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Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 06:26
by keirw
Kingfield wrote:expe wrote:Londonirish wrote:
No body likes a grass.....
Things like this happens in sport a life time Ban is a bit Strong..
Boxing's dangerous enough without cheats like Galahad taking drugs, don't see any reason why he should be allowed in the ring again. Says a lot about the Ingles that they've stood by him, same goes for the others supporting him.
What a effing hypocrite Adam Booth is too, 2 weeks ago saying it should be a criminal offence, but now it's great news that Galahad's back in the ring.
https://twitter.com/boxingbooth/status/ ... 6999350272
https://twitter.com/boxingbooth/status/ ... 6815875072
What a ridiculous post. Where do you even start with such stupidity.
I'm with Expe on this one, if it was weed or if he had been caught out by an over the counter pharmaceutical that contained an obscure ingredient then you could make a case for leniency.
But not with anabolic steroids, he can claim to have been spiked all he wants, but what's to stop other fighters doing the same thing if he gets let off?
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 07:05
by Stuarty
ste1983 wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:ste1983 wrote:too many boxers on twitter either wishing him 'happy birthday bro' last week or congratulating him on his ban being cut yesterday for my liking. The same people would want a cheat banned for life if he wasn't part of their circle or if it was a rival.
His birthdays should be banned

Just think drugs cheats should be shunned from the sport not pal'd up too. This wasn't a boxer caught out by using recreational drugs this was a performance enhancing steriod in boxing that should be a life ban!
Totally agree mate. I wasn't 100% sure if it was a PED. You're putting your opponents health at serious risk in a sport that is dangerous enough. It's reprehensible and should carry a lifetime ban.
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 08:47
by magwitch
keirw wrote:Kingfield wrote:
What a ridiculous post. Where do you even start with such stupidity.
I'm with Expe on this one, if it was weed
or if he had been caught out by an over the counter pharmaceutical that contained an obscure ingredient then you could make a case for leniency.
case in point Maria Sharapova

Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 08:48
by magwitch
end up being bad for him, potentially....boxers that get chunks taken out of careers for whatever reason tend to want to overcompensate when they finally get back. Like Ali - being a lazy example, or Mike Tyson, being another lazy example

..... but tha gets the picture...
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 09:03
by Stuarty
magwitch wrote:end up being bad for him, potentially....boxers that get chunks taken out of careers for whatever reason tend to want to overcompensate when they finally get back. Like Ali - being a lazy example, or Mike Tyson, being another lazy example

..... but tha gets the picture...
Galahad has quite a disciplined style so I don't think that will be a problem. You're right though he may not be the same. He's decent enough but I don't see him as being on the same level of Frampton or Quigg. I've heard stories that he boxed the bejesus out of Quigg in sparring though so perhaps I'm wrong. Maybe he was juiced out his dial when he sparred Quigg? If he was taking PEDs then he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a boxing ring again.
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 09:24
by Kingfield
keirw wrote:Kingfield wrote:
What a ridiculous post. Where do you even start with such stupidity.
I'm with Expe on this one, if it was weed or if he had been caught out by an over the counter pharmaceutical that contained an obscure ingredient then you could make a case for leniency.
But not with anabolic steroids, he can claim to have been spiked all he wants, but what's to stop other fighters doing the same thing if he gets let off?
Why are you? his comments are ridiculous and as usual full of self importance, whilst completely ignoring the facts.
Look at the facts of the case and apply some logic, not what some idiot on the internet opines.
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 09:50
by los2
suspicions about much bigger fish.................
http://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/9 ... rust-usada...............
link doesnt work...........search thomas hauser can boxing trust usada.........
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 09:51
by expe
Kingfield wrote:keirw wrote:Kingfield wrote:
What a ridiculous post. Where do you even start with such stupidity.
I'm with Expe on this one, if it was weed or if he had been caught out by an over the counter pharmaceutical that contained an obscure ingredient then you could make a case for leniency.
But not with anabolic steroids, he can claim to have been spiked all he wants, but what's to stop other fighters doing the same thing if he gets let off?
