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Re: Joshua Vs Martin Confirmed
Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 21:04
by Tony1244
Badhusker wrote:Tony1244 wrote:It's a Win/Win for Martin.
If he's good, he'll prove himself.
If he's not so good, why should he risk losing to Travis Kauffman in Reading, PA for peanuts?
As others alluded to, this must be Big $$$ for Martin !
Yes Tony, that is why I like the fight so much!. Who wouldn't love to see this fight?
Me too. Seldom do I have HWs on my watch list fight who each other! Tough fight to call for sure, but I reckon Joshua will be favorite.
Re: Joshua Vs Martin Confirmed
Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 22:01
by asdfjkl
foxdog1923 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Before anything, massive respect to Charles Martin for fighting Anthony Joshua.
That should be the other way around. Martin has been chasing Joshua as he believes Joshua will be a good win for him. I'd like to see Joshua win and I think he will but it wouldnt surprise me if Martins decision to pick out Joshua from the bunch pays off for him.
Its all top level opponents right now for Joshua should he win. Will he fight all the best opponents like you say a real champion should? Well it all starts on April 9th.
The other way around ofcourse as well, but Joshua already had my respect thanks to his olympic gold medal, as well as his pro fights. I respect Martin for his decision, offering the belt to the guy who deserves it the most, instead of wasting as much time as possible, looking for the worst possible opponent out there. I'll allways have more respect for Stiverne above Wilder as well.
Re: Joshua Vs Martin Confirmed
Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 22:28
by Tanzio
asdfjkl wrote:foxdog1923 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Before anything, massive respect to Charles Martin for fighting Anthony Joshua.
That should be the other way around. Martin has been chasing Joshua as he believes Joshua will be a good win for him. I'd like to see Joshua win and I think he will but it wouldnt surprise me if Martins decision to pick out Joshua from the bunch pays off for him.
Its all top level opponents right now for Joshua should he win. Will he fight all the best opponents like you say a real champion should? Well it all starts on April 9th.
The other way around ofcourse as well, but Joshua already had my respect thanks to his olympic gold medal, as well as his pro fights. I respect Martin for his decision, offering the belt to the guy who deserves it the most, instead of wasting as much time as possible, looking for the worst possible opponent out there. I'll allways have more respect for Stiverne above Wilder as well.
"Allways" is a very long time. What if the Povetkin fight does happen and then Wilder goes after Fury?
Re: Joshua Vs Martin Confirmed
Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 22:38
by SaadOffTheDeck
Past that, if he doesn't respect wilder why the respect for stiverne?
Re: Joshua Vs Martin Confirmed
Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 22:44
by Tanzio
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Past that, if he doesn't respect wilder why the respect for stiverne?
I think that he respects Stiverne for fighting Wilder while Wilder hasn't fought himself

Re: Joshua Vs Martin Confirmed
Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 00:18
by foxdog1923
asdfjkl wrote:but Joshua already had my respect thanks to his olympic gold medal, as well as his pro fights. I respect Martin for his decision, offering the belt to the guy who deserves it the most, instead of wasting as much time as possible, looking for the worst possible opponent out there. I'll allways have more respect for Stiverne above Wilder as well.
Lol you always mention his gold medal. He won that in amateur boxing obviously with amateur boxing rules, regulations and restrictions. Its great to have a good amateur background but I have seen many Olympic gold medalists struggle in the pro ranks.
I read that they offered it to Parker as well but Parkers management declined stating that basically they couldnt front with the money. I would provide the link but Im still learning how to use this phone properly.
Re: Joshua Vs Martin Confirmed
Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 02:26
by bigman1968
asdfjkl wrote:Before anything, massive respect to Charles Martin for fighting Anthony Joshua. Unlike Wilder, who fought guys that lost several fights before, like Molina or Duhaupas, Martin actually offers the best possible opponend out there the titlefight straight away.
If Wilder loses against Povetkin I'll allways respect Martin over Wilder for simply fighting the best possible opponent out there, just like the Klitschko's allways did.
I expect AJ to win within 5 rounds, yes, AJ showed a worser show as expected against Whyte, but Whyte would probably win against Wilder or/and Martin.
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/h ... ight/51211
That's the reason. Martin's team knows he was very lucky to get the belt, and he can actually lose it in his first defence, to anybody.
So why not to sell it for maximum price???
Re: Joshua Vs Martin Confirmed
Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 03:14
by foxdog1923
scousemouse wrote:has AJ ever fought a southpaw?
I checked AJs highlights to be sure and no, he hasnt fought an accomplished southpaw like Martin. So I think theres defintely a styles clash that seems to favour Martin in that AJ hasnt fought a decent pro southpaw and Martin has fought many right handers.
Re: Joshua Vs Martin Confirmed
Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 04:12
by dapidran
jont wrote:for some reason the whole scenario reminds me of Tony Tucker's short reign.... Hope Martin wins the fight though... and that Joshua will come back strong....
How??
Re: Joshua Vs Martin Confirmed
Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 12:28
by asdfjkl
foxdog1923 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:but Joshua already had my respect thanks to his olympic gold medal, as well as his pro fights. I respect Martin for his decision, offering the belt to the guy who deserves it the most, instead of wasting as much time as possible, looking for the worst possible opponent out there. I'll allways have more respect for Stiverne above Wilder as well.
Lol you always mention his gold medal. He won that in amateur boxing obviously with amateur boxing rules, regulations and restrictions. Its great to have a good amateur background but I have seen many Olympic gold medalists struggle in the pro ranks.
I read that they offered it to Parker as well but Parkers management declined stating that basically they couldnt front with the money. I would provide the link but Im still learning how to use this phone properly.
Klitschko, Povetkin, Joshua, they all won Olympic gold and they are all doing pretty well, there do exist exceptions, I agree, but overall olympic gold winners are doing pretty well. At least better as bronze winners, with a few exceptions there again but ok.
Re: Joshua Vs Martin Confirmed
Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 12:41
by dempseyfire
Martin will put in a game performance but will get bludgeoned. He's one of the few HWs who fights more stiff and upright than Joshua!
Re: Joshua Vs Martin Confirmed
Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 13:23
by asdfjkl
bigman1968 wrote:asdfjkl wrote:Before anything, massive respect to Charles Martin for fighting Anthony Joshua. Unlike Wilder, who fought guys that lost several fights before, like Molina or Duhaupas, Martin actually offers the best possible opponend out there the titlefight straight away.
If Wilder loses against Povetkin I'll allways respect Martin over Wilder for simply fighting the best possible opponent out there, just like the Klitschko's allways did.
I expect AJ to win within 5 rounds, yes, AJ showed a worser show as expected against Whyte, but Whyte would probably win against Wilder or/and Martin.
https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/h ... ight/51211
That's the reason. Martin's team knows he was very lucky to get the belt, and he can actually lose it in his first defence, to anybody.
So why not to sell it for maximum price???
I know and agree, but I still think Martin is better as that teacher called Molina isn't he?
He can fight Dominic Breazeale if he likes, I don't think that's a big risk is it?
Also, he can simply wait for a year and train behind the scenes during that year and ask for and even bigger bid at the end of that year.
*or well, could ;)
Re: Joshua Vs Martin Confirmed
Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 23:02
by Taki...
Martin's definitely cashing in here. Outside of Wlad and Povetkin, Joshua is where the money is in the HW division.
Bound to be a rematch clause too, so it's double bubble. Plus theres the outside chance Joshua's knee will give way and Martin will win!