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caldo2025 wrote:You Thurman Supporters are pathetic. He's obviously not happy with the camp he's having and his weight is probably not where it should be at this point in the game. This move is the oldest in the game and now becoming a common place in Boxing and it's pathetic. You've got a stiff neck? Poor baby. He's a pussy for life in my book and I was in his corner in this one but now i hope Porter rips his head off. Thurman's glass jaw has been trying to make an appearance for years and i hope it has a coming out party when he finally grow a couple hairy ones and steps through the ropes.

So there is no possibility he's actually injured?
Even if it's an injury where the doctor tells you to take a week off, it could completely fornicate up your 6 week camp.

Even if he isn't injured, postponing a fight makes you a "pussy for life"?

You used to be in Thurman's corner ... . If you're in someone's corner, and let this turn you so sour to them, you were never in their corner, or you're an idiot prone to negative overreactions. Also, the insinuation that Thurman has a glass jaw is plain stupid. Thurman has been cracked, recovered, and came back stronger.

Tanzio wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

Tanzio wrote: . . . Proclaims the tough guy playing his keyboard, viciously.

a pussy like you wouldn't find a thing wrong with a bitch move like this and that doesn't surprise me.

. . . posts The Tough Guy like The Phantom of the Opera in the basement apartment of his grandmother's house.

You really broke everyone up with that that witty outtake. I'd love to wager a few hundred bucks and compare W2's with ya Mr. Success. Any interest in that or you just want to continue working on your comedy here with the same old tired unoriginal technique. Come on, it will be fun.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:You Thurman Supporters are pathetic. He's obviously not happy with the camp he's having and his weight is probably not where it should be at this point in the game. This move is the oldest in the game and now becoming a common place in Boxing and it's pathetic. You've got a stiff neck? Poor baby. He's a pussy for life in my book and I was in his corner in this one but now i hope Porter rips his head off. Thurman's glass jaw has been trying to make an appearance for years and i hope it has a coming out party when he finally grow a couple hairy ones and steps through the ropes.

So there is no possibility he's actually injured?
Even if it's an injury where the doctor tells you to take a week off, it could completely eff up your 6 week camp.

Even if he isn't injured, postponing a fight makes you a "pussy for life"?

You used to be in Thurman's corner ... . If you're in someone's corner, and let this turn you so sour to them, you were never in their corner, or you're an idiot prone to negative overreactions. Also, the insinuation that Thurman has a glass jaw is plain stupid. Thurman has been cracked, recovered, and came back stronger.

Ok, i'm man enough to admit that my reaction may have been a bit harsh. I'm actually really pissed off about this fight being postponed and from everything i've read from the information available, this was a nothing accident. The same type of incident with Wlad's calf and we now know the real reason he postponed that fight was because he wasn't ready and still wasn't ready.

If he's legitimately hurt than i'm a jerk. Plain and simple. If it we somehow find out that he's being a pussy then i mean every word of it. Boxing needs this fight. The PBC needs this fight and it's immense to the success of this production. We don't have much on the calendar at this point to be excited about and this fight has been YEARS in the making.

I''ll temper my frustration until i'm a bit more informed so your criticism makes sense. So have fun with it, you're probably correct.

caldo2025 wrote:Ok, i'm man enough to admit that my reaction may have been a bit harsh. I'm actually really pissed off about this fight being postponed and from everything i've read from the information available, this was a nothing accident. The same type of incident with Wlad's calf and we now know the real reason he postponed that fight was because he wasn't ready and still wasn't ready.

If he's legitimately hurt than i'm a jerk. Plain and simple. If it we somehow find out that he's being a pussy then i mean every word of it. Boxing needs this fight. The PBC needs this fight and it's immense to the success of this production. We don't have much on the calendar at this point to be excited about and this fight has been YEARS in the making.

I''ll temper my frustration until i'm a bit more informed so your criticism makes sense. So have fun with it, you're probably correct.

Don't feel bad for feeling like Thurman is ducking Porter because even Kenny Porter (Shawn's dad) doesn't believe KT was injured and has asked to see the Doctor's injury report and is even requesting to meet with Haymon to discuss whether or not the injury is real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF58bBdP8_w

caldo2025 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:
a pussy like you wouldn't find a thing wrong with a bitch move like this and that doesn't surprise me.

