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koolkc107 wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

Lancenix wrote:I find it funny that Johnson conveniently was 'injured' so he could not take this fight. The excuses to not fight GGG are just great, they are just one after another. There should be an excuse to not fight GGG rolodex and then all promoters and fighters could use it.

Yep, they should just be able to say something like "I am taking the fifth" instead of coming up with all those stupid excuses.

Not every guy who says he is injured is faking it to avoid lil g.

Hell, I can't find one guy who actually gave an unreasonable statement
explaining why a fight with Golovkin couldn't happen.

But I CAN find loads of comments from Loeffler, Sanchez, and lil g himself
explaining why fights we want to see are not going to happen.

For every link anyone can find that is an "excuse", I will post a lil g excuse.

I talked to GGG's lawyer who told me that anyone and everyone in the MW division has been given offers to fight and anyone of note who has not fought GGG has turned him down or found a way not to fight. He said they are not taking the 168 bait at all so do not count on it or even hope for it. They are also not into 164 catchweights either. That means nothing to GGG. He is only interested in being one of the greatest MW's ever. They are already tired of the dodging done by Cotto and the BS by Alvarez who they are hopeful to fight but they are realizing the possibility of this fight happening is no lock at all.

Freedom2013 wrote:Wade reach advantage

Average reach for Middleweight is 71.5"

70.0" reach for GGG

74.5" reach for Wade


Wade age advantage

Average age for Undefeated Champ = 28.9

34 years old on 04/23/2016 for GGG

26 years old on 04/23/2016 for Wade

Younger and with a longer reach is one way to look at it, alternatively...

Wade 18-0 with 66% knockout ratio
No amateur career of any great note
Best win a split decision over 41 year old Sam Soliman

Golovkin 34-0 with a 92% knockout ratio, the highest in middleweight history
345-5 as an amateur including olympic silver and world championship gold. Defeated Andre Direll en route to Olympic silver, and beat Korobov, Andy Lee and Lucian Bute en route to world championship gold.
Best win a complete demolition job over IBF champion David Lemieux 34-2 who was unbeaten in 5 years and had KOd 31 of his 34 victims.
GGG never been down in 384 fight as amateur or pro.
Also defeated Willie Monroe jnr, who has 74" reach, easily.

Wales wrote:

Freedom2013 wrote:Wade reach advantage

Average reach for Middleweight is 71.5"

70.0" reach for GGG

74.5" reach for Wade


Wade age advantage

Average age for Undefeated Champ = 28.9

34 years old on 04/23/2016 for GGG

26 years old on 04/23/2016 for Wade

Younger and with a longer reach is one way to look at it, alternatively...

Wade 18-0 with 66% knockout ratio
No amateur career of any great note
Best win a split decision over 41 year old Sam Soliman

Golovkin 34-0 with a 92% knockout ratio, the highest in middleweight history
345-5 as an amateur including olympic silver and world championship gold. Defeated Andre Direll en route to Olympic silver, and beat Korobov, Andy Lee and Lucian Bute en route to world championship gold.
Best win a complete demolition job over IBF champion David Lemieux 34-2 who was unbeaten in 5 years and had KOd 31 of his 34 victims.
GGG never been down in 384 fight as amateur or pro.
Also defeated Willie Monroe jnr, who has 74" reach, easily.

Great post there laying out great stats and facts!!

Grant wrote:If this is true i predict pain for Dominic. He got an absolute gift against Sam Soloman. GGG has disappointed me by making this fight. It doesn't make sense

Agreed. Wade is a good prospect but there's no way he's any where near GGG's level. Golovkin'd handlers like the undefeated record, that's all.

Best Coast wrote:

Grant wrote:If this is true i predict pain for Dominic. He got an absolute gift against Sam Soloman. GGG has disappointed me by making this fight. It doesn't make sense

Agreed. Wade is a good prospect but there's no way he's any where near GGG's level. Golovkin'd handlers like the undefeated record, that's all.

