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Freedom2013 wrote:Mike Tyson: Klitschko Affected By Personal Issues

http://www.BS.com/forums/showt ... p?t=700143

That's very old...

asdfjkl wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:Mike Tyson: Klitschko Affected By Personal Issues

http://www.BS.com/forums/showt ... p?t=700143

That's very old...

No, it's from 2016.

Freedom2013 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:Mike Tyson: Klitschko Affected By Personal Issues

http://www.BS.com/forums/showt ... p?t=700143

That's very old...

No, it's from 2016.

Did you know that David Haye made a comeback already?

asdfjkl wrote:Did you know that David Haye made a comeback already?

Fury-Klitschko II is an interesting matchup. I think Fury will likely win, especially with home advantage in Manchester and Klitschko being age 40. But I'm not sure.

Klee Gluckman wrote:Mike Tyson cannot of meant that, he must have been joking there is no way he rates Fury ahead of Lewis or Holyfield. He knows too much about boxing to say this, unless he was being encouraged to talk it up because Mike has to know that Fury is nowhere near the best heavyweight since him.

I NEVER trust fighter's rankings of other fighters. Its a popularity contest. It's like asking a girl if another girl is "hot." If she likes her the answer is "yes" if she doesn't like her the answer is "no."

Freedom2013 wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:Did you know that David Haye made a comeback already?

Fury-Klitschko II is an interesting matchup. I think Fury will likely win, especially with home advantage in Manchester and Klitschko being age 40. But I'm not sure.

Yea, especially since Klitschko is affected with personal issues.

Fury is +250 to win by Decision again. Someone please talk me out of dropping a missile on this? What is really going to change this time around? Fury is going to employ the same tactics, stay out of range on the outside and tie up on the inside. Fight is in the UK, I just dont see Wlad outboxing him by nearly enough to actually get a decision there. What am I missing?

diddy wrote:Fury is +250 to win by Decision again. Someone please talk me out of dropping a missile on this? What is really going to change this time around? Fury is going to employ the same tactics, stay out of range on the outside and tie up on the inside. Fight is in the UK, I just dont see Wlad outboxing him by nearly enough to actually get a decision there. What am I missing?

I see Fury winning even easier .. Wlad has slipped he's old and it is showing. Fury by wide decision or late ref stoppage.

Wlad wins if he fights. If he shows up and let's Fury have it again, then Fury will win again by being slightly more active than a Wlad who is trying to win a staring contest.

If Wlad throws 10 or 15 more punches a round than he threw the first time he wins...probably by knockout.



Cue Horse coming in to tell how great Fury is, and how masterful his performance was the first time around. Sorry Horse. I have eyes, and they work.

I wonder if Tyson can lick the Klit again

gilgamesh wrote:Wlad wins if he fights. If he shows up and let's Fury have it again, then Fury will win again by being slightly more active than a Wlad who is trying to win a staring contest.

If Wlad throws 10 or 15 more punches a round than he threw the first time he wins...probably by knockout.



Cue Horse coming in to tell how great Fury is, and how masterful his performance was the first time around. Sorry Horse. I have eyes, and they work.

Wlad's brain has been reprogrammed via previous knockouts to be risk averse in the ring. He wont put himself in harm's way because when he has in the past he's gotten flattened. Against Fury he sees a man who is bigger than he is who can keep him on the outside and use movement to keep him there. In order to actually overcome Fury's size Wlad has to enter the danger zone, thus exposing his chin. I'm just not certain at his advanced age and wealth and social status that this is something his brain will allow him to do - which is take chances.

diddy wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Wlad wins if he fights. If he shows up and let's Fury have it again, then Fury will win again by being slightly more active than a Wlad who is trying to win a staring contest.

If Wlad throws 10 or 15 more punches a round than he threw the first time he wins...probably by knockout.



Cue Horse coming in to tell how great Fury is, and how masterful his performance was the first time around. Sorry Horse. I have eyes, and they work.

Wlad's brain has been reprogrammed via previous knockouts to be risk averse in the ring. He wont put himself in harm's way because when he has in the past he's gotten flattened. Against Fury he sees a man who is bigger than he is who can keep him on the outside and use movement to keep him there. In order to actually overcome Fury's size Wlad has to enter the danger zone, thus exposing his chin. I'm just not certain at his advanced age and wealth and social status that this is something his brain will allow him to do - which is take chances.

He could still be very cautious while only throwing 10 to 15 more punches a round. I figure that's all he'd need to do to win. Whether or not he will though is another question.

Wrong.. 10-15 punches a round got his face battered last time. By a guy who was barely doing more.. Vlad has an even harder task this time around, everybody knows he is going to be timid and overly cautious avoiding exchanges and clinching often. That has been his style for awhile now. It will never work against Fury. Vlad has to blitz him and get an early rounds stoppage or he is toast again.

SFW wrote:Wrong.. 10-15 punches a round got his face battered last time. By a guy who was barely doing more.. Vlad has an even harder task this time around, everybody knows he is going to be timid and overly cautious avoiding exchanges and clinching often. That has been his style for awhile now. It will never work against Fury. Vlad has to blitz him and get an early rounds stoppage or he is toast again.