. . . posts The Tough Guy like The Phantom of the Opera in the basement apartment of his grandmother's house.

You really broke everyone up with that that witty outtake. I'd love to wager a few hundred bucks and compare W2's with ya Mr. Success. Any interest in that or you just want to continue working on your comedy here with the same old tired unoriginal technique. Come on, it will be fun.

Tanzinia does not have a job. He just lurks on her insulting people with witty comments all day.

caldo2025 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:
a pussy like you wouldn't find a thing wrong with a bitch move like this and that doesn't surprise me.

. . . posts The Tough Guy like The Phantom of the Opera in the basement apartment of his grandmother's house.

You really broke everyone up with that that witty outtake. I'd love to wager a few hundred bucks and compare W2's with ya Mr. Success. Any interest in that or you just want to continue working on your comedy here with the same old tired unoriginal technique. Come on, it will be fun.

lost it much, Tough Guy?

Lancenix wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

Tanzio wrote: . . . posts The Tough Guy like The Phantom of the Opera in the basement apartment of his grandmother's house.

You really broke everyone up with that that witty outtake. I'd love to wager a few hundred bucks and compare W2's with ya Mr. Success. Any interest in that or you just want to continue working on your comedy here with the same old tired unoriginal technique. Come on, it will be fun.

Tanzinia does not have a job. He just lurks on her insulting people with witty comments all day.

as opposed to you repeating the same tired sh!t day after day, right Farcenix?

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

lefty wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

No, I'm not alleging anything. I'm simply going by the fact that he is cleared to continue training therefore if he can train then he can fight right now too.

He isnt cleared to train now though. It said he would be expected to be cleared to resume training in the coming weeks which makes sense for a month or so delay.

I don't see why he's getting so much flack over this, it's just a delay, nobody has said the fight won't be rescheduled.

I think it's fair enough that a fighter doesn't want to go into a fight having been unable to train properly

Exactly.

It's also possible that in fact there are other issues going on in camp, he might be struggling with weight, or other injuries unrelated.

I've no problems with fights being delayed if a fighter isn't going to be on best form for a big fight.

speaking generally, Thurman's career to date suggests in my opinion that he is less than the sum of his parts, in boxing terms, and i suspect he will always be so.

Tanzio wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

Tanzio wrote: . . . posts The Tough Guy like The Phantom of the Opera in the basement apartment of his grandmother's house.

You really broke everyone up with that that witty outtake. I'd love to wager a few hundred bucks and compare W2's with ya Mr. Success. Any interest in that or you just want to continue working on your comedy here with the same old tired unoriginal technique. Come on, it will be fun.

lost it much, Tough Guy?

Pussy out of a challenge much, Tough Guy? Did you get in minor fender bender too? Cowards love Cowards, I guess. Contact me if grow a set, Tanzio. We can knock it down to $100 if that's easier for you?

jamesmcdonnell wrote:It's also possible that in fact there are other issues going on in camp, he might be struggling with weight, or other injuries unrelated.

I've no problems with fights being delayed if a fighter isn't going to be on best form for a big fight.

Maybe i'm old school or it's a culture thing but i find your statement above to be ridiculous. A boxer's ability to postpone a fight is there for EXTREME cases like cuts or broken bones. It's not supposed to be used the way these boxers are now using it. Hey, don't worry about having a bad camp, we can always cancel it and reschedule. Or never fight at all. If you're weight is off, just postpone it. Just look at the fights that have postponed in the last year.

Promoters have got to start holding these boxers accountable. Boxers should be fined heavily for postponements of any kind, warranted or made up like in thurman's case. If there's no downside to it, you're just going to see it happen more. It's bad for boxing. it's bad for TV. It's bad for fans. It's horrible for the opposing boxers who end up losing time in their career they can never get back. that window is small for a boxer and this sort of thing F's with that balance

caldo2025 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:
You really broke everyone up with that that witty outtake. I'd love to wager a few hundred bucks and compare W2's with ya Mr. Success. Any interest in that or you just want to continue working on your comedy here with the same old tired unoriginal technique. Come on, it will be fun.

lost it much, Tough Guy?

