Re: Next For David Price?
Posted: 22 Jan 2016, 06:02
thechump wrote:Dont mind them but their robbin all the job....oh u mean poll hahaCharlesListon wrote:I love a poll.
thechump wrote:Dont mind them but their robbin all the job....oh u mean poll hahaCharlesListon wrote:I love a poll.
What exactly would be the purpose of that though? His whole career basically has been built on him fighting domestic opposition/journeyman and then proceeding to get flattened when he's stepped up in competition. That's the problem. He's not had good enough tests in between those matchups.Dixonian wrote:Let him destroy a couple of hapless East European journeyman first. That Jacob Gospic guy who Chisora took out, then Remigijus Ziausys - who usually goes the distance. After that step up to fight spindly Brazilian Nasciemento. Then Derric Rossy.
But more than anything, do the work in the gym. Lift fewer weights, get the handspeed back, come in a little leaner so at least there's a chance of evading punches.
* First he needs to rebuild his confidence (Gospic),lefty wrote:What exactly would be the purpose of that though? His whole career basically has been built on him fighting domestic opposition/journeyman and then proceeding to get flattened when he's stepped up in competition. That's the problem. He's not had good enough tests in between those matchups.Dixonian wrote:Let him destroy a couple of hapless East European journeyman first. That Jacob Gospic guy who Chisora took out, then Remigijus Ziausys - who usually goes the distance. After that step up to fight spindly Brazilian Nasciemento. Then Derric Rossy.
But more than anything, do the work in the gym. Lift fewer weights, get the handspeed back, come in a little leaner so at least there's a chance of evading punches.
trying to build Price toward a World Title isn't going to work. I just don't think he has it in him.Dixonian wrote:* First he needs to rebuild his confidence (Gospic),lefty wrote:What exactly would be the purpose of that though? His whole career basically has been built on him fighting domestic opposition/journeyman and then proceeding to get flattened when he's stepped up in competition. That's the problem. He's not had good enough tests in between those matchups.Dixonian wrote:Let him destroy a couple of hapless East European journeyman first. That Jacob Gospic guy who Chisora took out, then Remigijus Ziausys - who usually goes the distance. After that step up to fight spindly Brazilian Nasciemento. Then Derric Rossy.
But more than anything, do the work in the gym. Lift fewer weights, get the handspeed back, come in a little leaner so at least there's a chance of evading punches.
* Then, he needs to get some rounds in the bank (Remi),
* Then, he needs someone a little awkward who might pose a few problems (Nasciemento - as he did to Joseph Parker) Or maybe a Christian Hammer type.
The point is he's making himself more marketable with a few Ws on his record. He's keeping in the gym trying to correct/manage his glaring weaknesses.
If he wants to pick up a title, he'll be best biding his time for a non-punching beltholder. I don't fancy his chances tbh, but I think this path gives him the best chance.
Towers, Sexton, Cornish are good shouts. But nobody will want to see him fight again after another bad defeat. So if he if gets walloped by Haye or Joshua (and he will - badly) he doesn't get a fight with Whyte (I don't see it as a 50-50 more 70-30 in Whyte's favour anyway) or a fight with Chisora/Hughry.wesshaw1985 wrote:trying to build Price toward a World Title isn't going to work. I just don't think he has it in him.Dixonian wrote:* First he needs to rebuild his confidence (Gospic),lefty wrote: What exactly would be the purpose of that though? His whole career basically has been built on him fighting domestic opposition/journeyman and then proceeding to get flattened when he's stepped up in competition. That's the problem. He's not had good enough tests in between those matchups.
* Then, he needs to get some rounds in the bank (Remi),
* Then, he needs someone a little awkward who might pose a few problems (Nasciemento - as he did to Joseph Parker) Or maybe a Christian Hammer type.
The point is he's making himself more marketable with a few Ws on his record. He's keeping in the gym trying to correct/manage his glaring weaknesses.
If he wants to pick up a title, he'll be best biding his time for a non-punching beltholder. I don't fancy his chances tbh, but I think this path gives him the best chance.
By the time Price is 35 he should hang his gloves up.
Use his name, take the paydays and then retire.
Cornish - confidence builder in April on either the AJ or Haye undercard.
Haye/Joshua - good payday but will lose.
Whyte - 50/50 fight.
Chisora and/or H.Fury - final pay days then hang them up.
Fill the in-betweens in with Sexton, Towers, Turner maybe an Aussie or 2.
Save your money and get out at the age of 35...
All it does is build false confidence. He knocks over some easter european road sweepers and then he gets put in with a half decent fighter and gets poleaxed. Story of David Price's career.Dixonian wrote:* First he needs to rebuild his confidence (Gospic),lefty wrote:What exactly would be the purpose of that though? His whole career basically has been built on him fighting domestic opposition/journeyman and then proceeding to get flattened when he's stepped up in competition. That's the problem. He's not had good enough tests in between those matchups.Dixonian wrote:Let him destroy a couple of hapless East European journeyman first. That Jacob Gospic guy who Chisora took out, then Remigijus Ziausys - who usually goes the distance. After that step up to fight spindly Brazilian Nasciemento. Then Derric Rossy.
