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Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 21 May 2016, 06:17
by AntonS
Ouch! Circus lost. I bet couple of punch counters ain't gonna be counting them in future Duco events :lol: :lol:

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 21 May 2016, 07:58
by convict
Was a ok fight, However there is no way in the world Parker can compete with Joshua - not a chance in the world. How easy was Takam tagging Parker through out the fight, If that had of been Joshua then Parker would have hit the canvas all day long.

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 21 May 2016, 08:05
by Like a Boss
Really gutsy win by Parker. Big step up in class and I'm sure he learned a lot and at only 24 has time to implement it.

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 21 May 2016, 08:15
by Grailer
Parker made the fight so hard on himself.

He practically punched himself out in the middle rounds
trying to knock out Takam .

Wouldnt have been surprised if the judges gave fight to
Takam or Draw tbh

Also obvious counter puncher so block the counters or counter
the counters make him pay for missing.

Joe Definately needs to work on defense not offense

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 21 May 2016, 08:16
by convict
Like a Boss wrote:Really gutsy win by Parker. Big step up in class and I'm sure he learned a lot and at only 24 has time to implement it.
He is going to need at least 5 more fights against top 10 HW before facing Joshua. Takam was hitting Parker way to easy and Parkers power had no effect on Takam at all. Stepping up to face Joshua next would be suicide hope his trainer knows that and works out on ironing out them flaws.

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 21 May 2016, 08:22
by Like a Boss
convict wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:Really gutsy win by Parker. Big step up in class and I'm sure he learned a lot and at only 24 has time to implement it.
He is going to need at least 5 more fights against top 10 HW before facing Joshua. Takam was hitting Parker way to easy and Parkers power had no effect on Takam at all. Stepping up to face Joshua next would be suicide hope his trainer knows that and works out on ironing out them flaws.
5 more fights against top 10 heavyweights?

How many recent heavyweights have fought 5 of the top 10 heavyweights in the world, and anything like close together? Name us a few who have done that??

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 21 May 2016, 08:23
by foxdog1923
convict wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:Really gutsy win by Parker. Big step up in class and I'm sure he learned a lot and at only 24 has time to implement it.
He is going to need at least 5 more fights against top 10 HW before facing Joshua. Takam was hitting Parker way to easy and Parkers power had no effect on Takam at all. Stepping up to face Joshua next would be suicide hope his trainer knows that and works out on ironing out them flaws.
Yeah I wasn't happy with Parkers fight tonight either but he did what he needed to get the win and he's still young but I wanted a KO.

Talk now is Joshua next but I'll like to see him develop more after tonight as he might not yet be ready.

Takam is one tough customer. I gotta ask, is Takam better than Whyte and Martin?

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 21 May 2016, 08:25
by convict
Ok maybe not 5 fights, But no way is he ready to fight Joshua.

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 21 May 2016, 08:28
by convict
foxdog1923 wrote:
convict wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:Really gutsy win by Parker. Big step up in class and I'm sure he learned a lot and at only 24 has time to implement it.
He is going to need at least 5 more fights against top 10 HW before facing Joshua. Takam was hitting Parker way to easy and Parkers power had no effect on Takam at all. Stepping up to face Joshua next would be suicide hope his trainer knows that and works out on ironing out them flaws.
Yeah I wasn't happy with Parkers fight tonight either but he did what he needed to get the win and he's still young but I wanted a KO.

Talk now is Joshua next but I'll like to see him develop more after tonight as he might not yet be ready.

Takam is one tough customer. I gotta ask, is Takam better than Whyte and Martin?
I think Whyte would beat Takam and Martin.

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 21 May 2016, 08:40
by foxdog1923
convict wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote:
convict wrote:
He is going to need at least 5 more fights against top 10 HW before facing Joshua. Takam was hitting Parker way to easy and Parkers power had no effect on Takam at all. Stepping up to face Joshua next would be suicide hope his trainer knows that and works out on ironing out them flaws.
Yeah I wasn't happy with Parkers fight tonight either but he did what he needed to get the win and he's still young but I wanted a KO.

Talk now is Joshua next but I'll like to see him develop more after tonight as he might not yet be ready.

Takam is one tough customer. I gotta ask, is Takam better than Whyte and Martin?
I think Whyte would beat Takam and Martin.
Yeah I'm probably giving Martin too much respect.

