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Caught using PEDs:

Mickey Bey
Andre Berto
Antonio Tarver
J'Leon Love
James "Belly's Out" Toney
Larry Olubamiwo
Lamont Peterson
Shannon Briggs
Roid Jones
Fernando Vargas
Luis Ortiz
Ricardo Mayorga
Mariusz Wach
Kid Galahad
Brandon Rios
Frans Botha
Harry Simon
Orlando Sadlido
Guillermo Jones
Floyd Mayweather


Suspected of PED abuse:

Shane Mosely
Evander Holyfield
Yuriorkis Gamboa-leaked documents that tie him to a PED clinic


Refused PED testing:

Manny Pacquiao
Andre Ward

Recreational drugs:

Mike Tyson
JC Chavez Jr
JC Gomez
Pernell Whitaker


Recreational drugs post-career:

Joe Calzaghe
Ricky Hatton
Roberto Duran
Oscar De La Hoya

Freedom2013 wrote:Caught using PEDs:

Mickey Bey
Andre Berto
Antonio Tarver
J'Leon Love
James "Belly's Out" Toney
Larry Olubamiwo
Lamont Peterson
Shannon Briggs
Roid Jones
Fernando Vargas
Luis Ortiz
Ricardo Mayorga
Mariusz Wach
Kid Galahad
Brandon Rios
Frans Botha
Harry Simon
Orlando Sadlido
Guillermo Jones
Floyd Mayweather


Suspected of PED abuse:

Shane Mosely
Evander Holyfield
Yuriorkis Gamboa-leaked documents that tie him to a PED clinic


Refused PED testing:

Manny Pacquiao
Andre Ward

Recreational drugs:

Mike Tyson
JC Chavez Jr
JC Gomez
Pernell Whitaker


Recreational drugs post-career:

Joe Calzaghe
Ricky Hatton
Roberto Duran
Oscar De La Hoya

This is SLANDER, not proof!! There are no tests that show positive results of PEDS in his blood, if so, then please provide that as your "PROOF", otherwise you are just fishing. I figure by your list that you have already lynched enough Black men.

I bet Ricky won't be here to accuse you of SLANDER!! My bad, why would you accuse yourself? <<<<<(rhetorical)

Undefeated49-0 wrote:This is SLANDER, not proof!! There are no tests that show positive results of PEDS in his blood, if so, then please provide that as your "PROOF", otherwise you are just fishing. I figure by your list that you have already lynched enough Black men.

I bet Ricky won't be here to accuse you of SLANDER!! My bad, why would you accuse yourself? <<<<<(rhetorical)

What you talking about "lynched"?

What do black men have to do with it?

I was just listing all the people I know have been caught, refused testing, etc.

Freedom2013 wrote:What you talking about "lynched"? What do black men have to do with it? I was just listing all the people I know have been caught, testing, etc.

Sorry you're a little slow on the uptake. the vast majority of your list has african americans on it (I wonder why you chose this subject), hmmm.

Yes you're just listing who got caught but I know you and you take pleasure in doing it because of what color they are.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:What you talking about "lynched"? What do black men have to do with it? I was just listing all the people I know have been caught, testing, etc.

Sorry you're a little slow on the uptake. the vast majority of your list has african americans on it (I wonder why you chose this subject), hmmm.

Yes you're just listing who got caught but I know you and you take pleasure in doing it because of what color they are.

Probably because the majority of famous boxers who have been caught recently have been African Americans? I know you see the world as out to get you, but seriously try and treat people as individuals and stop being so hateful.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Sorry you're a little slow on the uptake. the vast majority of your list has african americans on it (I wonder why you chose this subject), hmmm.

Yes you're just listing who got caught but I know you and you take pleasure in doing it because of what color they are.

You're being paranoid, Brut.

foxdog1923 wrote:The question is, who has been caught?

Rightly said

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:Caught using PEDs:

Mickey Bey
Andre Berto
Antonio Tarver
J'Leon Love
James "Belly's Out" Toney
Larry Olubamiwo
Lamont Peterson
Shannon Briggs
Roid Jones
Fernando Vargas
Luis Ortiz
Ricardo Mayorga
Mariusz Wach
Kid Galahad
Brandon Rios
Frans Botha
Harry Simon
Orlando Sadlido
Guillermo Jones
Floyd Mayweather


Suspected of PED abuse:

Shane Mosely
Evander Holyfield
Yuriorkis Gamboa-leaked documents that tie him to a PED clinic


Refused PED testing:

Manny Pacquiao
Andre Ward

Recreational drugs:

Mike Tyson
JC Chavez Jr
JC Gomez
Pernell Whitaker


Recreational drugs post-career:

Joe Calzaghe
Ricky Hatton
Roberto Duran
Oscar De La Hoya

This is SLANDER, not proof!! There are no tests that show positive results of PEDS in his blood, if so, then please provide that as your "PROOF", otherwise you are just fishing. I figure by your list that you have already lynched enough Black men.

