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Horse wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:I've already said I never joke about boxing, so I am being serious. I'm not saying they will view it as an easy win, simply that they will have no fear of facing Fury. They'll have fear of punchers like Povetkin, Haye or Wilder who could potentially derail Joshua with one punch, but there's little chance of Fury doing that.

Povetkin - 71% KO rate.
Fury - 72% KO rate.

I don't think Povetkin hits much harder than Fury, if at all.

Fury would have a very good chance of stopping Joshua if they fought.

Come on Horse. What was the last impressive stoppage you can remember from Fury? Cunningham? The "chinny light heavyweight ?? I've followed his career and he's never been regarded as a puncher. Povetkin's recent stoppage wins over pretty tough guys do illustrate that he's probably a harder one punch hitter than Fury, regardless of KO ratio.

Horse wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:I've already said I never joke about boxing, so I am being serious. I'm not saying they will view it as an easy win, simply that they will have no fear of facing Fury. They'll have fear of punchers like Povetkin, Haye or Wilder who could potentially derail Joshua with one punch, but there's little chance of Fury doing that.

Povetkin - 71% KO rate.
Fury - 72% KO rate.

I don't think Povetkin hits much harder than Fury, if at all.

Fury would have a very good chance of stopping Joshua if they fought.

What do you base that on?

clopixolacuphase wrote:

Horse wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:I've already said I never joke about boxing, so I am being serious. I'm not saying they will view it as an easy win, simply that they will have no fear of facing Fury. They'll have fear of punchers like Povetkin, Haye or Wilder who could potentially derail Joshua with one punch, but there's little chance of Fury doing that.

Povetkin - 71% KO rate.
Fury - 72% KO rate.

I don't think Povetkin hits much harder than Fury, if at all.

Fury would have a very good chance of stopping Joshua if they fought.

Come on Horse. What was the last impressive stoppage you can remember from Fury? Cunningham? The "chinny light heavyweight ?? I've followed his career and he's never been regarded as a puncher. Povetkin's recent stoppage wins over pretty tough guys do illustrate that he's probably a harder one punch hitter than Fury, regardless of KO ratio.

I think Povetkin is the bigger puncher, but at times it gets made out like Fury can't punch which is completely untrue, any other division and he'd be seen as a pretty big puncher.

Tougher fight than a lot of people think. Not gonna lie, would laugh if Joshua got chinned lol

gazza8 wrote:What do you base that on?

Joshua is unproven and was hurt by Whyte. Fury is the undisputed champion with a 72% KO rate.

lefty wrote:Tougher fight than a lot of people think. Not gonna lie, would laugh if Joshua got chinned lol

I think a lot of people would..

why do people keed citing the dylon whyte fight when talking about aj, who the fuk had whyte fought before aj , nobody, have yous read his record and seen who hes fought. beating whyte doesnt mean shit. was just hyped up to sell a domestic fight.

watsupdoc87 wrote:why do people keed citing the dylon whyte fight when talking about aj, who the fuk had whyte fought before aj , nobody, have yous read his record and seen who hes fought. beating whyte doesnt mean poo. was just hyped up to sell a domestic fight.

How do you know Whyte wouldn't beat Fury?

This might not be a walk in the park for Joshua like people think..

Boxerbeetle wrote:

watsupdoc87 wrote:why do people keed citing the dylon whyte fight when talking about aj, who the fuk had whyte fought before aj , nobody, have yous read his record and seen who hes fought. beating whyte doesnt mean poo. was just hyped up to sell a domestic fight.

How do you know Whyte wouldn't beat Fury?

Would be similar to Fury Chisora 2

rossij8 wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

watsupdoc87 wrote:why do people keed citing the dylon whyte fight when talking about aj, who the fuk had whyte fought before aj , nobody, have yous read his record and seen who hes fought. beating whyte doesnt mean poo. was just hyped up to sell a domestic fight.

How do you know Whyte wouldn't beat Fury?

Would be similar to Fury Chisora 2

Only if Whyte came in with an illness like Chisora did.