I said 10 to 15 MORE punches. As in 10 to 15 more than he threw the first time. If he does that he will at least have given a half assed effort which is a full half more than he gave the first time. Last time I guess he hoped Fury was gonna trip on the way to the ring and break his neck or something because he didn't try a damn thing to win the fight in the ring.

I'm getting sleepy just thinking about this fight. This fight should be the opposite of PPV and networks should pay anyone that takes the time out of their day to watch it. With that said, I'm sure that Wlad got back on the juice and took a couple cycles of some kind of PED so maybe he won't be a timid little bitch again and maybe try to get off at least some point in the fight.

The most important thing is for Boxing to just get this fight over with and be done with it. To have these 2 Jamokes fighting for our sports Lineal Heavyweight Championship is an absolute embarrassment to everyone who's ever been associated with it. Get it done and over with so guys like Joshua, Ortiz and Wilder can pick it up in a year or so and bring the sport back to some kind of normalcy and hopefully bring some excitement. Anything is better than what we've had for the last 8 years.

gilgamesh wrote:Wlad wins if he fights. If he shows up and let's Fury have it again, then Fury will win again by being slightly more active than a Wlad who is trying to win a staring contest.

If Wlad throws 10 or 15 more punches a round than he threw the first time he wins...probably by knockout.



Cue Horse coming in to tell how great Fury is, and how masterful his performance was the first time around. Sorry Horse. I have eyes, and they work.

can't teach an old Wlad new punches

caldo2025 wrote:I'm getting sleepy just thinking about this fight. This fight should be the opposite of PPV.

haha the world's first 'Inverse PPV', I like that. it could take off. You can imagine your buddies in the pub moaning about their shitty career in Wlad-fight-watching though.

caldo2025 wrote:I'm getting sleepy just thinking about this fight. This fight should be the opposite of PPV and networks should pay anyone that takes the time out of their day to watch it. With that said, I'm sure that Wlad got back on the juice and took a couple cycles of some kind of PED so maybe he won't be a timid little bitch again and maybe try to get off at least some point in the fight.

The most important thing is for Boxing to just get this fight over with and be done with it. To have these 2 Jamokes fighting for our sports Lineal Heavyweight Championship is an absolute embarrassment to everyone who's ever been associated with it. Get it done and over with so guys like Joshua, Ortiz and Wilder can pick it up in a year or so and bring the sport back to some kind of normalcy and hopefully bring some excitement. Anything is better than what we've had for the last 8 years.

What we had for the last 8 years is a dominant champion who fought everyone. Sure it was boring at times but at least the
recognized champ didn't avoid anyone.

Let's be honest it wasn't exciting because his opponents generally weren't good enough to make it exciting, and he had no need to take anymreal chances.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Wlad wins if he fights. If he shows up and let's Fury have it again, then Fury will win again by being slightly more active than a Wlad who is trying to win a staring contest.

If Wlad throws 10 or 15 more punches a round than he threw the first time he wins...probably by knockout.



Cue Horse coming in to tell how great Fury is, and how masterful his performance was the first time around. Sorry Horse. I have eyes, and they work.

can't teach an old Wlad new punches

He doesn't need new punches he just needs to move his hands and actually throw the punches he knows

I didn't appreciate the last one. The fight bored me to tears and I found it hard to tell if it was Klitscko being woeful or Fury fighting extremely effectively that lent most to the result.
When the first fight was announced, I thought it'd be another dull, late rounds stoppage. This time round I've no idea. The only certainty is that I'll wait and read the result rather than watching it.

Lenny Cravats wrote:I didn't appreciate the last one. The fight bored me to tears and I found it hard to tell if it was Klitscko being woeful or Fury fighting extremely effectively that lent most to the result.
When the first fight was announced, I thought it'd be another dull, late rounds stoppage. This time round I've no idea. The only certainty is that I'll wait and read the result rather than watching it.

It was Klitschko not fighting and Fury barely fighting. Barely fighting beat Not fighting the first time around.

gilgamesh wrote:

Lenny Cravats wrote:I didn't appreciate the last one. The fight bored me to tears and I found it hard to tell if it was Klitscko being woeful or Fury fighting extremely effectively that lent most to the result.
When the first fight was announced, I thought it'd be another dull, late rounds stoppage. This time round I've no idea. The only certainty is that I'll wait and read the result rather than watching it.

It was Klitschko not fighting and Fury barely fighting. Barely fighting beat Not fighting the first time around.

great assesment

Fury is garbage and believes himself to be far better than he is.

Rematches very rarely follow the same pattern twice. I don't like to brag much about my betting wins (cause i lose more than i win) but i called all 3 Rios-Alvarado fights spot on. The 2nd fight in particular... i never seen a single person envision the 2nd going any different from the first, but why would Alvarado take the same approach?? Smart money was certainly Alvarado by Dec that night.

Klitchko by KO.

Wlad is motivated and will be throwing more punches. So unless you think Fury can take his power shots, he's in trouble.

Fury had a plan and it worked because Wlad didn't go after him until it was too late

Wlad via KO/TKO inside 7 rounds.

wlad not winning this.

easier win for tyson