Why are you? his comments are ridiculous and as usual full of self importance, whilst completely ignoring the facts.
Look at the facts of the case and apply some logic, not what some idiot on the internet opines.
The facts are that Kid Galahad took performance enhancing drugs, made up a ridiculous lie in an attempt to get out of it and was banned. Now his ban has been reduced by 6 months for no apparent reason.
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 10:18
by PredatorHayds
His ban being reduced is a joke.
Blatantly guilty as his excuse was as good as the dog ate my homework.
The most realistic fight for him down the road would be Mcdonnell or Dickens. He's lost too much ground on Quigg and Frampton now.
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 10:42
by Kingfield
expe wrote:Kingfield wrote:keirw wrote:
I'm with Expe on this one, if it was weed or if he had been caught out by an over the counter pharmaceutical that contained an obscure ingredient then you could make a case for leniency.
But not with anabolic steroids, he can claim to have been spiked all he wants, but what's to stop other fighters doing the same thing if he gets let off?
Why are you? his comments are ridiculous and as usual full of self importance, whilst completely ignoring the facts.
Look at the facts of the case and apply some logic, not what some idiot on the internet opines.
The facts are that Kid Galahad took performance enhancing drugs, made up a ridiculous lie in an attempt to get out of it and was banned. Now his ban has been reduced by 6 months for no apparent reason.
The only fact is that you are stupid enough to believe your opinion is a fact, when it is far from it.
Why don't you go and have a read of the facts, then you will really be 'in the know' rather than just making things up.
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 10:46
by Stuarty
Kingfield wrote:expe wrote:Kingfield wrote:
Why are you? his comments are ridiculous and as usual full of self importance, whilst completely ignoring the facts.
Look at the facts of the case and apply some logic, not what some idiot on the internet opines.
The facts are that Kid Galahad took performance enhancing drugs, made up a ridiculous lie in an attempt to get out of it and was banned. Now his ban has been reduced by 6 months for no apparent reason.
The only fact is that you are stupid enough to believe your opinion is a fact, when it is far from it.
Why don't you go and have a read of the facts, then you will really be 'in the know' rather than just making things up.
That was a very cryptic response. Do you condone KGs behaviour?
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 10:52
by Stuarty
Just seen a thing on Sky that he is fighting on Kell Brooks undercard this month. Has he signed with big glitter balls Eddie?
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 10:58
by Kingfield
Stuarty30 wrote:Kingfield wrote:expe wrote:
The facts are that Kid Galahad took performance enhancing drugs, made up a ridiculous lie in an attempt to get out of it and was banned. Now his ban has been reduced by 6 months for no apparent reason.
The only fact is that you are stupid enough to believe your opinion is a fact, when it is far from it.
Why don't you go and have a read of the facts, then you will really be 'in the know' rather than just making things up.
That was a very cryptic response. Do you condone KGs behaviour?
How is it cryptic? I have stated that he should go and read the publicly available facts of the case rather than push some strange agenda of being in the know.
Do i condone what exactly? Read the facts of the case and you'll see there is nothing to condone and making such stupid claims as he should be banned for life is also unwarranted. The facts are he had his protein drink spiked his brother produced a signed affidavit saying he had done so and his own sister backed this up, before you throw that back actually have a look at what that means to sign one of those, go one further would you sign one to say his brother is lying? Next is the amount found in the sample, not consistent with a doper at all. Add to that fact stanozol is a very old school steroid, it's hardly first choice for boxers who are working with top sports scientists. Ben Johnson was caught using it in 1988, it's now 2016, things have moved on a bit. Just look at the drug Sharapova was using, barely anyone has heard of it.
Don't just follow what someone on a forum with a high post count has to say. Look at the facts for yourself, they are not being hidden from anyone. Even UK anti doping have put the facts out there. He was banned under the condition of culpability.
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 11:03
by Stuarty
Kingfield wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Kingfield wrote:
The only fact is that you are stupid enough to believe your opinion is a fact, when it is far from it.