But more than anything, do the work in the gym. Lift fewer weights, get the handspeed back, come in a little leaner so at least there's a chance of evading punches.
* Then, he needs to get some rounds in the bank (Remi),
* Then, he needs someone a little awkward who might pose a few problems (Nasciemento - as he did to Joseph Parker) Or maybe a Christian Hammer type.
The point is he's making himself more marketable with a few Ws on his record. He's keeping in the gym trying to correct/manage his glaring weaknesses.
If he wants to pick up a title, he'll be best biding his time for a non-punching beltholder. I don't fancy his chances tbh, but I think this path gives him the best chance.
Yes but what do you propose? Putting him straight in with Joshua?lefty wrote:All it does is build false confidence. He knocks over some easter european road sweepers and then he gets put in with a half decent fighter and gets poleaxed. Story of David Price's career.Dixonian wrote:* First he needs to rebuild his confidence (Gospic),lefty wrote: What exactly would be the purpose of that though? His whole career basically has been built on him fighting domestic opposition/journeyman and then proceeding to get flattened when he's stepped up in competition. That's the problem. He's not had good enough tests in between those matchups.
* Then, he needs to get some rounds in the bank (Remi),
* Then, he needs someone a little awkward who might pose a few problems (Nasciemento - as he did to Joseph Parker) Or maybe a Christian Hammer type.
The point is he's making himself more marketable with a few Ws on his record. He's keeping in the gym trying to correct/manage his glaring weaknesses.
If he wants to pick up a title, he'll be best biding his time for a non-punching beltholder. I don't fancy his chances tbh, but I think this path gives him the best chance.
Price doesn't need 3 building fights at this stage.Dixonian wrote:Yes but what do you propose? Putting him straight in with Joshua?lefty wrote:All it does is build false confidence. He knocks over some easter european road sweepers and then he gets put in with a half decent fighter and gets poleaxed. Story of David Price's career.Dixonian wrote:
* First he needs to rebuild his confidence (Gospic),
* Then, he needs to get some rounds in the bank (Remi),
* Then, he needs someone a little awkward who might pose a few problems (Nasciemento - as he did to Joseph Parker) Or maybe a Christian Hammer type.
The point is he's making himself more marketable with a few Ws on his record. He's keeping in the gym trying to correct/manage his glaring weaknesses.
If he wants to pick up a title, he'll be best biding his time for a non-punching beltholder. I don't fancy his chances tbh, but I think this path gives him the best chance.
It's a fight you can't sell unless he's knocked a few bodies.
Besides, the opponents I've identified offer the opportunity for gradual progression.
I personally think he needs to be matched with someone half decent. Someone like Chisora or Whyte. If he wins, he proves to himself that he can beat a decent fighter and come through adversity and will build some legitimate confidence for a fight with Joshua and if he doesnt come through with the win then he shouldnt be in the ring with Joshua in the first place. It's do or die time for Price (metaphorically speaking).Dixonian wrote:Yes but what do you propose? Putting him straight in with Joshua?lefty wrote:All it does is build false confidence. He knocks over some easter european road sweepers and then he gets put in with a half decent fighter and gets poleaxed. Story of David Price's career.Dixonian wrote:
* First he needs to rebuild his confidence (Gospic),
* Then, he needs to get some rounds in the bank (Remi),
* Then, he needs someone a little awkward who might pose a few problems (Nasciemento - as he did to Joseph Parker) Or maybe a Christian Hammer type.
The point is he's making himself more marketable with a few Ws on his record. He's keeping in the gym trying to correct/manage his glaring weaknesses.
If he wants to pick up a title, he'll be best biding his time for a non-punching beltholder. I don't fancy his chances tbh, but I think this path gives him the best chance.
It's a fight you can't sell unless he's knocked a few bodies.
Besides, the opponents I've identified offer the opportunity for gradual progression.
The embarrassing thing is, is that i'm not totally convinced he'd even beat Cornish. For all his flaws, Cornish is a big guy and he actually tried to take it to Joshua (getting chinned in the process). If Price was in the ring with Joshua I think he'd be terrified.wesshaw1985 wrote:Price doesn't need 3 building fights at this stage.Dixonian wrote:Yes but what do you propose? Putting him straight in with Joshua?lefty wrote: All it does is build false confidence. He knocks over some easter european road sweepers and then he gets put in with a half decent fighter and gets poleaxed. Story of David Price's career.
It's a fight you can't sell unless he's knocked a few bodies.
Besides, the opponents I've identified offer the opportunity for gradual progression.
