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ttornado wrote:

Tony1244 wrote: I've known a number of idiots in my day; I've never known any idiot though who believed pot was performance enhancing. To test for it for fighters is just moronic, but that's what I expect from moronic boxing officials.

Numerous studies show the analgesic properties cannabinoids

Aspirin, alcohol and caffeine relieve too.

Lackeos wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:

Perseus wrote:...........and that's why I said reduced reflexes.
Pot will calm you down but it's also going to slow you down, only idiots believe pot is a performance enhancer.

I've known a number of idiots in my day; I've never known any idiot though who believed pot was performance enhancing. To test for it for fighters is just moronic, but that's what I expect from moronic boxing officials.

Emmanuel Augustus thought it was.

What happened there?

If I remember right he popped positive for weed after a fight in Michigan.
Based on his antics in the ring, he probably went to the ring stoned a few times.

caldo2025 wrote: Pot shouldn't be on the list as it's slowly becoming legalized in the US, state by state.

Many legal drugs are on the list already.

I'd be surprised if Arreola was stoned in the ring.

My guess is he smoked to "get psyched" for his running or to chill out at night.

ttornado wrote:

caldo2025 wrote: Pot shouldn't be on the list as it's slowly becoming legalized in the US, state by state.

Many legal drugs are on the list already.

That's true. There's plenty of legal drugs that could give an athlete an edge, you're right. But Pot can't provide anyone an unfair advantage in the ring. I don't see how anyway.

Lackeos wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:

Perseus wrote:...........and that's why I said reduced reflexes.
Pot will calm you down but it's also going to slow you down, only idiots believe pot is a performance enhancer.

I've known a number of idiots in my day; I've never known any idiot though who believed pot was performance enhancing. To test for it for fighters is just moronic, but that's what I expect from moronic boxing officials.

Emmanuel Augustus thought it was.

They don't consider it performance enhancing. It's more of a moral thing for the sport, same as most other sports

danconnollyeire wrote:

Lackeos wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:

I've known a number of idiots in my day; I've never known any idiot though who believed pot was performance enhancing. To test for it for fighters is just moronic, but that's what I expect from moronic boxing officials.

Emmanuel Augustus thought it was.

They don't consider it performance enhancing. It's more of a moral thing for the sport, same as most other sports

Moral? Please explain. You lost me.

...he's a professional, should have known better...no excuse...

I read that there's a lot of MMA fighters that blaze, especially in Brazil, because they're so beaten and broken up in their careers it's basically either smoke weed or becoming addicted to pain killers. I don't really know what's banned and what's not but I'd presume you get a pass for some opiates like codeine, right? Or do they pop you for that, too? I seem to remember Frans Botha getting busted for a benzodiazepine like Valium or something a while ago, which seems ridiculous as that can be prescribed for muscle spasm which I'm sure is pretty commonplace in boxing.

THC is stored in fat cells I believe which is why people test positive for it for so long after smoking it, so it's no wonder these fatass boxers like Arreola and Chavez Jnr get busted for it. They get labeled pot heads but all they have to do is smoke a joint once at a party, not even in training camp, and three months down the line they'll still get done for it.

I personally think if it's in the rules not to do it don't do it: there's so much at stake. But I see the argument that it's ridiculous and the rules should be changed.

History repeats itself

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=190267

but this time the news came out a lot more quickly

Tony1244 wrote:I'd be surprised if Arreola was stoned in the ring.

My guess is he smoked to "get psyched" for his running or to chill out at night.

Arreola RUNS?! GTFOH.....

Counter-puncher wrote:

Tony1244 wrote:I'd be surprised if Arreola was stoned in the ring.

My guess is he smoked to "get psyched" for his running or to chill out at night.

Arreola RUNS?! GTFOH.....

Of course Arreola runs. You get to Taco Bell quicker that way.

I never thought Chris would be one of those fighters that could defend the title over and over again should he get it and my expectations didn't exactly reach for the moon.
But I did believe Chris Arreola on his night could win a version and become the Champion if only for a short time.
It never came and I was wrong.

The fight against Adamek when he outweighed Tomasz by 33 pounds should have set him up and he blew it.
Some may point to the Vitali fight prior that may have weakened him but I think he'd shook that off.
Arreola's weight was always scrappy and for some reason he couldn't discipline himself enough to balance it, people are complex.
I enjoyed watching his fights though they were entertaining.

The last thing that blob needs is weed. As for it being a ped, I wouldn't say that but it's very relaxing and hels focus for a singular purpose. If you're am everyday smoker it could definitely help with prefight nerves.

What

clopixolacuphase wrote:I read that there's a lot of MMA fighters that blaze, especially in Brazil, because they're so beaten and broken up in their careers it's basically either smoke weed or becoming addicted to pain killers. I don't really know what's banned and what's not but I'd presume you get a pass for some opiates like codeine, right? Or do they pop you for that, too? I seem to remember Frans Botha getting busted for a benzodiazepine like Valium or something a while ago, which seems ridiculous as that can be prescribed for muscle spasm which I'm sure is pretty commonplace in boxing.

THC is stored in fat cells I believe which is why people test positive for it for so long after smoking it, so it's no wonder these fatass boxers like Arreola and Chavez Jnr get busted for it. They get labeled pot heads but all they have to do is smoke a joint once at a party, not even in training camp, and three months down the line they'll still get done for it.

I personally think if it's in the rules not to do it don't do it: there's so much at stake. But I see the argument that it's ridiculous and the rules should be changed.

3 months? Pop is out of your system in a short period of time. 7 to 10 days.

Evander wrote:What

What's confusing?

The thread is about fighters in boxing not somebody else in another sport.

Evander wrote:The thread is about fighters in boxing not somebody else in another sport.

What?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: 3 months? Pop is out of your system in a short period of time. 7 to 10 days.

Nop, if you smoked weed can be tested for up to 3 months.

asdfjkl wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: 3 months? Pop is out of your system in a short period of time. 7 to 10 days.

Nop, if you smoked weed can be tested for up to 3 months.

Incorrect

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: 3 months? Pop is out of your system in a short period of time. 7 to 10 days.

Nop, if you smoked weed can be tested for up to 3 months.

Incorrect

THC stores in fat cells; lipolysis increases the chances that you test positive at a much later date, dependent on how much you use and how fat you are.

There is no guaranteed timeline for not testing positive for weed, especially if you get big and fat like Arreola.

At this point, anyone against marijuana use for boxers and football players (and adults) is a Christian, an idiot, or didn't learn anything about drugs past health class in school.

In fact, the general level of misinformation about weed is startling in this day and age.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:At this point, anyone against marijuana use for boxers and football players (and adults) is a Christian, an idiot, or didn't learn anything about drugs past health class in school.

In fact, the general level of misinformation about weed is startling in this day and age.

All it takes to understand the lack of harm that Weed presents is to smoke it one time.