Pussy out of a challenge much, Tough Guy? Did you get in minor fender bender too? Cowards love Cowards, I guess. Contact me if grow a set, Tanzio. We can knock it down to $100 if that's easier for you?

you continue to top yourself, Tough Guy. You admitted how utterly lame your original post was, though you were not "man enough" to admit it directly to me.

You have a serious problem with a little thing called thinking before you post. You still come off like an emotionally immature dude living in your parents' or grandparents' basement apartment, no matter how much Monopoly money you've accumulated down there, making someone else wealthy.

Or, were you going to include your K1s with your W2, Tough Guy?

caldo2025 wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:It's also possible that in fact there are other issues going on in camp, he might be struggling with weight, or other injuries unrelated.

I've no problems with fights being delayed if a fighter isn't going to be on best form for a big fight.

Maybe i'm old school or it's a culture thing but i find your statement above to be ridiculous. A boxer's ability to postpone a fight is there for EXTREME cases like cuts or broken bones. It's not supposed to be used the way these boxers are now using it. Hey, don't worry about having a bad camp, we can always cancel it and reschedule. Or never fight at all. If you're weight is off, just postpone it. Just look at the fights that have postponed in the last year.

Promoters have got to start holding these boxers accountable. Boxers should be fined heavily for postponements of any kind, warranted or made up like in thurman's case. If there's no downside to it, you're just going to see it happen more. It's bad for boxing. it's bad for TV. It's bad for fans. It's horrible for the opposing boxers who end up losing time in their career they can never get back. that window is small for a boxer and this sort of thing F's with that balance

If a boxer is injured prior to a fight, especially in top level professional contests like Porter v Sometimes is, I consider it his responsibility to report it, given the amount of money being gambled legally on the event.

If Manny was actually injured prior to the FMJ fight and both camps were aware of it, the entire production should face consequences (both teams, the promoters) for misleading the public in general and failing to reveal vital information necessary to assess how to place legal wagers.

If Thurman was actually injured enough to lose training time, he did the responsible thing by reporting it and having the fight postponed temporarily. I want to see a fight with both combatants as close to 100% as within reason, not a choreographed dance exhibition.

I am not a gambler, btw.

Tanzio wrote:If a boxer is injured prior to a fight, especially in top level professional contests like Porter v Sometimes is, I consider it his responsibility to report it, given the amount of money being gambled legally on the event.

If Manny was actually injured prior to the FMJ fight and both camps were aware of it, the entire production should face consequences (both teams, the promoters) for misleading the public in general and failing to reveal vital information necessary to assess how to place legal wagers.

If Thurman was actually injured enough to lose training time, he did the responsible thing by reporting it and having the fight postponed temporarily. I want to see a fight with both combatants as close to 100% as within reason, not a choreographed dance exhibition.

I am not a gambler, btw.

That's just it though, Manny's lied and told so many lies, Arum too that no one knows if they are telling the truth about his Fake Shoulder Injury.

Manny wasn't injured, never had surgery and NO Saltwater did not heal him but if anyone believes that Mayweather Promotions or Haymon should be held accountable for the lies that Manny Pacquiao, Top Rank/Bob Arum and Freddie Roach have told the public then they have zero objectivity and are stupid as hell for believing them.

Tanzio wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:It's also possible that in fact there are other issues going on in camp, he might be struggling with weight, or other injuries unrelated.

I've no problems with fights being delayed if a fighter isn't going to be on best form for a big fight.

Maybe i'm old school or it's a culture thing but i find your statement above to be ridiculous. A boxer's ability to postpone a fight is there for EXTREME cases like cuts or broken bones. It's not supposed to be used the way these boxers are now using it. Hey, don't worry about having a bad camp, we can always cancel it and reschedule. Or never fight at all. If you're weight is off, just postpone it. Just look at the fights that have postponed in the last year.