Put him in with a knockover (Cornish) on Joshuas undercard in April then make the fight after.
Alternatively, put him in with a knockover (Cornish) on Hayes undercard in May and then make that fight after...
haha sad isn't it, but I think he beats Cornish however it isn't a forgone conclusion.lefty wrote:The embarrassing thing is, is that i'm not totally convinced he'd even beat Cornish. For all his flaws, Cornish is a big guy and he actually tried to take it to Joshua (getting chinned in the process). If Price was in the ring with Joshua I think he'd be terrified.wesshaw1985 wrote:Price doesn't need 3 building fights at this stage.Dixonian wrote:
Yes but what do you propose? Putting him straight in with Joshua?
It's a fight you can't sell unless he's knocked a few bodies.
Besides, the opponents I've identified offer the opportunity for gradual progression.
Put him in with a knockover (Cornish) on Joshuas undercard in April then make the fight after.
Alternatively, put him in with a knockover (Cornish) on Hayes undercard in May and then make that fight after...
Chisora and Whyte as a first comeback would not be a good idea. He needs confidence and rounds before taking those guys on - two fights I reckon.lefty wrote:I personally think he needs to be matched with someone half decent. Someone like Chisora or Whyte. If he wins, he proves to himself that he can beat a decent fighter and come through adversity and will build some legitimate confidence for a fight with Joshua and if he doesnt come through with the win then he shouldnt be in the ring with Joshua in the first place. It's do or die time for Price (metaphorically speaking).Dixonian wrote:Yes but what do you propose? Putting him straight in with Joshua?lefty wrote: All it does is build false confidence. He knocks over some easter european road sweepers and then he gets put in with a half decent fighter and gets poleaxed. Story of David Price's career.
It's a fight you can't sell unless he's knocked a few bodies.
Besides, the opponents I've identified offer the opportunity for gradual progression.
wesshaw1985 wrote:he can confidence-build sparring in camp. Pricey got ko'd last time out aswell.Gnome wrote:I would like to see Cornish have a tune-up fight to that, to be honest. He just KO'd in the first round, he should have a warm up bout first.wesshaw1985 wrote: sounds like a plan.
If he were to beat Cornish fast and in devastating fashion I believe Hearn could sell an AJ vs. Price fight to the public...
Theyre both as confident as each other...
Dixonian wrote:Towers, Sexton, Cornish are good shouts. But nobody will want to see him fight again after another bad defeat. So if he if gets walloped by Haye or Joshua (and he will - badly) he doesn't get a fight with Whyte (I don't see it as a 50-50 more 70-30 in Whyte's favour anyway) or a fight with Chisora/Hughry.wesshaw1985 wrote:trying to build Price toward a World Title isn't going to work. I just don't think he has it in him.Dixonian wrote:
* First he needs to rebuild his confidence (Gospic),
* Then, he needs to get some rounds in the bank (Remi),
* Then, he needs someone a little awkward who might pose a few problems (Nasciemento - as he did to Joseph Parker) Or maybe a Christian Hammer type.
The point is he's making himself more marketable with a few Ws on his record. He's keeping in the gym trying to correct/manage his glaring weaknesses.
If he wants to pick up a title, he'll be best biding his time for a non-punching beltholder. I don't fancy his chances tbh, but I think this path gives him the best chance.
By the time Price is 35 he should hang his gloves up.
Use his name, take the paydays and then retire.
Cornish - confidence builder in April on either the AJ or Haye undercard.
Haye/Joshua - good payday but will lose.
Whyte - 50/50 fight.
Chisora and/or H.Fury - final pay days then hang them up.
Fill the in-betweens in with Sexton, Towers, Turner maybe an Aussie or 2.
Save your money and get out at the age of 35...
What the hell is Towers doing these days anyway?
against unbeaten David Allen, can't see that fight lasting until March unfortunately...broomy7s wrote:Dixonian wrote:Towers, Sexton, Cornish are good shouts. But nobody will want to see him fight again after another bad defeat. So if he if gets walloped by Haye or Joshua (and he will - badly) he doesn't get a fight with Whyte (I don't see it as a 50-50 more 70-30 in Whyte's favour anyway) or a fight with Chisora/Hughry.wesshaw1985 wrote:
trying to build Price toward a World Title isn't going to work. I just don't think he has it in him.
By the time Price is 35 he should hang his gloves up.
Use his name, take the paydays and then retire.
Cornish - confidence builder in April on either the AJ or Haye undercard.
Haye/Joshua - good payday but will lose.
Whyte - 50/50 fight.
Chisora and/or H.Fury - final pay days then hang them up.
Fill the in-betweens in with Sexton, Towers, Turner maybe an Aussie or 2.
Save your money and get out at the age of 35...
What the hell is Towers doing these days anyway?
Towers is down to fight on Kell Brook undercard in march.