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Alvarez is a phony and a chicken. If Kahn can take his power why can't he outbox this chicken like Lara did?

sucracristo wrote:

Tanzio wrote:3G is the Hagler of this era.

stepping aside 3 times to allow other guys he could maul fight for a title rightfully his?
just don't see hagler doing that. this is 1/3 canelo's fault, 1/3 GGG's, and 1/3 the wbc's.
they are all equally to blame and this couldn't be happening without consent of all 3

Come on man. Hagler would have done the exact same thing 3G has done. He can't force Team GingerHead to man up. He can't force the WBC to do the right thing. He CAN take the money.

IMO, anybody in the top ten who won't fight 3G should be paying "protection" money or take a severe beating.

SenorPipino wrote:Boxing gives us another Khan-job.

Don't today's middleweight titlists want anything to do with middleweights.

Cotto avoided anyone who weighed 160, and now Canelo is apparently following the same path.

Despite ODLH recent promise, Golden Boy is actively pursuing a Cotto rematch for Canelo in September, not the awaited bout with the Russian.

At least Cotto has developed into a solid junior middleweight. Khan has only had 3 fights as a WELTER, and was repeatedly rocked by feather-fisted Algieri.

If Canelo was the aggressive sort, he would dismantle the fragile chinned Brit in 1 round. Instead he'll lumber after a fleeing Khan for half the bout until Kahn slows a bit, gets tagged and goes to sleep.

A one-sided mismatch.

We need real men like Marvin Hagler back in charge of the middleweight division again. He wouldn't disgrace himself by putting his belt on the line against brittle welterweight weenies.

To be fair haglers biggest fights were against smaller fighters, hearns,Leonard, mugabi

Tanzio wrote: Come on man. Hagler would have done the exact same thing 3G has done. He can't force Team GingerHead to man up. He can't force the WBC to do the right thing. He CAN take the money.

IMO, anybody in the top ten who won't fight 3G should be paying "protection" money or take a severe beating.

you're right that it should be a stipulation from the belts, if it isn't already, that if you want
to be ranked you agree that if you are ever made mandatory and back out of a purse bid
you will be blocked from being ranked or fighting for a title again in any division for 5 years.
hagler would have said "fight me or give up the title". he would not have waited years for
smaller guys he could beat to fight for a title rightfully his. no way, no how. GGG is mandatory.
all he has to say is "fight me or give up the title". simple as that. cotto won the title june 2014,
GGG won that interim title a few months later and we're talking about theoretically him fighting
for the title in sept 2016... we're talking years of this guy's career stepping aside.

sucracristo wrote:

Tanzio wrote: Come on man. Hagler would have done the exact same thing 3G has done. He can't force Team GingerHead to man up. He can't force the WBC to do the right thing. He CAN take the money.

IMO, anybody in the top ten who won't fight 3G should be paying "protection" money or take a severe beating.

you're right that it should be a stipulation from the belts, if it isn't already, that if you want
to be ranked you agree that if you are ever made mandatory and back out of a purse bid
you will be blocked from being ranked or fighting for a title again in any division for 5 years.
hagler would have said "fight me or give up the title". he would not have waited years for
smaller guys he could beat to fight for a title rightfully his. no way, no how. GGG is mandatory.
all he has to say is "fight me or give up the title". simple as that. cotto won the title june 2014,
GGG won that interim title a few months later and we're talking about theoretically him fighting
for the title in sept 2016... we're talking years of this guy's career stepping aside.

I get what you are saying. Maybe you are right. Maybe Hagler would have forced the issue, back then.

However, if Hagler was faced with the same circumstances as 3G faces today, I believe that he would have likely made the same choices. We have no idea what has actually gone on behind the scenes. It is very possible / likely that Cotto and GingerHead simply informed 3G that they would relinquish their belts rather than fight him. Maybe the sanctioning bodies told 3G that if he did not step aside they would make life difficult for him.

Faced with today's circumstances I am confident that Hagler would do what 3G is doing, take the step aside money and stay busy until the right opportunity presents itself.

When looking back at Hagler's run, I see more similarities than differences with 3G. The differences have nothing to do with their willingness to fight anyone. The difference is that 3G has been avoided more than Marvelous Marvin was.

SenorPipino wrote: Don't today's middleweight titlists want anything to do with middleweights.

That's what I'm wondering.

sucracristo wrote:

J Griz 757 wrote:Amir Khan SD12 Saul Alverez, however improbable, sure is fun to speculate watching that pant shtting reality play out.

then watch a 3rd small wbc titlist demand a defense before facing manatory GGG, and
GGG once again getting paid to step aside, and khan picking yuriorkis gamboa for that
defense, and khan gets ktfo, then gamboa demands to defend the wbc middleweight title
against abner mares...

What a shitty thought...

Joe Boxer wrote:

SenorPipino wrote: Don't today's middleweight titlists want anything to do with middleweights.

That's what I'm wondering.

Yes they do but not North Americans. All the cowards in boxing trace back to being North American. FACT.

Lancenix wrote:

Joe Boxer wrote:

SenorPipino wrote: Don't today's middleweight titlists want anything to do with middleweights.

That's what I'm wondering.

Yes they do but not North Americans. All the cowards in boxing trace back to being North American. FACT.

. . . over and over and over and over.

Same feces, different threads.