No GGG had to take this fight or be stripped of the belt. He did not want to be stripped of the belt and had to take the fight. The fight was supposed to be against Johnson but Johnson was 'injured' so Wade was next in line. GGG's team wanted to fight Saunders, Saunders turned him down. They are no longer calling Haymon about Jacobs because that is an utter waste of time and De La Hoya and Canelo are playing this stupid 155 game that Cotto played but here is the thing. If GGG wins and Canelo wins then it will go to negotiation and purse bid and Canelo can fight GGG at 160 or drop the title and GGG will either fight for or be given the WBC strap. This should be all figured out after the Kahn Canelo fight which is no gimmie at all. But GGG will fight any MW in the world at 160 anytime, anyplace, anywhere.

Best Coast wrote:

Grant wrote:If this is true i predict pain for Dominic. He got an absolute gift against Sam Soloman. GGG has disappointed me by making this fight. It doesn't make sense

Agreed. Wade is a good prospect but there's no way he's any where near GGG's level. Golovkin'd handlers like the undefeated record, that's all.

Two posts in and you are already trolling. Congratulations. Now go join Chepppaaa and bnovelist on the short bus.

I've got a strange feeling about this fight for some reason. I know nothing about this guys Wade but there's something about his confidence that bothers me. It's not that fake confidence we see all the time from some of these phonies just trying to sell tickets before taking a dive on fight night and cashing his check. It's that calm confidence we've seen before from guys that turned the world upside down in sports. I hope that i'm wrong.

I can't stand when a big fight is scheduled in the future like Canelo/GGG or Kovalev/Ward. Don't tell me that these guys are all 100% focused on their tune up opponents right now. They would deny it but when these guys are hitting the heavy bag, they are seeing the face of the opponent after this one more often than not. It's a perfect climate for upsets. I've got a bad feeling.

caldo2025 wrote:I've got a strange feeling about this fight for some reason. I know nothing about this guys Wade but there's something about his confidence that bothers me. It's not that fake confidence we see all the time from some of these phonies just trying to sell tickets before taking a dive on fight night and cashing his check. It's that calm confidence we've seen before from guys that turned the world upside down in sports. I hope that i'm wrong.

They are all confident before feeling a first jab from Golovkin. Stevens, Adama and Monroe sounded especially confident ...

GGG 164 for the 30 day weigh-in
Wade 175.6

crusader wrote:GGG 164 for the 30 day weigh-in
Wade 175.6

Canelo was 167.8 for his 155-lb fight against Cotto ...

caldo2025 wrote:I've got a strange feeling about this fight for some reason. I know nothing about this guys Wade but there's something about his confidence that bothers me. It's not that fake confidence we see all the time from some of these phonies just trying to sell tickets before taking a dive on fight night and cashing his check. It's that calm confidence we've seen before from guys that turned the world upside down in sports. I hope that i'm wrong.

I can't stand when a big fight is scheduled in the future like Canelo/GGG or Kovalev/Ward. Don't tell me that these guys are all 100% focused on their tune up opponents right now. They would deny it but when these guys are hitting the heavy bag, they are seeing the face of the opponent after this one more often than not. It's a perfect climate for upsets. I've got a bad feeling.

Me too but because Wade looks pretty good on the tapes I have seen. I believe he is a better boxer then Monroe, he possesses more diverse skillset, can fight inside and outside he looks very ring savvy. If he can step over the levels and experience gap he could be a danger man. I am not too worried about GGG not taking him seriously because he is an ultimate pro but still he need to be mentally prepared for a hard fight.

I hope wade makes it out of this fight without being seriously hurt. Could be a career ending type of beating.

Noslackgiven wrote:

Lancenix wrote:

Kootenay47 wrote:Plenty of exciting fights for GGG at 168 , who wouldn't want to see him fight Bute ? They met in the amateurs and it was a helluva fight . Just 3 months ago Bute gave a gritty performance against DeGale , he lost but he looked pretty solid .

Then there is DeGale , he is bigger than GGG , younger , at least as fast , good fluid puncher. Matt Korobov , Badou Jack and Jose Uzcategui all interesting match-ups at 168 for GGG .

