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Judah Ben Fur wrote:

Perseus wrote:

Judah Ben Fur wrote:
Very uncool.there was nothing wrong with gmans,head the first three rounds when he put an inhuman beating on benn and benn fought back.

Iran Barkley? Remember him? Power punching and tough fight all night brawler?

I just think there is no one around with benns combination of speed ,ferocity,power and bob and weave defence to challenge golovkin.i also think golovkin is another overrated hype in the manner of a jeff lacey but there isnt a calzaghe,jones or benn around to expose him today

Lacy had very tough fights with unimpressive opponents Omar Shieka, Rubin Williams and Syd Vanderpool.
GGG has had no trouble at all against a similar level of competition, he has already shown himself to be better than the Jeff Lacy's out there.
Could it be that GGG himself IS the Calzaghe or Jones that goes around squashing the Jeff Lacy hype jobs of the world?

To anybody who was actually paying attention Lacy had been exposed before he ever got near Calzaghe.
One tough fight against the kind of competition he was facing is an anomaly, repeated tough nights is an established trend and clear indicator of your ceiling.

Well i appreciate your post perseus but if indeed u did suspect lacey of being a hype job prior to calzaghe ,than u were in the vast vast minority. He was presented by the american boxing media,as a mini tyson coming over to meet calzaghe.

I accept lacey is a rough analogy....the point being a former amateur star,undefeated and a big puncher.clearly golovkin is also a excellent boxer...im just saying i reserve judgement until he meets a andre ward or canelo or more far fetched a mayweather or kovolev ...i accept ggg would take any 1 of those fights and its not his,fault others wont fight him ,or everyone challenging is at 175 or 147, or indeed the relatively weak mw ranks right now.

Tomasino wrote:

stevedoc wrote:

Judah Ben Fur wrote:
Very uncool.there was nothing wrong with gmans,head the first three rounds when he put an inhuman beating on benn and benn fought back.

Iran Barkley? Remember him? Power punching and tough fight all night brawler?

I just think there is no one around with benns combination of speed ,ferocity,power and bob and weave defence to challenge golovkin.i also think golovkin is another overrated hype in the manner of a jeff lacey but there isnt a calzaghe,jones or benn around to expose him today

very uncool? benn was allowed to fight back because gerralds brain was swelling up you could see in Gmans eyes something was wrong well before the end ,as for barkley he was a big tough guy but he'd lost his last 2 fights before benn and was a slow starter not an easy fight for benn but nothing like facing golovkin . there was 2 versions of benn the wild swinging middleweight who was exciting but also vulnerable as the fight went on like the watson and eubanks fights there was a good chance he would punch himself out this guy had a maybe 5% chance of landing early like he did vs barkley ,then there's the slightly wiser benn at supermiddle who boxed more and was less wasteful he would of lasted longer but still wouldn't of made the final bell

I think Benn was lucky the Barkley fight didn't go beyond the first. Agree with all you've said entirely.

Judah Ben Fur wrote:

Tomasino wrote:

stevedoc wrote:

very uncool? benn was allowed to fight back because gerralds brain was swelling up you could see in Gmans eyes something was wrong well before the end ,as for barkley he was a big tough guy but he'd lost his last 2 fights before benn and was a slow starter not an easy fight for benn but nothing like facing golovkin . there was 2 versions of benn the wild swinging middleweight who was exciting but also vulnerable as the fight went on like the watson and eubanks fights there was a good chance he would punch himself out this guy had a maybe 5% chance of landing early like he did vs barkley ,then there's the slightly wiser benn at supermiddle who boxed more and was less wasteful he would of lasted longer but still wouldn't of made the final bell

I think Benn was lucky the Barkley fight didn't go beyond the first. Agree with all you've said entirely.

Yes, we were deprived of a hagler -hearns spectacle by the premature ending.strictly speaking it was correct as it was the 3 knockdown but iran clearly had recovered well by the third knockdown,if that makes sense.a real shame there wasnt a rematch.iran had lost 2 close fights to duran and nunn but he had just had retina surgery and the fast wild starting benn was the last guy to fight if u had ring rust.

I stick by my opinion .there is no one of benns calibre (either the late 90 miami honed mw version or the more skilled 95 version) fighting today to challenge at least a exceptional guy like ggg. I think benn would have probably lost but would hurt ggg and make a very hard fight.just 1 mans opinion

Judah Ben Fur wrote:
.i also think golovkin is another overrated hype in the manner of a jeff lacey but there isnt a calzaghe,jones or benn around to expose him today

Judah Ben Fur wrote:

Perseus wrote:

Judah Ben Fur wrote:
Very uncool.there was nothing wrong with gmans,head the first three rounds when he put an inhuman beating on benn and benn fought back.

Iran Barkley? Remember him? Power punching and tough fight all night brawler?

I just think there is no one around with benns combination of speed ,ferocity,power and bob and weave defence to challenge golovkin.i also think golovkin is another overrated hype in the manner of a jeff lacey but there isnt a calzaghe,jones or benn around to expose him today

Lacy had very tough fights with unimpressive opponents Omar Shieka, Rubin Williams and Syd Vanderpool.
GGG has had no trouble at all against a similar level of competition, he has already shown himself to be better than the Jeff Lacy's out there.
Could it be that GGG himself IS the Calzaghe or Jones that goes around squashing the Jeff Lacy hype jobs of the world?

To anybody who was actually paying attention Lacy had been exposed before he ever got near Calzaghe.
One tough fight against the kind of competition he was facing is an anomaly, repeated tough nights is an established trend and clear indicator of your ceiling.

Well i appreciate your post perseus but if indeed u did suspect lacey of being a hype job prior to calzaghe ,than u were in the vast vast minority. He was presented by the american boxing media,as a mini tyson coming over to meet calzaghe.

I accept lacey is a rough analogy....the point being a former amateur star,undefeated and a big puncher.clearly golovkin is also a excellent boxer...im just saying i reserve judgement until he meets a andre ward or canelo or more far fetched a mayweather or kovolev ...i accept ggg would take any 1 of those fights and its not his,fault others wont fight him or the relatively weak mw ranks right now.