Whyte vs Joshua was a good clash but the verdicts still pretty much out about Joshua's opponents for me. Parker now beating Takam has IMO fought a lot of experienced, proven-against-a-big-name-fighters. I look at Joshuas opponents and it's hard to say they're proven. I am biased though as I'm a BIG Parker fan.

I don't want to see Joshua Parker this year after that but Parkers promoters confident and I'm wondering why?

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 21 May 2016, 08:42
by jezzamundo
foxdog1923 wrote:
convict wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:Really gutsy win by Parker. Big step up in class and I'm sure he learned a lot and at only 24 has time to implement it.
He is going to need at least 5 more fights against top 10 HW before facing Joshua. Takam was hitting Parker way to easy and Parkers power had no effect on Takam at all. Stepping up to face Joshua next would be suicide hope his trainer knows that and works out on ironing out them flaws.
Yeah I wasn't happy with Parkers fight tonight either but he did what he needed to get the win and he's still young but I wanted a KO.

Talk now is Joshua next but I'll like to see him develop more after tonight as he might not yet be ready.

Takam is one tough customer. I gotta ask, is Takam better than Whyte and Martin?
Takam is definitely better than Martin. I think Takam is a better boxer and fitter than Whyte, but Whyte is the more powerful and explosive - if it were him landing those shots, Parker would likely have been stopped.

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 21 May 2016, 08:49
by foxdog1923
jezzamundo wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote:
convict wrote:
He is going to need at least 5 more fights against top 10 HW before facing Joshua. Takam was hitting Parker way to easy and Parkers power had no effect on Takam at all. Stepping up to face Joshua next would be suicide hope his trainer knows that and works out on ironing out them flaws.
Yeah I wasn't happy with Parkers fight tonight either but he did what he needed to get the win and he's still young but I wanted a KO.

Talk now is Joshua next but I'll like to see him develop more after tonight as he might not yet be ready.

Takam is one tough customer. I gotta ask, is Takam better than Whyte and Martin?
Takam is definitely better than Martin. I think Takam is a better boxer and fitter than Whyte, but Whyte is the more powerful and explosive - if it were him landing those shots, Parker would likely have been stopped.
Yeah its just not champion quality to get tagged like that. Parker might need to bring in another trainer because Parker was improving his boxing with every outing but the improving stopped at Bergman. Obviously stepping up has something makes it hard but as they say there's always room for improvement and I surely there's room for another trainer. Stamina and defendive specialist wanted.

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 21 May 2016, 11:26
by Grailer
foxdog1923 wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote: Yeah I wasn't happy with Parkers fight tonight either but he did what he needed to get the win and he's still young but I wanted a KO.

Talk now is Joshua next but I'll like to see him develop more after tonight as he might not yet be ready.

Takam is one tough customer. I gotta ask, is Takam better than Whyte and Martin?
Takam is definitely better than Martin. I think Takam is a better boxer and fitter than Whyte, but Whyte is the more powerful and explosive - if it were him landing those shots, Parker would likely have been stopped.
Yeah its just not champion quality to get tagged like that. Parker might need to bring in another trainer because Parker was improving his boxing with every outing but the improving stopped at Bergman. Obviously stepping up has something makes it hard but as they say there's always room for improvement and I surely there's room for another trainer. Stamina and defendive specialist wanted.
Well Some could argue Parkers trainer Barry should've seen these holes in Parkers defence and fixed them ages ago.

It's almost like they have a offense is best defense style which nearly failed when Parker ran outta gas after 5 rounds.

Also I argue that Joshua cannot pressure Parker as much as
Takam did which makes it a totally different fight

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 21 May 2016, 20:22
by foxdog1923
Grailer wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote:
jezzamundo wrote:
Takam is definitely better than Martin. I think Takam is a better boxer and fitter than Whyte, but Whyte is the more powerful and explosive - if it were him landing those shots, Parker would likely have been stopped.
Yeah its just not champion quality to get tagged like that. Parker might need to bring in another trainer because Parker was improving his boxing with every outing but the improving stopped at Bergman. Obviously stepping up has something makes it hard but as they say there's always room for improvement and I surely there's room for another trainer. Stamina and defendive specialist wanted.
Well Some could argue Parkers trainer Barry should've seen these holes in Parkers defence and fixed them ages ago.

It's almost like they have a offense is best defense style which nearly failed when Parker ran outta gas after 5 rounds.

Also I argue that Joshua cannot pressure Parker as much as
Takam did which makes it a totally different fight
I think Barry's done a great job but when they review their current situation, I hope they make the correct changes or additions to his training.

