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asdfjkl wrote: *facepalm*, Povetkin doesn't juice... Has Wilder actually ever been tested in his previous fights? All I remember was Szpilka wondering why he hasn't been tested yet, because it was kinda odd around that point with Wilder involved.

I am not saying he does. But it is a strong possibility. Wait and watch him walk through Wilders best punches.

Tarkus wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: *facepalm*, Povetkin doesn't juice... Has Wilder actually ever been tested in his previous fights? All I remember was Szpilka wondering why he hasn't been tested yet, because it was kinda odd around that point with Wilder involved.

I am not saying he does. But it is a strong possibility. Wait and watch him walk through Wilders best punches.

After achieving all this now suddenly juicing? He has allways won with skills, not with muscle.

asdfjkl wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: *facepalm*, Povetkin doesn't juice... Has Wilder actually ever been tested in his previous fights? All I remember was Szpilka wondering why he hasn't been tested yet, because it was kinda odd around that point with Wilder involved.

I am not saying he does. But it is a strong possibility. Wait and watch him walk through Wilders best punches.

After achieving all this now suddenly juicing? He has allways won with skills, not with muscle.

You clearly have not been watching his post Klitschko transformation.

Tarkus wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Tarkus wrote: I am not saying he does. But it is a strong possibility. Wait and watch him walk through Wilders best punches.

After achieving all this now suddenly juicing? He has allways won with skills, not with muscle.

You clearly have not been watching his post Klitschko transformation.

Ofcourse I have, but then he would have been cought ages ago, he went from fat to normal, he's still more fat as any other serious contender

asdfjkl wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: After achieving all this now suddenly juicing? He has allways won with skills, not with muscle.

You clearly have not been watching his post Klitschko transformation.

Ofcourse I have, but then he would have been cought ages ago, he went from fat to normal, he's still more fat as any other serious contender

When would have been caught? All of his post Klitschko fights were in mother Russia.

Povetkins body shape has drastically changed over the last couple of years.
Hopefully it's happened naturally.

PredatorHayds wrote:Povetkins body shape has drastically changed over the last couple of years.
Hopefully it's happened naturally.

..really? I must have missed it..at least the weight has been more or less stable...at 102,4kg vs Wlad and 103,3 vs Wach..

I think we all can see something looks fishy with Povetkins appearance since he got hugged all night by Vlad. It's sad Wilder gets all this hate when this guy seems sketchy as fornicate.

SFW wrote:I think we all can see something looks fishy with Povetkins appearance since he got hugged all night by Vlad. It's sad Wilder gets all this hate when this guy seems sketchy as eff.

Povetkins body has changed, though I would not say drastically. Wilder's body has a much more enhanced look to it. Hopefully both are (or aren't if that's your thing) and we see a top fight.

Tarkus wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Tarkus wrote: You clearly have not been watching his post Klitschko transformation.

Ofcourse I have, but then he would have been cought ages ago, he went from fat to normal, he's still more fat as any other serious contender

When would have been caught? All of his post Klitschko fights were in mother Russia.

So was the Klitschko fight, what does that have to do with anything?

punchoutsb wrote:

SFW wrote:I think we all can see something looks fishy with Povetkins appearance since he got hugged all night by Vlad. It's sad Wilder gets all this hate when this guy seems sketchy as eff.

Povetkins body has changed, though I would not say drastically. Wilder's body has a much more enhanced look to it. Hopefully both are (or aren't if that's your thing) and we see a top fight.

Wilder has consistently looked the same, and long & lanky with chicken legs doesn't indicate PED use a fraction as much as the changes to Povetkin do.. but it's just speculation. Even big name guys can get caught red handed and find a way out anyway. This drug issue is a permanent one.

..can anyone get before/after pics of Povetkin to compare?..I kinda missed that change..

SFW wrote:I think we all can see something looks fishy with Povetkins appearance since he got hugged all night by Vlad. It's sad Wilder gets all this hate when this guy seems sketchy as eff.

The hate of Wilder and admiration of Povetkin at this forum is remarkable. As a matter of fact even Russians don't value Povetkin too much, knowing how fishy was some of his wins(Huck, Chagaev, Takam) and how miserably he performed against Klichko lately and against Huck at his prime.

His Russian nickname is Podmishkin, translated as Armpit-kin...he got it after his fight with Huck, stacking his face under Huck's armpits

By the way, he did it also against Klitchko all the time

SFW wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

SFW wrote:I think we all can see something looks fishy with Povetkins appearance since he got hugged all night by Vlad. It's sad Wilder gets all this hate when this guy seems sketchy as eff.