I hope AJ wins but let's be honest the value of that IBF title is absolutely zero since the IBF prematurely /wrongfully stripped the legitimate champion in Tyson Fury

Boxerbeetle wrote:

watsupdoc87 wrote:why do people keed citing the dylon whyte fight when talking about aj, who the fuk had whyte fought before aj , nobody, have yous read his record and seen who hes fought. beating whyte doesnt mean poo. was just hyped up to sell a domestic fight.

How do you know Whyte wouldn't beat Fury?

your right the guy who just beat the champ for 10 years in his own back garden would get battered by whyte inside 3 rounds probably

I just cannot see Martin getting close to Joshua. I fully expect it to be knock out in the first 6 rounds.

Charles Martin has found himself as world champion without fighting anyone. I mean he is literally so untested it's embarrassing. At least Joshua has been rocked by someone that we all agree that will probably be a top 20 fighter in the next 18 months, recovered, and gone on to win. Outside of that, Joshua's CV is still limited, just not as limited as Martin's. The south paw element however, will be interesting.

Also as lightweight as the IBF title is, it is perfect for Joshua though as the IBF rankings are generally pretty weak, and there shouldn't be really anyone for AJ to worry about. Good position to learn his trade further before tackling the likes of Fury/Wilder/Klitchko/Haye.

watsupdoc87 wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

watsupdoc87 wrote:why do people keed citing the dylon whyte fight when talking about aj, who the fuk had whyte fought before aj , nobody, have yous read his record and seen who hes fought. beating whyte doesnt mean poo. was just hyped up to sell a domestic fight.

How do you know Whyte wouldn't beat Fury?

your right the guy who just beat the champ for 10 years in his own back garden would get battered by whyte inside 3 rounds probably

I didn't say anything like that, I just asked how you knew Whyte wouldn't beat Fury. For all we know, Whyte could be the second best British heavyweight behind Joshua

Boxerbeetle wrote:

watsupdoc87 wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:
How do you know Whyte wouldn't beat Fury?

your right the guy who just beat the champ for 10 years in his own back garden would get battered by whyte inside 3 rounds probably

I didn't say anything like that, I just asked how you knew Whyte wouldn't beat Fury. For all we know, Whyte could be the second best British heavyweight behind Joshua

so could sprott be by that logic i suppose

watsupdoc87 wrote:so could sprott be by that logic i suppose

Maybe Gary Cornish is No. 2.

Before anything, massive respect to Charles Martin for fighting Anthony Joshua instead of the worst possible opponend he could find like Wilder does.

I do expect Anthony Joshua to win this fight without much problems, but no matter what, I'll allways respect Charles Martin for doing this move, face the top contenders and not some Duhaupas or Molina or whatever.

Martin has nothing that will trouble AJ, it will be an easy win imo.

Glad they have taken the fight, you have to take these opportunities when they arise. Even if Fury will no doubt give him hell for going after 'his' strap

AJ will smash the gary out of Martin.

Horse wrote:

watsupdoc87 wrote:so could sprott be by that logic i suppose

Maybe Gary Cornish is No. 2.

i knew i left someone out

watsupdoc87 wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

watsupdoc87 wrote:
your right the guy who just beat the champ for 10 years in his own back garden would get battered by whyte inside 3 rounds probably

I didn't say anything like that, I just asked how you knew Whyte wouldn't beat Fury. For all we know, Whyte could be the second best British heavyweight behind Joshua

so could sprott be by that logic i suppose

Which means Audley goes straight in as a re-entry at no1 if he laces the gloves up again.

Yes he can!

milpool wrote:Two novices fighting for the world title...

And a paper world title at that.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

rossij8 wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:
How do you know Whyte wouldn't beat Fury?

Would be similar to Fury Chisora 2

Only if Whyte came in with an illness like Chisora did.

was that true ? I thought something looked badly wrong with Chisora that night but didn't hear any more about it and to be honest all of his perfomances sice the first Fury fight have been lucklustre .

liamlion wrote:

milpool wrote:Two novices fighting for the world title...

And a paper world title at that.

I agree neither should really be there if judged on who they've beaten. But we only kid ourselves that that has any bearing these days; & even if you do beat the man etc or even hoover up all the loose belts, they'll still feck you about with pointless mandatories vs. retreads or strip you 'cos of your nasal hair length or something.

On-topic: I'm with Loftgroov. AJ smashes the Gary out of Martin.