Agree Joshua Parker would be a different fight.

I wasn't happy with the fight but a fight like that against a proven experienced fighter like Takam who IS in great shape, would improve Parkers boxing no doubt. Even though I wanted to see Takam get knocked out, in the end I have nothing but respect for Takam. I like to see more of Takams fights against big names only.

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 22 May 2016, 04:18
by Cutman Scabbers
Joshua hasn't fought anyone at Takam's level, has he?

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 22 May 2016, 05:01
by foxdog1923
Cutman Scabbers wrote:Joshua hasn't fought anyone at Takam's level, has he?
Well that's the thing, neither Whyte or Martin have had 30 professional fights.

Whytes respectable opponents are Minto and Joshua in his 16 fights. Only 2 fights, 1 against a experienced opponent and a champion.

Martin respectable opponent has only been Joshua. 23 fights with a draw against someone.

Joshuas respectable opponents are Martin and Whyte. Thats it! However Joshua is a champion.

Parkers respectable opponents is quite impressive. He's fought a lot of experienced PROVEN fighters. Minto, Botha, Sherman Williams, Meehan and now Takam.

Parkers had a tougher climb then Joshua. No doubt. Whether Joshua has fought anyone as good as Takam, I'd have to say no BUT I think Joshua could handle it no problem.

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 22 May 2016, 05:55
by dberry
Certainly puts duco's bullshit "calling out" of Lucas Browne (along with the put downs rubbishing of Browne) into perspective, this fight. Parker may have a big future ahead of him, and I'm certainly hoping he does, but he has a big way to go before he's at that stage, unless duco were just hoping to cash out on Joseph Parker when they called Browne out!?

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 22 May 2016, 06:05
by foxdog1923
dberry wrote:Certainly puts duco's bullshit "calling out" of Lucas Browne (along with the put downs rubbishing of Browne) into perspective, this fight. Parker may have a big future ahead of him, and I'm certainly hoping he does, but he has a big way to go before he's at that stage, unless duco were just hoping to cash out on Joseph Parker when they called Browne out!?
I don't think they'll do that again. Browne is beneath them now.

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 22 May 2016, 06:45
by Brute
foxdog1923 wrote:
dberry wrote:Certainly puts duco's bullshit "calling out" of Lucas Browne (along with the put downs rubbishing of Browne) into perspective, this fight. Parker may have a big future ahead of him, and I'm certainly hoping he does, but he has a big way to go before he's at that stage, unless duco were just hoping to cash out on Joseph Parker when they called Browne out!?
I don't think they'll do that again. Browne is beneath them now.
Takam lost to Gregory Tony and Towers beat Tony. Don't get too carried away.

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 22 May 2016, 06:57
by foxdog1923
Brute wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote:
dberry wrote:Certainly puts duco's bullshit "calling out" of Lucas Browne (along with the put downs rubbishing of Browne) into perspective, this fight. Parker may have a big future ahead of him, and I'm certainly hoping he does, but he has a big way to go before he's at that stage, unless duco were just hoping to cash out on Joseph Parker when they called Browne out!?
I don't think they'll do that again. Browne is beneath them now.
Takam lost to Gregory Tony and Towers beat Tony. Don't get too carried away.
Carried away about Browne?

My comments are reasonable as I honestly don't think they'll look at Browne who's serving a drug cheat punishment isn't he?

They're looking up as you do with an undefeated fighter.

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 22 May 2016, 07:05
by dberry
foxdog1923 wrote:
dberry wrote:Certainly puts duco's bullshit "calling out" of Lucas Browne (along with the put downs rubbishing of Browne) into perspective, this fight. Parker may have a big future ahead of him, and I'm certainly hoping he does, but he has a big way to go before he's at that stage, unless duco were just hoping to cash out on Joseph Parker when they called Browne out!?
I don't think they'll do that again. Browne is beneath them now.
:lol:

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 22 May 2016, 07:18
by foxdog1923
dberry wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote:
dberry wrote:Certainly puts duco's bullshit "calling out" of Lucas Browne (along with the put downs rubbishing of Browne) into perspective, this fight. Parker may have a big future ahead of him, and I'm certainly hoping he does, but he has a big way to go before he's at that stage, unless duco were just hoping to cash out on Joseph Parker when they called Browne out!?
I don't think they'll do that again. Browne is beneath them now.
:lol:
Is Browne allowed to fight now? It was quite funny how, REALLY FUNNY, how I was one of the first here to congrat Aussie on the Aussie board on their first ever World Heavyweight Champion which I was genuinely wrapt for. Then Browne gets busted?? LOL So funny the first ever champ of....yeah, anyway too funny :)

Anyway, seriously now. Talks with Parkers direction and in relation to calling out as thats what we're discussing, no I don't think there's any Browne Parker fight. I wouldn't mind seeing it as I think Parker would be doing Browne more of a favour if he did choose to fight Browne who's in a bit of trouble career wise obviously and Parker would be pulling him up if he did agree.