There is no guarantee GGG's style will work as well at 168 . Most of his wins have been stoppages due to attrition with some of his opponents lasting into the latter rounds . His years of physical conditioning , sparring and high pressure style takes it's toll on his body . You don't hear about injuries with GGG but all fighters his age fight with something not 100% .

The bigger men will be better able to withstand his pressure style , after all GGG is not a big middleweight.

Nope GGG is a MW and this post is just stupid. Just so dumb. He is a small middle at that. He has a better chance of going to 154 than 168. Your post just sucks dude. Bute. that would interest NO ONE.

Since he's so small he should be fighting in the more competitive Jr MW division.

Dude is a straight-up coward.

You are a straiht-up idiot. As soon as Golovkin moves down, top JMWs will immediately move up. He should stay at MW until he gets all belts and thus starts a new lineage. The old is compromised by cowards Cotto and Canelo.

Oiky wrote:not ggg's fault that nobody wants to fight him

Not true, Ward sent him a contract and they turned it down in 19 minutes. All he has to do is move down to 154, Lara has already called him out.

Tarkus wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:I've got a strange feeling about this fight for some reason. I know nothing about this guys Wade but there's something about his confidence that bothers me. It's not that fake confidence we see all the time from some of these phonies just trying to sell tickets before taking a dive on fight night and cashing his check. It's that calm confidence we've seen before from guys that turned the world upside down in sports. I hope that i'm wrong.

I can't stand when a big fight is scheduled in the future like Canelo/GGG or Kovalev/Ward. Don't tell me that these guys are all 100% focused on their tune up opponents right now. They would deny it but when these guys are hitting the heavy bag, they are seeing the face of the opponent after this one more often than not. It's a perfect climate for upsets. I've got a bad feeling.

Me too but because Wade looks pretty good on the tapes I have seen. I believe he is a better boxer then Monroe, he possesses more diverse skillset, can fight inside and outside he looks very ring savvy. If he can step over the levels and experience gap he could be a danger man. I am not too worried about GGG not taking him seriously because he is an ultimate pro but still he need to be mentally prepared for a hard fight.

I looked up some of Wade's action as well and I agree with you, he's definitely a tougher test than Monroe. If it were any other boxer than GGG, i'd say it's a trap fight for sure but again i agree with you, GGG is way too seasoned to take any test lightly. It must be interesting to be so good that you have the ability to extend a fight for the fans and take some shots on purpose to give fans their money's worth. I'm not sure if everyone's noticed it but in the last handful of fights, GGG's lowered his hands to take shots. I think that's why he's pounding the jab so frequently in the last couple fights. It keeps his opponent in on his feet for a little longer so he can get some work in. That jab is becoming a huge piece of his arsenal.

I've been watching Boxing for a long time and GGG is so far and away the best all around boxer i've seen and to dominate like this in the era of PED's is crazy. Every pro athlete is on something or another.

Noslackgiven wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

Noslackgiven wrote:Since he's so small he should be fighting in the more competitive Jr MW division.

Dude is a straight-up coward.

You are a straiht-up idiot. As soon as Golovkin moves down, top JMWs will immediately move up. He should stay at MW until he gets all belts and thus starts a new lineage. The old is compromised by cowards Cotto and Canelo.

Cotto and Canelo have better resumes than GGG.

They have taken risks that Golovkin would never take.

I doubt the Jr MWs would move up..boxers are not afraid of one another..despite what you believe.

They are not afraid of one another. They afraid of losing their zeroes.

There is no point of arguing about Cotto's and Canelo's resumes even though Cotto doesn't have any real achievements above 147 and Canelo could easily have 3 losses on his resume if he didn't have pocket judges. The point is that they are afraid to face GGG, and that is absolutely clear.

ikorolev wrote:

Noslackgiven wrote:

ikorolev wrote:
You are a straiht-up idiot. As soon as Golovkin moves down, top JMWs will immediately move up. He should stay at MW until he gets all belts and thus starts a new lineage. The old is compromised by cowards Cotto and Canelo.

