Donald Curry

[Bricks]

I agree with palooka - no way Curry would have done all that. He didn't have the support structures.

lol im not saying he would have done all that either.im just saying if he had had mayweather or hopkins focus in the ring and a odlh or haymon protecting him outside the ring he could have beaten a lot of those guys but not the really big names

The fact is john gorman his manager was a disgrace.he upset curry out of the ring and currythan sought srl"s advice..........talk about out of the frying pan into the fire!

Srl of course misadvised him since srl had private designs on hagler and saw curry as competition......the rest is history......and yes curry sued srl ....and during this time early 86 curry started doing crack cocaine.

[palooka]

Do you know how Bruce Curry is doing?

[Bricks]

I dont palooka
But i heard lloyd honeyghan bumped into curry a few,years ago and said he didnt even recognise him.

Currys last fight was by far the saddest thing ive seen in boxing.worse than roy jones jnr or ali.

Curry has a real grudge fight with one of his former students and is goaded taunted and beaten by the ingrate who wouldnt have lasted 1 round with don in his prime

[palooka]

cheers Judah, boxing is a cruel sport. Donald was very gifted and seemed so intelligent, this bouts v McCrory, Jones and Starling are like boxing instructionals. It's a shame he's not in a good way.

[Truthseeker]

lol im not saying he would have done all that either.im just saying if he had had mayweather or hopkins focus in the ring and a odlh or haymon protecting him outside the ring he could have beaten a lot of those guys but not the really big names

OK, I know what you mean now.

Yea, the bit about Leonard giving Curry poor advice makes sense too. Shame that.

[Truthseeker]

Currys last fight was by far the saddest thing ive seen in boxing.worse than roy jones jnr or ali.

Curry has a real grudge fight with one of his former students and is goaded taunted and beaten by the ingrate who wouldnt have lasted 1 round with don in his prime

Damn..

[ImranSarwar]

He had a treacherous snake of a manager in gorman who was briefing against him in the press and he had another snake srl "advising" him on career choices in early 1986.

At that point curry was p4p number 1 or 2 according to ko magazine.

All these things contributed to his weight drained defeat to honeyghan

It was a defeat though.a peak boxing honeyghan who still had discipline and hands that held up was a very good stylist and won fai and square.

What follows is a very slight but significant development of a lapse in currys technique .he started leaning face forward and his,reflexes and speed slipped slightly.suddenly everyone was headbutting him lke a billy goat.he was shot even before fighting mccallum yet he was brilliantly outboxibg him for 5 rounds.....that lapse cost him yet still he wins a world title flooring rosi 6 times showing even half a curry was a very good fighter.

He gave norris and nunn problems and at his peak would have beaten both.

A very unlucky guy from the start.he woulda been 1980 olympic champ

But i dont think don should regret anythibg.what a stylist,what a champion from 1980 to 86! The best curry of that time was a match for any ww in history

Nice, Ben Fur! I'm friendship with Marlon Starling many years and..I know you know their history. "Moochie" told me back 2013 how he was on phone with his ex opponent..

[palooka]

Marlon was a very strong and skilled boxer, the 2 bouts with Curry were brilliant bouts of tactical boxing and correct and precise punching. I hope Starling is doing well in retirement - what a beating he gave Honeyghan!

[Bricks]

fellas

@palooka, yes it would be great to know how don is doing these days.im sure he will be doing well.these men were......fighters! All of them lloyd,don,marlon ......can wake up and look.in the mirror and say we were fighters.....we were world champions!

Imran/john how is marlon doing? I heard he posts elsewhere ,pls ask if if he is in touch with don?

Palooka u touch on a great point.....don beat the masterful starling twice.....than lloyd outboxes/brawls don....than marlon outboxes and ruins lloyds career.......what gives!?

Lloyd is remembered by most americans as a wild swinging brawler in his title reign but the reality is he was every bit as masterful a boxer as curry and marlon in his prime.look at the shufford ,mittee,rosi fights and even the last 4 years of his career when totally shot he reverted back to boxing.....

it was crazy the moment he beat curry ,he abandoned his skills and defence and made brawling his primary tool....he was womanising very very heavily,had his heart broken before the vaca fight and lost his dedication during late 86 -90 and marlon capitalised....

Equally curry was weight drained, had terrible managerial problems and had suffered a family bereavement and lloyd capitalised.

All 3 of these guys belong in the HOF , if mcguigan is in these guys have to be......wouldnt it be great to see them ride that victory parade together?

[ImranSarwar]

Marlon was a very strong and skilled boxer, the 2 bouts with Curry were brilliant bouts of tactical boxing and correct and precise punching. I hope Starling is doing well in retirement - what a beating he gave Honeyghan!

He IS doing well! I've been to his lovely appartment with him once. He lives in East Hartford with his wife. He lives modest yet comfortable. "Good dude" he is!

[Truthseeker]

palooka wrote:
Marlon was a very strong and skilled boxer, the 2 bouts with Curry were brilliant bouts of tactical boxing and correct and precise punching. I hope Starling is doing well in retirement - what a beating he gave Honeyghan!

I remember the build up to his fight with Lloyd and honestly I, didn't know much about starling and I thought Lloyd was going to beat him up. I watched the fight with my jaw to the floor at the end. It was a masterful performance and looked like he could have done 10 more rounds.