Promoters have got to start holding these boxers accountable. Boxers should be fined heavily for postponements of any kind, warranted or made up like in thurman's case. If there's no downside to it, you're just going to see it happen more. It's bad for boxing. it's bad for TV. It's bad for fans. It's horrible for the opposing boxers who end up losing time in their career they can never get back. that window is small for a boxer and this sort of thing F's with that balance

If a boxer is injured prior to a fight, especially in top level professional contests like Porter v Sometimes is, I consider it his responsibility to report it, given the amount of money being gambled legally on the event.

If Manny was actually injured prior to the FMJ fight and both camps were aware of it, the entire production should face consequences (both teams, the promoters) for misleading the public in general and failing to reveal vital information necessary to assess how to place legal wagers.

If Thurman was actually injured enough to lose training time, he did the responsible thing by reporting it and having the fight postponed temporarily. I want to see a fight with both combatants as close to 100% as within reason, not a choreographed dance exhibition.

I am not a gambler, btw.

The problem is, they don't want the opposing camp to know if they are carrying an injury.

If I've got an injury to the ribs from sparring on the left side, I'm not going to want to let my opponent know that for obvious reasons.

I agree however that it is better that a fight is postponed than a poor fight as a consequence of one fighter being underprepared.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Tanzio wrote:If a boxer is injured prior to a fight, especially in top level professional contests like Porter v Sometimes is, I consider it his responsibility to report it, given the amount of money being gambled legally on the event.

If Manny was actually injured prior to the FMJ fight and both camps were aware of it, the entire production should face consequences (both teams, the promoters) for misleading the public in general and failing to reveal vital information necessary to assess how to place legal wagers.

If Thurman was actually injured enough to lose training time, he did the responsible thing by reporting it and having the fight postponed temporarily. I want to see a fight with both combatants as close to 100% as within reason, not a choreographed dance exhibition.

I am not a gambler, btw.

That's just it though, Manny's lied and told so many lies, Arum too that no one knows if they are telling the truth about his Fake Shoulder Injury.

Manny wasn't injured, never had surgery and NO Saltwater did not heal him but if anyone believes that Mayweather Promotions or Haymon should be held accountable for the lies that Manny Pacquiao, Top Rank/Bob Arum and Freddie Roach have told the public then they have zero objectivity and are stupid as hell for believing them.

....and the hates go on on...and the hate goes on on!

Baby Face Finster wrote:....and the hates go on on...and the hate goes on on!

Call it what you want, Manny said Saltwater healed him, that's hate?? No, it's called truth.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:....and the hates go on on...and the hate goes on on!

Call it what you want, Manny said Saltwater healed him, that's hate?? No, it's called truth.

That is weird if Manny never had any surgery or anything for his shoulder after his fight with Floyd. Manny is a weirdo plain and simple. All he had to do prior to the Floyd fight is reveal a shoulder injury and a request for a shot or whatever before the fight and he did not. He is just stupid. I really can't wait for him to just go away. He is taking on Bradley Jr. in a fight that no one gives a rats ass about. Manny is just done.

Lancenix wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:....and the hates go on on...and the hate goes on on!

Call it what you want, Manny said Saltwater healed him, that's hate?? No, it's called truth.

That is weird if Manny never had any surgery or anything for his shoulder after his fight with Floyd. Manny is a weirdo plain and simple. All he had to do prior to the Floyd fight is reveal a shoulder injury and a request for a shot or whatever before the fight and he did not. He is just stupid. I really can't wait for him to just go away. He is taking on Bradley Jr. in a fight that no one gives a rats ass about. Manny is just done.

Manny had surgery, he just didn't take any PT after and swam in the ocean instead to recoup. And he did ask for a Terodol shot before the flight with Floyd but Floyd said "no way" while on the phone with an illegal IV in his arm. So this wasn't very factual above.

Say what you want about Manny and the shitstorm he's in now but he could have easily postponed the fight to get his shoulder attended to but he sucked it up and fought the fight. Integrity move there and also a money grab.

Today's fighters need to have some negative repercussions for postponing a big fight like this. X-ray should be shared with the other camp proving the injuries were worthy. Most postponements were handled this way in the past but now boxers don't have to prove a thing. It's bullshit. This fight was too important for Thurman to cancel on a bullshit injury that he hasn't substantiated. If he's able to prove it and shows the evidence than I'm good. But if not, Thurman should be called out for the coward he is. No ones 100% after camp. It's hell for most boxers. Just like training camp in football. You suck it up and do ur best unless you're a pussy who's unsure of himself. Thurman is a pussy unless otherwise confirmed in my book.

