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I figured GGG's opinion would be

"He is Good boy"

I reckon groves would give him trouble in the ring to be honest. Triple G hasn't faced a real challenge yet and he doesn't seem in any hurry to do so, if he steps up a weight I think he will be another Arthur Abraham.

I couldnt give a monkeys about what a boxer does in sparring.

Finn wrote:I reckon groves would give him trouble in the ring to be honest. Triple G hasn't faced a real challenge yet and he doesn't seem in any hurry to do so, if he steps up a weight I think he will be another Arthur Abraham.

I couldnt give a monkeys about what a boxer does in sparring.

Hasn't faced a real challenge yet? He's beaten fighters more accomplished than Groves

Finn wrote:I reckon groves would give him trouble in the ring to be honest. Triple G hasn't faced a real challenge yet and he doesn't seem in any hurry to do so, if he steps up a weight I think he will be another Arthur Abraham.

I couldnt give a monkeys about what a boxer does in sparring.

He's practically begging Canelo to fight him.

jamiem26 wrote:

Finn wrote:I reckon groves would give him trouble in the ring to be honest. Triple G hasn't faced a real challenge yet and he doesn't seem in any hurry to do so, if he steps up a weight I think he will be another Arthur Abraham.

I couldnt give a monkeys about what a boxer does in sparring.

He's practically begging Canelo to fight him.

Canelo isn't a genuine middle weight that's why they want a catch weight fight.

The Revival wrote:

Finn wrote:I reckon groves would give him trouble in the ring to be honest. Triple G hasn't faced a real challenge yet and he doesn't seem in any hurry to do so, if he steps up a weight I think he will be another Arthur Abraham.

I couldnt give a monkeys about what a boxer does in sparring.

Hasn't faced a real challenge yet? He's beaten fighters more accomplished than Groves

Established fighters in a poor division, Murray was one of the best fighters in the division and a decent smw beat him with relative ease.

Abraham-Murray was fairly close, while GGG-Murray wasn't.

GGG is better all-round than AA and would have more tools to carry up with him in my opinion.

Finn wrote:

jamiem26 wrote:

Finn wrote:I reckon groves would give him trouble in the ring to be honest. Triple G hasn't faced a real challenge yet and he doesn't seem in any hurry to do so, if he steps up a weight I think he will be another Arthur Abraham.

I couldnt give a monkeys about what a boxer does in sparring.

He's practically begging Canelo to fight him.

Canelo isn't a genuine middle weight that's why they want a catch weight fight.

Canelo weighs into the 170s on fight night (he was reportedly 174 against Angulo while GGG was 173 against Rubio and 170 against Monroe) and is just as big as many fighters in the division.

Finn wrote:

jamiem26 wrote:

Finn wrote:I reckon groves would give him trouble in the ring to be honest. Triple G hasn't faced a real challenge yet and he doesn't seem in any hurry to do so, if he steps up a weight I think he will be another Arthur Abraham.

I couldnt give a monkeys about what a boxer does in sparring.

He's practically begging Canelo to fight him.

Canelo isn't a genuine middle weight that's why they want a catch weight fight.

He currently weighs in at more than 154lbs and less than 160lbs - That is a middleweight.

Finn wrote:I reckon groves would give him trouble in the ring to be honest. Triple G hasn't faced a real challenge yet and he doesn't seem in any hurry to do so, if he steps up a weight I think he will be another Arthur Abraham.

I couldnt give a monkeys about what a boxer does in sparring.

Golovkin would annihilate Groves.

leejonesjnr wrote:

Finn wrote:

jamiem26 wrote:


He's practically begging Canelo to fight him.

Canelo isn't a genuine middle weight that's why they want a catch weight fight.

He currently weighs in at more than 154lbs and less than 160lbs - That is a middleweight.

It's ok for Golovkin to ask for an 11st 10lbs catchweight against Ward, but not for Alvarez to ask for one against Golovkin.

Finn wrote:Established fighters in a poor division, Murray was one of the best fighters in the division and a decent smw beat him with relative ease.

Murray arguably beat Abraham. Abraham certainly did not beat him with ease.

Horse wrote:

Finn wrote:Established fighters in a poor division, Murray was one of the best fighters in the division and a decent smw beat him with relative ease.

Murray arguably beat Abraham. Abraham certainly did not beat him with ease.

There was no argument for him beating AA.

Finn wrote:There was no argument for him beating AA.

Yes, there was.

Horse wrote:

Finn wrote:There was no argument for him beating AA.

Yes, there was.

There wasn't.

leejonesjnr wrote:

Finn wrote:

jamiem26 wrote:


He's practically begging Canelo to fight him.

Canelo isn't a genuine middle weight that's why they want a catch weight fight.

He currently weighs in at more than 154lbs and less than 160lbs - That is a middleweight.

I know he is in that weight class but at the pre fight weigh in he was only one pound over the threshold, where as GGG weighs in just half a pound under the SMW limit. Canelo is a bulked up light middle, how man other middle weights apart from Cotto (who also isnt a genuine middle weight) weigh in that low?

Cotto and Canelo have been able to move up into that weight category because of the lack of quality in the division.

mickey1975 wrote:There wasn't.

There was.

Horse wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:There wasn't.

There was.

No there wasn't.

Boxerbeetle wrote:No there wasn't.

I scored it for Murray, so there was clearly a very good argument for him winning.

I thought it was a 7-5 type win for AA (whereas I had GGG up by 10 prior to the stoppage against Murray).

Horse wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:No there wasn't.

I scored it for Murray, so there was clearly a very good argument for him winning.

I know you rate Murray higher than most of us so I won't argue. But I felt (just as I felt on all his other world title attempts) that he didn't quite do enough to get the win.

There was more of an argument for Smith vs Abraham (1) than Murray vs Abraham.

I remember someone from Groves team (or maybe Groves himself) saying the sparring was good with both fighters landing good shots in an 'aggressive' spar. Wasn't it at Big Bear?

Boxerbeetle wrote:

Horse wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:There wasn't.

There was.

No there wasn't.

There really wasn't.

Old Jack J wrote:There was more of an argument for Smith vs Abraham (1) than Murray vs Abraham.

There was an argument for both.

Abraham didn't win either clearly.

CharlesListon wrote:There really wasn't.

There really, really was.