Parkers now the mandatory challenger to the IBF and is soon to be officially ranked no.1 contender in the IBF. The talk has always been Joshua, there was talks of the popular Lucas Browne for about a month but then they went for a guy named Carlos Takam.

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 22 May 2016, 07:30
by dberry
foxdog1923 wrote:
dberry wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote: I don't think they'll do that again. Browne is beneath them now.
:lol:
Is Browne allowed to fight now? It was quite funny how, REALLY FUNNY, how I was one of the first here to congrat Aussie on the Aussie board on their first ever World Heavyweight Champion which I was genuinely wrapt for. Then Browne gets busted?? LOL So funny the first ever champ of....yeah, anyway too funny :)

Anyway, seriously now. Talks with Parkers direction and in relation to calling out as thats what we're discussing, no I don't think there's any Browne Parker fight. I wouldn't mind seeing it as I think Parker would be doing Browne more of a favour if he did choose to fight Browne who's in a bit of trouble career wise obviously and Parker would be pulling him up if he did agree.

Parkers now the mandatory challenger to the IBF and is soon to be officially ranked no.1 contender in the IBF. The talk has always been Joshua, there was talks of the popular Lucas Browne for about a month but then they went for a guy named Carlos Takam.
Let's forget about what's happened to Lucas Browne with the positive drug fiasco, for a moment, off the back of Parker's performance last night, how do you see Parker vs Browne panning out if they were to have fought instead?

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 22 May 2016, 07:41
by foxdog1923
dberry wrote:
foxdog1923 wrote:
dberry wrote: :lol:
Is Browne allowed to fight now? It was quite funny how, REALLY FUNNY, how I was one of the first here to congrat Aussie on the Aussie board on their first ever World Heavyweight Champion which I was genuinely wrapt for. Then Browne gets busted?? LOL So funny the first ever champ of....yeah, anyway too funny :)

Anyway, seriously now. Talks with Parkers direction and in relation to calling out as thats what we're discussing, no I don't think there's any Browne Parker fight. I wouldn't mind seeing it as I think Parker would be doing Browne more of a favour if he did choose to fight Browne who's in a bit of trouble career wise obviously and Parker would be pulling him up if he did agree.

Parkers now the mandatory challenger to the IBF and is soon to be officially ranked no.1 contender in the IBF. The talk has always been Joshua, there was talks of the popular Lucas Browne for about a month but then they went for a guy named Carlos Takam.
Let's forget about what's happened to Lucas Browne with the positive drug fiasco, for a moment, off the back of Parker's performance last night, how do you see Parker vs Browne panning out if they were to have fought instead?
I think Lucas will defintely be up for the occasion as a kiwi Aust clash always does and so would Joseph. So while I'd have Joseph as a SLIGHT favourite out of respect for Browne the champion, Lucas will defintely make him work. I'd go with Parker by knockout but Lucas might take a leaf out of Jason Bergmans book and try to survive.

Right now there's too much trouble in Lucas career and I doubt that it'd be good for him. I read on here he's got 6 months so he just needs to stay off that stuff.

To be honest I think Duco looked at Takam as more appealing and difficult for Parker but a possible knockout victory. With Lucas they only saw a knockout victory and the rest of the world still saying that Parker only fights bums as is the case right here on Boxrec.

What do you think? Go detailed, I'll read it all.

Re: Parker vs Takam

Posted: 22 May 2016, 08:01
by convict
Browne hits harder then Parker, I'd favour Browne also because I'm a aussie. I think we know that fight wont happen and I don't think the Joshua fight will happen any time soon.

Parker seemed to have isues with Takams speed and accuracy and lacked vitality when he should have plenty of it after 5 rds. Maybe fights with someone like Fast Eddie Chambers or get him as a sparing partner could help.