How we went from Thurman Porter to the Phantom of the Opera I don't know.
Good chance it will be rescheduled sooner rather than later, it's a good match up.

They'll fight in 2 or 3 months.

Sounds reasonable

caldo2025 wrote:

Lancenix wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Call it what you want, Manny said Saltwater healed him, that's hate?? No, it's called truth.

That is weird if Manny never had any surgery or anything for his shoulder after his fight with Floyd. Manny is a weirdo plain and simple. All he had to do prior to the Floyd fight is reveal a shoulder injury and a request for a shot or whatever before the fight and he did not. He is just stupid. I really can't wait for him to just go away. He is taking on Bradley Jr. in a fight that no one gives a rats ass about. Manny is just done.

Manny had surgery, he just didn't take any PT after and swam in the ocean instead to recoup. And he did ask for a Terodol shot before the flight with Floyd but Floyd said "no way" while on the phone with an illegal IV in his arm. So this wasn't very factual above.

Say what you want about Manny and the shitstorm he's in now but he could have easily postponed the fight to get his shoulder attended to but he sucked it up and fought the fight. Integrity move there and also a money grab.

Today's fighters need to have some negative repercussions for postponing a big fight like this. X-ray should be shared with the other camp proving the injuries were worthy. Most postponements were handled this way in the past but now boxers don't have to prove a thing. It's bullshit. This fight was too important for Thurman to cancel on a bullshit injury that he hasn't substantiated. If he's able to prove it and shows the evidence than I'm good. But if not, Thurman should be called out for the coward he is. No ones 100% after camp. It's hell for most boxers. Just like training camp in football. You suck it up and do ur best unless you're a pussy who's unsure of himself. Thurman is a pussy unless otherwise confirmed in my book.

All BS, I guarantee the truth will come out about his FAKE shoulder injury, it wasn't hurting him in the 4th or 6th nor was it hurting him when he was in that park throwing multiple combos at the air.

Manny is a Liar and they can spin it any way they want, he scammed all his fans.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

Lancenix wrote:
That is weird if Manny never had any surgery or anything for his shoulder after his fight with Floyd. Manny is a weirdo plain and simple. All he had to do prior to the Floyd fight is reveal a shoulder injury and a request for a shot or whatever before the fight and he did not. He is just stupid. I really can't wait for him to just go away. He is taking on Bradley Jr. in a fight that no one gives a rats ass about. Manny is just done.

Manny had surgery, he just didn't take any PT after and swam in the ocean instead to recoup. And he did ask for a Terodol shot before the flight with Floyd but Floyd said "no way" while on the phone with an illegal IV in his arm. So this wasn't very factual above.

Say what you want about Manny and the shitstorm he's in now but he could have easily postponed the fight to get his shoulder attended to but he sucked it up and fought the fight. Integrity move there and also a money grab.

Today's fighters need to have some negative repercussions for postponing a big fight like this. X-ray should be shared with the other camp proving the injuries were worthy. Most postponements were handled this way in the past but now boxers don't have to prove a thing. It's bullshit. This fight was too important for Thurman to cancel on a bullshit injury that he hasn't substantiated. If he's able to prove it and shows the evidence than I'm good. But if not, Thurman should be called out for the coward he is. No ones 100% after camp. It's hell for most boxers. Just like training camp in football. You suck it up and do ur best unless you're a pussy who's unsure of himself. Thurman is a pussy unless otherwise confirmed in my book.

All BS, I guarantee the truth will come out about his FAKE shoulder injury, it wasn't hurting him in the 4th or 6th nor was it hurting him when he was in that park throwing multiple combos at the air.

Manny is a Liar and they can spin it any way they want, he scammed all his fans.

IMO, they both knew, waltzed the waltz, and planned to generate a rematch based on the injury. Then the house of cards collapsed due to IVs, denial of pain killers, and most importantly the stench of a rotten show, wreaking of fraud.