Glad Marlon's doing ok - I remember in a few interview's he seemed one of the sensible ones with his head screwed on properly - knowing he'd need some money for later.

[dr_devious]

Marlon Starling was an excellent technical boxer and a very tough guy, glad he is still doing well

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Yes, I read that a while back. Insightful things there on his background and on his mental approach to the big fights. Honest descriptions of his marriage situation and the childhood incident.

Does he talk about battering his wife and using his neglected son?

[Tomasino]

Yes, I read that a while back. Insightful things there on his background and on his mental approach to the big fights. Honest descriptions of his marriage situation and the childhood incident.

Does he talk about battering his wife and using his neglected son?

Using? I almost don't want to know....

[ImranSarwar]

About Marlon Starling... I could call him and engage him to something. He does some stuff like that. [We went to a High School basket ball championship one time, here in New Britain, CT. I....to make it worth while..pick up 5 autograph 8"X10" from him ($20 each). The BB got to introduce him to the 'fame' coach of JV squad ---who is the *real coach &..he been in position 25 years along with couple other top slots -&- got to introduce him to two Ex mayors (Stewart; & Pawlak)//"Moochie" came with Tom..a "good guy"/Senior he has been coaching. --I see him coaching two people, Tom; and another man I don't remember his name right now..but, unforgettable..the guy is a banker]
I used to go into his team to train. We had Atty F.Mac Buckley leading things then [Troy Wortham on the team. Tyrone Booze on the team. See >Harold Rice< training there before. From Italy we also had Luigi Camputaro. Once...this real fame boxer came into train, too. Name? Remember...Ali last fight before excile? WELL....his son. Or maybe nephew(?)]
I have Marlon in my corner for some matches before [New England championship finals, 1983 and bouts leading to there][with Marlon I out pointed K.Daigle who is draw-10r on Matthew Hilton's record/ + won vs Wayne Gordan, Canadian Olympian who was involved w/that well known SHAKE UP put on Mark Breland in those 84 Olympic Games.....]
HE IS ON FB!

[Nile4000]

Curry was the greatest victim of the U.S. boycott of the Moscow Olympics. He was the best amateur in the world at the time and he would have followed in Ray Leonard's footsteps as far as fame and fortune are concerned.

He was awesome but too many amateur fights took it out of him early. His prime was epic, still.

He was one of the best amateurs, Jackie Beard and Bernard Taylor were right with him. He probably did have too many amateur fights, but Ray Darth Leonard messed him up with his advice. Still say McCrory beats him if they fought in the late 82/ early 83 time period.

[drunkenpiper36]

Curry was an excellent fighter who just fell an inch short of great. The Honeyghan loss ruined him in my opinion and he simply didn't have the durability needed to succeed above welter. But a very pleasing boxer to watch and one who had some stellar wins.

[elmersalsa]

Curry was an excellent fighter who just fell an inch short of great. The Honeyghan loss ruined him in my opinion and he simply didn't have the durability needed to succeed above welter. But a very pleasing boxer to watch and one who had some stellar wins.

Yeah. I used to like him a lot. He had a perfect left hook, especially against tall boxers.

[Counter-puncher]

Curry was the greatest victim of the U.S. boycott of the Moscow Olympics. He was the best amateur in the world at the time and he would have followed in Ray Leonard's footsteps as far as fame and fortune are concerned.

He was awesome but too many amateur fights took it out of him early. His prime was epic, still.

He was one of the best amateurs, Jackie Beard and Bernard Taylor were right with him. He probably did have too many amateur fights, but Ray Darth Leonard messed him up with his advice. Still say McCrory beats him if they fought in the late 82/ early 83 time period.

I don't see McCrory ever beating Curry

[Nile4000]

In late 82 to early 83, I think there was a strong possibility of McCrory beating Curry since neither was fully developed.

[Bricks]

He had a treacherous snake of a manager in gorman who was briefing against him in the press and he had another snake srl "advising" him on career choices in early 1986.

At that point curry was p4p number 1 or 2 according to ko magazine.

All these things contributed to his weight drained defeat to honeyghan

Donald had been begging his manager that he be allowed to move up in weight and that a hagler fight be made. clueless Gorman and Akbar muhammad thought otherwise in a time when fighters aside from SRL , Hearns and Hagler were mules

It was a defeat though.a peak boxing honeyghan who still had discipline and hands that held up was a very good stylist and won fair and square. It was no flash in pan.

What follows is a very slight but significant development of a lapse in currys technique .he started leaning face forward and his,reflexes and speed slipped slightly.suddenly everyone was headbutting him lke a billy goat.he was shot even before fighting mccallum yet he was brilliantly outboxing him for 5 rounds hurting him in a way few ever did to the great mccallum.....that single lapse cost him yet still he wins a world title flooring rosi 6 times showing even half a curry was a very good fighter.

He gave norris and nunn problems and at his peak would have beaten both.

A very unlucky guy from the start.he woulda been 1980 olympic champ if not for the boycott.

But i dont think don should regret anything.what a stylist,what a champion from 1980 to 86! The best curry of that time was a match for any ww in history. He may have made poor financial choices or more likely been ripped off. That's sad but what a man he entertained the world