Charles Martin (IBF Heavyweight "champion") is the worst titleholder I've ever seen

[Ilya Muromets]

Martin won the baloney belt without landing a single punch!

[Loki]

That's kinda hard on Martin, I don't think he's that bad at all. He does the fundimentals well and has size and power. He was beating Glaskov before knee gave way.

He's certainly not the worst champion. The HW division was crap pre-Tyson post Holmes dominance (everyone seems to forgets that).

John Ruiz, Valuev, Sam Peter, Maskaev IMO were worse champions.

[jas80s]

How much can we know about him at all at this point?

calling him the worst ever is almost as bad as calling him the best ever.

Of course, with all the trinkets out there, it's easier than ever to become a champ so guys in the lower third all time are going to be
seen more often from now on....no news there.

[Bricks]

I cant agree with this thread.martin looks quite decent and could develop in what is still a weak division.

He has some power and athleticism

[Horse]

John Ruiz, Valuev, Sam Peter, Maskaev IMO were worse champions.

At the moment Martin is a worse champion than those fighters.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Ruiz is as accomplished as wlad and would fair well in wlads hugathons. Very close fight.

[Badhusker]

More BS from people that don't seem to want new up and comers be successful. Give him a chance to prove himself. Its not his fault he got a shot at a title and took it. He is a decent fighter, time will tell how good. To say he is the worst ever is a stupid thing to say.

[Rexob]

I feel he maybe a bit unappreciated here ?

[Horse]

I feel he maybe a bit unappreciated here ?

Why should he be appreciated?

On paper he is an awful champion. Perhaps he will go on to prove himself a worthy title holder, but he probably won't.

[Cyclops]

John Ruiz, Valuev, Sam Peter, Maskaev IMO were worse champions.

No they weren't.

[Loki]

John Ruiz, Valuev, Sam Peter, Maskaev IMO were worse champions.

No they weren't.

When I say worse champions, I of course mean potential wise. I think Martin has been lambasted unfairly; there was only one winner against Glaskov pre-ACL rupture.

Taking into consideration what I've seen including tools, skill and boxing IQ (Glaskov has amateur pedigree and Martin was outboxing him) - I think a few people will be surprised where Martin ends up. He's tall and a southpaw plus clearly has pop.

I'll wager he defends his title a few times and I'm confident (only he has a real problem taking a shot) he will be 'potentially' better than all the aforementioned. Cmon, all four were awful.

[Loki]

Ruiz is as accomplished as wlad and would fair well in wlads hugathons. Very close fight.

This idiotic beyond belief. I admit Wladimir and Ruiz held a lot, but this is ridiculous.

I don't remember a memorable title defence Ruiz had or a defence that ended in a KO. His best moment was being starched by Tua in 20 seconds.

[Tony1244]

Ruiz is as accomplished as wlad and would fair well in wlads hugathons. Very close fight.

You're kidding right?

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Ruiz is as accomplished as wlad and would fair well in wlads hugathons. Very close fight.

This idiotic beyond belief. I admit Wladimir and Ruiz held a lot, but this is ridiculous.

I don't remember a memorable title defence Ruiz had or a defence that ended in a KO. His best moment was being starched by Tua in 20 seconds.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Ruiz is as accomplished as wlad and would fair well in wlads hugathons. Very close fight.

You're kidding right?

Nope

[Tony1244]

Ruiz is as accomplished as wlad and would fair well in wlads hugathons. Very close fight.

You're kidding right?

Nope

Both Klitschkos would have put Ruiz to sleep. comparing Ruiz to either Klitschko cannot be taken seriously.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

You're kidding right?

Nope

Both Klitschkos would have put Ruiz to sleep. comparing Ruiz to either Klitschko cannot be taken seriously.

Ruiz is definitely more accomplished than vitali. Not even close.

[Tony1244]

Nope

Both Klitschkos would have put Ruiz to sleep. comparing Ruiz to either Klitschko cannot be taken seriously.

Ruiz is definitely more accomplished than vitali. Not even close.

If you're attempting to write one of the top 10 dumbest statements I have ever read online you have a lot of competition. Having said that you are doing quite well. You're statement is wedged between Israel is an ally of ISIS and Sarah Palin is very smart.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Considering its 100% accurate, that doesn't bode well for your reasoning.

[Tony1244]

Ruiz is as accomplished as wlad and would fair well in wlads hugathons. Very close fight.

This idiotic beyond belief. I admit Wladimir and Ruiz held a lot, but this is ridiculous.

I don't remember a memorable title defence Ruiz had or a defence that ended in a KO. His best moment was being starched by Tua in 20 seconds.

He's trolling, and/or a Ruiz nuthugger.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Neither, he has a better resume than vitali. Beating holyfield alone is greater than anything vitali did.

[jockpunk]

If they would have fought, I have no doubt vitali would have won. That said, if you look at their resumes ruiz has the better scalps. He was much, much better than martin is.

[asdfjkl]

Neither, he has a better resume than vitali. Beating holyfield alone is greater than anything vitali did.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

If they would have fought, I have no doubt vitali would have won. That said, if you look at their resumes ruiz has the better scalps. He was much, much better than martin is.

[Ilya Muromets]

Martin won the baloney belt without landing a single punch!

I wouldn't have used the word "worst" for the title of this thread. I would have said "the most undeserving".