Povetkins body has changed, though I would not say drastically. Wilder's body has a much more enhanced look to it. Hopefully both are (or aren't if that's your thing) and we see a top fight.

Wilder has consistently looked the same, and long & lanky with chicken legs doesn't indicate PED use a fraction as much as the changes to Povetkin do.. but it's just speculation. Even big name guys can get caught red handed and find a way out anyway. This drug issue is a permanent one.

It's impossible to tell by looking, but it's a good bet any professional athlete is using something.

Wilder kills this fool even on Times Square , does not matter where. Wilder via murder

greg wrote:..can anyone get before/after pics of Povetkin to compare?..I kinda missed that change..

https://www.google.ru/url?sa=i&rct=j&q= ... 9218402966


http://s5o.ru/storage/simple/ru/edt/61/ ... d4c.36.jpg

bigman1968 wrote:

greg wrote:..can anyone get before/after pics of Povetkin to compare?..I kinda missed that change..

https://www.google.ru/url?sa=i&rct=j&q= ... 9218402966


http://s5o.ru/storage/simple/ru/edt/61/ ... d4c.36.jpg

...oh well, for a potential HW Champion of the world he looks pretty average especially if compared with HW superstars over the last 30- 40 years...

I see Povetkin is a slightly bit less fat and a tiny bit more muscled, but with a differend trainingstyle and a period of three years, I don't see anything that seems to be naturally impossible.

In fact Wilder his weightgain from 207,5 in november 2008, to 214,5 in March 2009, to 220 in may 2009 and still no gram of fat in 2009 seems more odd. Not like wow, this must be a fraud, this is impossible odd, but certainly more odd as anything around Povetkin.

asdfjkl wrote:I see Povetkin is a slightly bit less fat and a tiny bit more muscled, but with a differend trainingstyle and a period of three years, I don't see anything that seems to be naturally impossible.

Noone says it is naturally impossible. But significant change in style and physicality after combined with the luck of proper drug control as wells non functional legal system in that country is a big concern.

Tarkus wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:I see Povetkin is a slightly bit less fat and a tiny bit more muscled, but with a differend trainingstyle and a period of three years, I don't see anything that seems to be naturally impossible.

Noone says it is naturally impossible. But significant change in style and physicality after combined with the luck of proper drug control as wells non functional legal system in that country is a big concern.

There are piles of people, including Deontay Wilder, who suggest, or act like Povetkin uses steroids. Why? Just because he's from Russia? For me it's just another bullshit excuse.

asdfjkl wrote:

Tarkus wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:I see Povetkin is a slightly bit less fat and a tiny bit more muscled, but with a differend trainingstyle and a period of three years, I don't see anything that seems to be naturally impossible.

Noone says it is naturally impossible. But significant change in style and physicality after combined with the luck of proper drug control as wells non functional legal system in that country is a big concern.

There are piles of people, including Deontay Wilder, who suggest, or act like Povetkin uses steroids. Why? Just because he's from Russia? For me it's just another bullshit excuse.

I just explained it to you. Are you a bot of some kind?

Tarkus wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

Tarkus wrote:
Noone says it is naturally impossible. But significant change in style and physicality after combined with the luck of proper drug control as wells non functional legal system in that country is a big concern.

There are piles of people, including Deontay Wilder, who suggest, or act like Povetkin uses steroids. Why? Just because he's from Russia? For me it's just another bullshit excuse.

I just explained it to you. Are you a bot of some kind?

What do you suggest that should happen? Just make the fight and do the test. I'm quite annoyed about these sad excuses and the act of conspiracy theorys, there's nothing to be concerned about.

asdfjkl wrote: What do you suggest that should happen? Just make the fight and do the test. I'm quite annoyed about these sad excuses and the act of conspiracy theorys, there's nothing to be concerned about.

As I said on other thread he needs to minimize risks. Make sure drug test is handled by reliable company. Stay in Russia as little as possible. Have your own food and drinks. Probably give samples before and after the trip.

I haven't understood this fight from the start. Why the fight was such a rock solid mandatory that had to be done is one thing but why in the world the champion be required to lose his home field advantage and defend the title on the challengers home turf halfway across the earth?

Wilder has been fighting poofers since grabbing the belt, why is he having such a hard time getting around this scrap?

Tarkus wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: What do you suggest that should happen? Just make the fight and do the test. I'm quite annoyed about these sad excuses and the act of conspiracy theorys, there's nothing to be concerned about.

As I said on other thread he needs to minimize risks. Make sure drug test is handled by reliable company. Stay in Russia as little as possible. Have your own food and drinks. Probably give samples before and after the trip.

If it was up to me I would let it test by several differend company's, but I assume Wilder doesn't like that does he?