Cotto and Canelo have better resumes than GGG.

They have taken risks that Golovkin would never take.

I doubt the Jr MWs would move up..boxers are not afraid of one another..despite what you believe.

They are not afraid of one another. They afraid of losing their zeroes.

There is no point of arguing about Cotto's and Canelo's resumes even though Cotto doesn't have any real achievements above 147 and Canelo could easily have 3 losses on his resume if he didn't have pocket judges. The point is that they are afraid to face GGG, and that is absolutely clear.

And just what "ACHIEVEMENTS" Golovkin has at or above 160??

Noslackgiven wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

ikorolev wrote:
They are not afraid of one another. They afraid of losing their zeroes.

There is no point of arguing about Cotto's and Canelo's resumes even though Cotto doesn't have any real achievements above 147 and Canelo could easily have 3 losses on his resume if he didn't have pocket judges. The point is that they are afraid to face GGG, and that is absolutely clear.

And just what "ACHIEVEMENTS" Golovkin has at or above 160??

GGG doesn't even have any achievments at 160...

It is hard to have better achievements when cowards are hiding from you.

Who the hell is Wade and what has he done??

Lara is begging for that opportunity, Ward sent him a contract and I'm certain that Andre would be willing to drop down to 165 or back to SMW for that "money" fight with GGG.

Oh but noooooo, everyone is ducking Golovkin and if you don't agree you immediately get put on the "Ignore List".

Noslackgiven wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

Noslackgiven wrote:GGG doesn't even have any achievments at 160...

It is hard to have better achievements when cowards are hiding from you.

GGG is the biggest coward of them all.

The only ones I consider running from GGG is Jacobs and Quillen, so let's not make it sound as though everyone is running from him.

He (GGG) has other options, he doesn't have to sit at 160 and say it's ok to move down to 154 only for a money fight with Floyd while seemingly complaining along with his hypocrite fans about having to face Canelo at 155 for a "Money" fight.

He can move up to face Ward who sent him a contract that he rejected in 19 minutes.

He can move up to 175 and fight Beterbiev, Kovalev and I'm certain that Pascal wouldn't run from him either nor would Superman and definitely not Fonfara or Chavez.

Excuses and more excuses is all I see by GGG's apparently blinded and tunnel-visioned fans.

Noslackgiven wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

Noslackgiven wrote:GGG is the biggest coward of them all.

The only ones I consider running from GGG is Jacobs and Quillen, so let's not make it sound as though everyone is running from him.

He (GGG) has other options, he doesn't have to sit at 160 and say it's ok to move down to 154 only for a money fight with Floyd while seemingly complaining along with his hypocrite fans about having to face Canelo at 155 for a "Money" fight.

He can move up to face Ward who sent him a contract that he rejected in 19 minutes.

He can move up to 175 and fight Beterbiev, Kovalev and I'm certain that Pascal wouldn't run from him either nor would Superman and definitely not Fonfara or Chavez.

Excuses and more excuses is all I see by GGG's apparently blinded and tunnel-visioned fans.

How is Jacobs running from GGG?

Ask him (Ikey) this is one of the "EVERYBODIES" he is saying that is supposedly Ducking GGG.

I'm sure he has a catalog of things he can say or make up that will prove in his own mind why he believes Jacobs and Quillen are ducking Golovkin and oh, I forgot to add Cotto and Canelo to that list of his (Ikey's).

I'm sure he would want to include them because God forbid that they won't meet GGG at full MW and make him drop to 155 for a "money" fight but it's totally ok if he (GGG) does it for a fight at 154 with Mayweather while saying "no" to Lara at that same weight.

Noslackgiven wrote:Rigo and Andrade can't even get fights..they are ducked..

GGG is aways fighting.

Fighting BUMS.

Perfect example of split personality psychosis at work above! How many different voices are in your head Brut?

Baby Face Finster wrote:Perfect example of split personality psychosis at work above! How many different voices are in your head Brut?

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