Why don't you go and have a read of the facts, then you will really be 'in the know' rather than just making things up.
That was a very cryptic response. Do you condone KGs behaviour?
How is it cryptic? I have stated that he should go and read the publicly available facts of the case rather than push some strange agenda of being in the know.
Do i condone what exactly? Read the facts of the case and you'll see there is nothing to condone and making such stupid claims as he should be banned for life is also unwarranted. The facts are he had his protein drink spiked his brother produced a signed affidavit saying he had done so and his own sister backed this up, before you throw that back actually have a look at what that means to sign one of those, go one further would you sign one to say his brother is lying? Next is the amount found in the sample, not consistent with a doper at all. Add to that fact stanozol is a very old school steroid, it's hardly first choice for boxers who are working with top sports scientists. Ben Johnson was caught using it in 1988, it's now 2016, things have moved on a bit. Just look at the drug Sharapova was using, barely anyone has heard of it.
Don't just follow what someone on a forum with a high post count has to say. Look at the facts for yourself, they are not being hidden from anyone. Even UK anti doping have put the facts out there. He was banned under the condition of culpability.
Mate I barely read that because at a glance it had 'rant' written all over it. I have no agenda or loyalty to anyone (no matter how many times they have posted). From what I have read on here you seem to be defending the guy? If he has taken PEDs then he is bang to rights and he has dodged a bullet coming back so soon IMO. If you have any other info then please enlighten me. I am nothing if not impartial.
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 11:09
by Kingfield
Read the post then fella, don't be so lazy!
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 11:15
by Stuarty
Kingfield wrote:Read the post then fella, don't be so lazy!
I'd rather eat mashed potato out of Susan Boyles minge crack mate.
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 11:33
by keirw
Kingfield wrote:Stuarty30 wrote:Kingfield wrote:
The only fact is that you are stupid enough to believe your opinion is a fact, when it is far from it.
Why don't you go and have a read of the facts, then you will really be 'in the know' rather than just making things up.
That was a very cryptic response. Do you condone KGs behaviour?
How is it cryptic? I have stated that he should go and read the publicly available facts of the case rather than push some strange agenda of being in the know.
Do i condone what exactly? Read the facts of the case and you'll see there is nothing to condone and making such stupid claims as he should be banned for life is also unwarranted. The facts are he had his protein drink spiked his brother produced a signed affidavit saying he had done so and his own sister backed this up, before you throw that back actually have a look at what that means to sign one of those, go one further would you sign one to say his brother is lying? Next is the amount found in the sample, not consistent with a doper at all. Add to that fact stanozol is a very old school steroid, it's hardly first choice for boxers who are working with top sports scientists. Ben Johnson was caught using it in 1988, it's now 2016, things have moved on a bit. Just look at the drug Sharapova was using, barely anyone has heard of it.
Don't just follow what someone on a forum with a high post count has to say. Look at the facts for yourself, they are not being hidden from anyone. Even UK anti doping have put the facts out there. He was banned under the condition of culpability.
Believe it or not, my opinion on this case isn't based on a post I read on a forum earlier today.
I am aware of the fact that Galahad claimed to have been spiked and that his brother has claimed responsibility,it may well be true.
But it may well be that his brother, who from what I can gather is already serving time inside for an unrelated offence, has volunteered to take the rap in order to give Galahad a chance of saving his career that would otherwise be in tatters.
Do you think the latter is beyond the realm of possibility?
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 11:41
by los2
PredatorHayds wrote:
The most realistic fight for him down the road would be Mcdonnell or Dickens. He's lost too much ground on Quigg and Frampton now.
dillian whyte didnt get his 2 yr ban reduced and then boxed joshua ppv...........mcdonnell already ducked galahad......hes already ko dickens.....frampton wont go near him..........that leaves quigg..........
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 11:46
by keirw
Stuarty30 wrote:Kingfield wrote:Read the post then fella, don't be so lazy!
I'd rather eat mashed potato out of Susan Boyles minge crack mate.
