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Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 09:59
by Roars Like Me
Yep correct! Big announcement only being that his opponent is 6,5
http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/robert- ... -duhaupas/
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 10:17
by Datsue
Taki... wrote:Gender reassignment.
I only came here to say "Finally getting a haircut", but now such ribaldry is redundant.
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 10:21
by Tony1244
I apologize for this thread. Never would have done it if I had known this would be the answer.
Big announcement? Really? I have a big announcement too. I'm going to go make myself another cup of fooking coffee.

Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 10:40
by fightfan95
Tony1244 wrote:
I apologize for this thread. Never would have done it if I had known this would be the answer.
Big announcement? Really? I have a big announcement too. I'm going to go make myself another cup of fooking coffee.

Don't worry I wasn't aiming it towards you, I just think how can Helenius say this is a big announcement.
I would rather watch you make a coffee than this 'BIG' fight

Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 10:56
by Tony1244
fightfan95 wrote:Tony1244 wrote:
I apologize for this thread. Never would have done it if I had known this would be the answer.
Big announcement? Really? I have a big announcement too. I'm going to go make myself another cup of fooking coffee.

Don't worry I wasn't aiming it towards you, I just think how can Helenius say this is a big announcement.
I would rather watch you make a coffee than this 'BIG' fight

No problem. They say you learn something new everyday and today I learned that Robert Helenius is full of crap.

Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 11:33
by Sklar
Taki... wrote:Gender reassignment.

Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 12:21
by Tony1244
Taki... wrote:Gender reassignment.
Ducking ranked Chisora and forfeiting European title to "fight" unranked Duhaupas is pretty much the same thing as gender reassignment, so I give "Taki" full credit for the correct answer.
Helenius says he wants a shot at a HW title, but Chisora is ranked by 2 alphabets and Duhaupas is unranked.
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 14:09
by actjac
A decent challenge with the Frenchman. Given Robert's layoff it is a good move before taking on the elites.
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 15:30
by punchoutsb
Tony1244 wrote:Taki... wrote:Gender reassignment.
Ducking ranked Chisora and forfeiting European title to "fight" unranked Duhaupas is pretty much the same thing as gender reassignment, so I give "Taki" full credit for the correct answer.
Helenius says he wants a shot at a HW title, but Chisora is ranked by 2 alphabets and Duhaupas is unranked.
Come on man...
He is not "ducking" Chisora. The Chisora fight would have been a defense of Robert's EBU title, no major rankings on the line as Chisora's highest ranking is 13th (right behind Helenius), hardly anything to write home about. Chisora also fights for Suaerland, who screwed and derailed Helenius career for years.
The fight against Duhaupas is for the WBC Silver belt, which Povetkin is dropping to fight for the full title. A win over Duhapaus makes Helenius the mandatory for Wilder.
Remind me again why defending his EBU title against fat, sloppy Del Boy would be a better way to land a title shot?
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 16:16
by Freedom2013
So Helenius is taking Wilder's "Bum Squad" route to maintaining an undefeated record.
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 16:19
by Tony1244
punchoutsb wrote:Tony1244 wrote:Taki... wrote:Gender reassignment.
Ducking ranked Chisora and forfeiting European title to "fight" unranked Duhaupas is pretty much the same thing as gender reassignment, so I give "Taki" full credit for the correct answer.
Helenius says he wants a shot at a HW title, but Chisora is ranked by 2 alphabets and Duhaupas is unranked.
Come on man...
He is not "ducking" Chisora. The Chisora fight would have been a defense of Robert's EBU title, no major rankings on the line as Chisora's highest ranking is 13th (right behind Helenius), hardly anything to write home about. Chisora also fights for Suaerland, who screwed and derailed Helenius career for years.
The fight against Duhaupas is for the WBC Silver belt, which Povetkin is dropping to fight for the full title. A win over Duhapaus makes Helenius the mandatory for Wilder.
Remind me again why defending his EBU title against fat, sloppy Del Boy would be a better way to land a title shot?
1) Chisora deserved the decision against Helenius. I don't think anyone honest disputes that. Injury notwithstanding.
2) Chisora is ranked by 2 of the corrupt organizations. Duhaupas is presently unranked.
3) Frankly, I don't think Chisora would have been a "big announcement" either.
A big announcement would have been Martin, Joshua, or Haye.
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 16:30
by diddy
Would you expect anything different from this "sport"?
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 17:02
by punchoutsb
Tony1244 wrote:
1) Chisora deserved the decision against Helenius. I don't think anyone honest disputes that. Injury notwithstanding.
2) Chisora is ranked by 2 of the corrupt organizations. Duhaupas is presently unranked.
3) Frankly, I don't think Chisora would have been a "big announcement" either.
A big announcement would have been Martin, Joshua, or Haye.
1) Yes. But you can't discount the injury; it played a major role.
2) So? This fight is to become mandatory to Wilder. a win over fat Del Boy gets...what?
3) It would have been less of a "big announcement" than this because it's simply a defense of the EBU title. The winner of this match is directly in line for a title shot.
As far as fans are concerned, any of the three you listed in your last sentence would have been a bigger fight. As far as Helenius career is concerned, this fight puts him in line for a title shot. The only one bigger than that would have been Martin for his IBF trinket, but I seriously doubt they're looking for someone like Helenius for his first defense.
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 18:44
by Mr Icaman
Freedom2013 wrote:So Helenius is taking Wilder's "Bum Squad" route to maintaining an undefeated record.
Well it got Wilder a major belt so nothing wrong with Helenius using the same strat..
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 08 Feb 2016, 20:40
by Tony1244
punchoutsb wrote:Tony1244 wrote:
1) Chisora deserved the decision against Helenius. I don't think anyone honest disputes that. Injury notwithstanding.
2) Chisora is ranked by 2 of the corrupt organizations. Duhaupas is presently unranked.
3) Frankly, I don't think Chisora would have been a "big announcement" either.
A big announcement would have been Martin, Joshua, or Haye.
1) Yes. But you can't discount the injury; it played a major role.
2) So? This fight is to become mandatory to Wilder. a win over fat Del Boy gets...what?
3) It would have been less of a "big announcement" than this because it's simply a defense of the EBU title. The winner of this match is directly in line for a title shot.
As far as fans are concerned, any of the three you listed in your last sentence would have been a bigger fight. As far as Helenius career is concerned, this fight puts him in line for a title shot. The only one bigger than that would have been Martin for his IBF trinket, but I seriously doubt they're looking for someone like Helenius for his first defense.
1) Very possibly. Only he and his inner circle know the degree.
2) Fair enough. Helenius should do what's right by him. I was merely complaining about the "big" announcement tease.
3) IF Wilder fights and beats Povetkin, Deontay may be looking at the winner of Fury-Wlad 2, or Martin. Who knows if he'd wait around for Helenius.
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 09 Feb 2016, 13:00
by crusader
Helenius has looked mediocre in his last few matches. If Duhaupas is really up for this and doesn't slip into journeyman mode I wouldn't be surprised if he got the better of things, though actually winning is another matter.
And okay, maybe a bit underwhelming given the big announcement talk, but this is a solid fight.
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 09 Feb 2016, 15:42
by Tarkus
Of course its a a big announcement and a major step up. After 4 years of hiatus Nordic Nightmare takes on a French Reptile that recently lost the world championship challenge against the undefeated American Bronze Bomber. Eleven rounds of a world title fight where Duha showed great chin, heart and complete luck of boxing skills.
Helen has a punch and Duha has a chin. Neither of them can box. Its a tossup.
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 09 Feb 2016, 17:32
by pound per pound
Freedom2013 wrote:So Helenius is taking Wilder's "Bum Squad" route to maintaining an undefeated record.
That's his strategy. Beat the bums Wilder gave title shots. If Helenius does it more impressively, he's got some momentum.
Helenius would be Wilder's best title opponent.
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 09 Feb 2016, 17:38
by ProMayhem
How on earth can his be for the Silver title ?
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 09 Feb 2016, 17:39
by Rexob
pound per pound wrote:Freedom2013 wrote:So Helenius is taking Wilder's "Bum Squad" route to maintaining an undefeated record.
That's his strategy. Beat the bums Wilder gave title shots. If Helenius does it more impressively, he's got some momentum.
Helenius would be Wilder's best title opponent.
By far and he's still pretty poor himself.
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 10 Feb 2016, 00:57
by Lackeos
I personally think Helenius - Duhaupus would be a relatively even match-up. Helenius injured his shoulder against Chisora, then damaged his larynx in sparring, and his matchmaking in the past 4 years suggests that his handlers don't perceive him as being 100% of what he used to be. Duhaupus also seemed super durable and relatively decent against Wilder. So yeah, I think it's a respectable 55/45 or 60/40 match-up, and I hope the winner looks for interesting match-ups against someone like Glazkov, Szpilka, Stiverne, Browne, Breazeale, Cunningham, or Chagaev.
Re: Helenius' Big Announcement Monday is:
Posted: 10 Feb 2016, 13:03
by funso banjo baby
its only going to be relevant if Helenius can knock the durable Duhaupas out impressively.
but its been long time since we saw any kind of power from Helenius's punches