I bet Ricky won't be here to accuse you of SLANDER!! My bad, why would you accuse yourself? <<<<<(rhetorical)

Yes there are no test and it doesn't seems soon that right procedures for doping at right time will be adopted.

As far as I know Shannon Briggs hasn't used peds and Holyfield did, nickname, phone number, everything attached.
Briggs had some illegal substance in his blood because of his asma, as far as I understood.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Most criticized is:

Tarver aka Milk Dud
Toney aka the Michelin Tire Man
Roid Jones
Sugar cokeCane Mosley

Least criticized is Manny PEDman Pacquiao, his fans never own up to him doping and are too afraid to admit they are even remotely suspicious of him as well.

I feel the same way about your 49-0. His fans were in denial after raising some serious red flags after the Pacquiao fight.

watsupdoc87 wrote:

Lenny Cravats wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote: Wow. After a quick screen I'm surprised at some of the names. Although Wikipedia isn't that reliable a source but it's a good start. Ta.

In regards to the muscle gain in some of the boxers. A lot of those steroids WADA are very familiar with mainly due to bodybuilding. Muscle gain and that Adonis look is quite common with black athletes. Black people are just built.

Tyson and Holyfield have the best physiques in all of boxing. I hope I never hear they used roid's.

Holyfield didn't, but some guy called Evan Fields used to like a bit of HGH.

yea i think evan lived in a similar adress too, coincidence obviously

Shared a phone too

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:Caught using PEDs:

Mickey Bey
Andre Berto
Antonio Tarver
J'Leon Love
James "Belly's Out" Toney
Larry Olubamiwo
Lamont Peterson
Shannon Briggs
Roid Jones
Fernando Vargas
Luis Ortiz
Ricardo Mayorga
Mariusz Wach
Kid Galahad
Brandon Rios
Frans Botha
Harry Simon
Orlando Sadlido
Guillermo Jones
Floyd Mayweather


Suspected of PED abuse:

Shane Mosely
Evander Holyfield
Yuriorkis Gamboa-leaked documents that tie him to a PED clinic


Refused PED testing:

Manny Pacquiao
Andre Ward

Recreational drugs:

Mike Tyson
JC Chavez Jr
JC Gomez
Pernell Whitaker


Recreational drugs post-career:

Joe Calzaghe
Ricky Hatton
Roberto Duran
Oscar De La Hoya

This is SLANDER, not proof!! There are no tests that show positive results of PEDS in his blood, if so, then please provide that as your "PROOF", otherwise you are just fishing. I figure by your list that you have already lynched enough Black men.

I bet Ricky won't be here to accuse you of SLANDER!! My bad, why would you accuse yourself? <<<<<(rhetorical)

Just like neither Manny nor even Mosley EVER had test finding positive PEDs in their blood

For ALL of the flack he gets, Shane Mosley is about as innocent/guilty as Floyd Mayweather.

foxdog1923 wrote:

greg wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:The question is, who has been caught?

..in a legal sense yes, not in the court of public opinion though...

So which boxers been caught?

Then were are moral lessons of boxing???? If u insist only that who have been caught and whose not.......

I've never thought that recreational drug use belongs in the same conversation.

Davidreed wrote: Then were are moral lessons of boxing???? If u insist only that who have been caught and whose not.......

Who said anything about boxing morale?

I just bloody wanted to know if anyone has been caught for doping as I never heard of a boxer proven to be a drug cheat.

You jumped the gun when you read my questions. Just ease up there Tiger :)

What did Stevie Johnson flunk out on after his WBC title fight against Billy Schwer back in 99 I think?

Roy Jones and one of his BoTM opponents both failed a test after a bout sometime in the early 2000's. I can recall Boxing Monthly doing a piece on this.

From memory both of those should have been at best No-Contests an Schwer should have got a mandatory shot at the vacant title.

foxdog1923 wrote:

greg wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote: I know what you're saying in regards to what's going on here. While I don't mean to be a thread killer or trying put a close on this topic, I am simply curious if there has been a drug cheat as its not common in boxing.

But if none then speculate away..

this could be a good start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _in_boxing

Wow. After a quick screen I'm surprised at some of the names. Although Wikipedia isn't that reliable a source but it's a good start. Ta.

In regards to the muscle gain in some of the boxers. A lot of those steroids WADA are very familiar with mainly due to bodybuilding. Muscle gain and that Adonis look is quite common with black athletes. Black people are just built.

Tyson and Holyfield have the best physiques in all of boxing. I hope I never hear they used roid's.

Ken Norton had the best physique for me.

He seemed to be trim & more natural looking & not 'roided' up like some of the others.

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foxdog1923 wrote:

greg wrote: this could be a good start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _in_boxing

Wow. After a quick screen I'm surprised at some of the names. Although Wikipedia isn't that reliable a source but it's a good start. Ta.

In regards to the muscle gain in some of the boxers. A lot of those steroids WADA are very familiar with mainly due to bodybuilding. Muscle gain and that Adonis look is quite common with black athletes. Black people are just built.