Now that's an image I could have done without
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Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 11:46
by Counter-puncher
i have thought for a while that at his best, KG's style would be a nightmare for Quigg, and present at least some problems for Frampton.
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 11:49
by Stuarty
los2 wrote:PredatorHayds wrote:
The most realistic fight for him down the road would be Mcdonnell or Dickens. He's lost too much ground on Quigg and Frampton now.
dillian whyte didnt get his 2 yr ban reduced and then boxed joshua ppv...........mcdonnell already ducked galahad......hes already ko dickens.....frampton wont go near him..........that leaves quigg..........
The only reason Frampton 'wouldn't go near' Galahad is that the fight wouldn't make commercial sense for him. Not because he is scared. There is levels in boxing and KG is a few below Frampton. Carl is just coming off a win in a big box office event and KG is just coming back from a doping ban! Different ends of the spectrum mate...
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 11:51
by Stuarty
Counter-puncher wrote:i have thought for a while that at his best, KG's style would be a nightmare for Quigg, and present at least some problems for Frampton.
He is a good boxer. I respect your opinion on here as you seem a knowledgable guy but there is no way Galahad has the boxing skills of Frampton. I don't think he carries pure power either so any fight between the two would come down to ability and I think that Frampton has spades more ability than KG.
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 11:51
by rio
From the outside looking in it does not look good for KG. It looks as if he got caught then got his brother to try take the rap for it. He's in prison anyway so people will think he's already a bad guy who would do something like this, I presume that was the though process behind his excuse. Did he ever come out and say what exactly what they fell out about as to why his brother alledgley spiked his drink? His ban was a disgrace, he got less than Dillion whyte who got a very harsh ban for taking an OTC supplement. Worse still this reflects very badly on ingle who has a great reputation. I certainly won't be supporting KG after this.
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 11:57
by Stuarty
rio wrote:From the outside looking in it does not look good for KG. It looks as if he got caught then got his brother to try take the rap for it. He's in prison anyway so people will think he's already a bad guy who would do something like this, I presume that was the though process behind his excuse. Did he ever come out and say what exactly what they fell out about as to why his brother alledgley spiked his drink? His ban was a disgrace, he got less than Dillion whyte who got a very harsh ban for taking an OTC supplement. Worse still this reflects very badly on ingle who has a great reputation. I certainly won't be supporting KG after this.
Agree mate. The guy cheated then had the brass neck to try and palm that bullshit excuse off! He should be treated with contempt. I wouldn't look too harshly upon the Ingles because they obviously have a close relationship with the boy. They are giving him a second chance so fair play to them. Personally speaking, I would come down hard on any drug cheat in our sport. It's a dangerous game.
Re: Kid Galahad
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 12:09
by Counter-puncher
Stuarty30 wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:i have thought for a while that at his best, KG's style would be a nightmare for Quigg, and present at least some problems for Frampton.
He is a good boxer. I respect your opinion on here as you seem a knowledgable guy but there is no way Galahad has the boxing skills of Frampton. I don't think he carries pure power either so any fight between the two would come down to ability and I think that Frampton has spades more ability than KG.
well, all i said was
'present at least some problems....', doesn't say
that much about Galahad does it? other than i think stylewise he'd make for quite a difficult fight for Farmpton, which i'll try explain why:
reason being, from what I have seen at his best Frampton is a kindof front foot counterpuncher, he doesn't like to back off toooo much, but on the kindof half-front foot he likes to trigger his opponent into leading and falling short, which because of his shortish height and tiny arms, against a normal sized 122lber, he can sometimes struggle a bbit when made to lead; and often when made to lead against a guy who won't lead much, Frampton will fall short himself like he did against that Gonzalez kiddy. i think KG has a nice style- and his arms quite a lot longer- to try and make Frampton lead and either peck him with a jab coming in, or if he can adjust his feet quickly, to make him fall short and counter.
i don't say any more than this would 'present at least some problems', like i say.
slowfooted Quigg on the other hand i think would spend at least 6 or 7 rounds following KG round the rign with an expresssion of pure confusion on his face.