posted: 19 Jan 2016, 03:53
by coneye
Why on earth would it be the USA, It really would be debatable has to wether or not the money would be better there, and even if it was Tyson is the name here , he is the one who beat Klitchko. Wilder still really has to prove himself at the highest level. Tyson does'nt seem to let the dollar rule his head and it would be more a legacy fight he would already have enough to last him 5 life times with his lifestyle .
Now thats all sumising he can get over Klitchko again ,, I think last time Klitchko had trouble with Tysons size he just was'nt used to fighting a bigger guy who fights tall , he could'nt get his jab off , he could'nt get his distance right , hustling , forward , shuffling the feet forward with head movement , slamming into the body , just was'nt his style he's never had to do it , but if he can adapt and let his hands go , he'll have an early night and put Tyson away ,, he only landed one decent punch and that had Tyson on queer street , if he can land early and put pressure on , its a ko win for him .
But if he has trouble fighting a taller guy again , and cannot or will not change his style ,, its a easier points win for the big fella . And if the big fella can pull it off again , he can dictate , where , when , and how much , because he'll be the man
Re: Fury vs Wilder
Posted: 19 Jan 2016, 09:10
by Flump
Fury inside the schedule. He may not be the biggest puncher but you don't need to be to fill Wilder in. Wilder has a punchers chance for sure but six rounds of raking and Wilder would be ready to go.