Tyson and Holyfield have the best physiques in all of boxing. I hope I never hear they used roid's.

Ken Norton had the best physique for me.

He seemed to be trim & more natural looking & not 'roided' up like some of the others.

Yeah true that. Nortons physique was so natural and looked like he could fit into any sport unlike guys with too much muscle mass like Frank Bruno. Bruno too looked great but his speed in his hands suffered as a result of his muscles being too big and that takes me to my point earlier of Norton being able to fit into any sport he wanted to pursue because of his sheer athleticism.

asdfjkl wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:

greg wrote: this could be a good start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _in_boxing

Wow. After a quick screen I'm surprised at some of the names. Although Wikipedia isn't that reliable a source but it's a good start. Ta.

In regards to the muscle gain in some of the boxers. A lot of those steroids WADA are very familiar with mainly due to bodybuilding. Muscle gain and that Adonis look is quite common with black athletes. Black people are just built.

Tyson and Holyfield have the best physiques in all of boxing. I hope I never hear they used roid's.

Holy did, Tyson used drugs, but no roids

I doubt Tyson used roids he had the same body at 15 as he did in his prime.

The one that stands out for me by a long way is Manny, he refused tests because he was scared of needles despite being covered in tattoo's. Went through the weights like a bulldozer in no time and smashed big guys like Cotto and Margarito to pieces after having competitive fights a feather/ super feather where he didn't look like superman. I know Floyd got a lot of abuse for not fighting him in his prime but I don't blame him and as I always say, I'm no Floyd fan.

I'm more surprised when guys aren't on it, to be honest. Besides the guys who have been caught, here are a few I suspect are/have used:

Anthony Joshua: 20 pounds of lean muscle in a few years? Come on.

Peter Quillin: Credits "Memo" as integral part of his team and the testing for the Winky Wright fight was suspicious: http://www.maxboxing.com/news/max-boxin ... same-field
http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/5/26/30 ... oxing-news

Manny Pacquiao: Moved seamlessly through weight while losing so little speed, credited his fear of needles for refusing tests, etc.

Carlos Cuadras: Absurd back acne: http://www.asianfightscene.com/wp-conte ... IGHT-3.jpg

Anyone who uses Heredia and just about everyone who is a mainstay at Mayweather's gym, including Mayweather himself. Smoke is billowing from that place. Mickey Bey's T/E ratio when he got caught was ridiculous, J'Leon Love was busted, and Ishe Smith and Badou Jack work with "Memo". Mayweather two red flag tests, his breaking WADA protocol before the Pacquiao bout, his paying USADA far more money than others, the ease at which he moved through classes, etc.

I should note that Vanes Martirosyan called out Heredia last year on Twitter, saying that the first time they had ever met Heredia wanted to setup a drug plan for $15,000.

Wladimir Klitschko: ripped at a late age, Eastern Europeans are known for such things, and it is clear Germany would throw a positive result away, if they even made him do testing. It took half a year for Teper's results to be brought to light.

The only guy I really trust is Donaire. He does 24/7/365 VADA testing and looks natural. He has gotten fleshy as he has moved up and less effective.

Nightmare Roy wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote: Wow. After a quick screen I'm surprised at some of the names. Although Wikipedia isn't that reliable a source but it's a good start. Ta.

In regards to the muscle gain in some of the boxers. A lot of those steroids WADA are very familiar with mainly due to bodybuilding. Muscle gain and that Adonis look is quite common with black athletes. Black people are just built.

Tyson and Holyfield have the best physiques in all of boxing. I hope I never hear they used roid's.

Holy did, Tyson used drugs, but no roids

I doubt Tyson used roids he had the same body at 15 as he did in his prime.

I don't think Tyson used roids either, but he once had some illegal substances in his body, I don't think he intended to cheat, but according to paperwork he used some drugs at some point.

Nightmare Roy wrote:The one that stands out for me by a long way is Manny, he refused tests because he was scared of needles despite being covered in tattoo's. Went through the weights like a bulldozer in no time and smashed big guys like Cotto and Margarito to pieces after having competitive fights a feather/ super feather where he didn't look like superman. I know Floyd got a lot of abuse for not fighting him in his prime but I don't blame him and as I always say, I'm no Floyd fan.

Ironically, Floyd was the one who got caught trying to flush himself out.

Testing is a joke in all sports. Permissable levels are exploited i.e. guys take stuff up to at or just below the allowable levels. The people with the biggest budgets can push the envelope the furthest without fornicating it up. The guys who get caught are either plain dloppy or only have enough funds to be pinning their own ass with a bottle of what the fornicate from s local bodybuilder.

I don't trust many. Tony Bellew is one I do believe is 100% clean.

IKSRTFO wrote:Ironically, Floyd was the one who got caught trying to flush himself out.

Can you prove what he was "supposedly" trying to flush out of himself?? Why don't you show us the test results of what came out of his system or what was in it in the first place?

This is supposed to be the site where you are held liable for the damages you do to BoxRec.

If you don't have any proof of him actually flushing a PED then you should not talk.