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Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 11:10
by milpool
reggaereggae wrote:
milpool wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:Tim Doc Anderson - Mark Gastineau 2 was more than a little fishy.....
In the book, 'The Years of the Locust', it's claimed that Anderson was drugged.
That's a good book. Anderson really believed that to be the case as his health deteriorated.... He shot the promoter and is now in life imprisonment
Great book, one that I'd definitely read again.

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 11:22
by reggaereggae
milpool wrote:
reggaereggae wrote:
milpool wrote:
In the book, 'The Years of the Locust', it's claimed that Anderson was drugged.
That's a good book. Anderson really believed that to be the case as his health deteriorated.... He shot the promoter and is now in life imprisonment
Great book, one that I'd definitely read again.
Yeah I definitely may do that too. Fascinating

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 11:25
by cocobongo
What was the Danny Green fight were he didn't seem to touch the opponent and went on a wwe style rant

Also Gethin pulling out in the corner after he heavily dropped Coyle looked suspect at the time!

Derry Vs Crolla II and Beltran vs Burns as draw's also the first men mentioned clearly clearly won both fights for me!

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 11:34
by J
crab vs squid very fishy!


in seriousness barnes (or was it walker I forget) vs Vincent was a daylight robbery.

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 11:43
by Boxerbeetle
cocobongo wrote:What was the Danny Green fight were he didn't seem to touch the opponent and went on a wwe style rant

Also Gethin pulling out in the corner after he heavily dropped Coyle looked suspect at the time!

Derry Vs Crolla II and Beltran vs Burns as draw's also the first men mentioned clearly clearly won both fights for me!
I thought a draw for Derry vs Crolla II was a fair result at the time, although admittedly I've not watched it back.

No need to re-watch the Beltran vs Burns fight though, that was a robbery.

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 12:15
by reggaereggae
cocobongo wrote:What was the Danny Green fight were he didn't seem to touch the opponent and went on a wwe style rant

Also Gethin pulling out in the corner after he heavily dropped Coyle looked suspect at the time!

Derry Vs Crolla II and Beltran vs Burns as draw's also the first men mentioned clearly clearly won both fights for me!
Danny Green fight against Paul Briggs. Very odd. Briggs was a tough guy too. Had a hard life, i read his autobiography

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 13:29
by Londonirish
J wrote:crab vs squid very fishy!


in seriousness barnes (or was it walker I forget) vs Vincent was a daylight robbery.



I boxed on that Bill and remember thinking WTF :-?

Didn't David Barnes was Boxing till i just looked him up.....

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 14:48
by gerryd77
All of Austin Trout's fights.

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 14:52
by Stuarty
gerryd77 wrote:All of Austin Trout's fights.
:lol: love it

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 14:56
by chiggsy
Burns vs cook were the bookies in london took daft amounts of dough on cook getting stopped within 3.

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 15:04
by Stuarty
chiggsy wrote:Burns vs cook were the bookies in london took daft amounts of dough on cook getting stopped within 3.
That was frustrating! I was all hyped up after Burns came in to the ring to the sounds of Charlie Lownoise and Mental Theo then Cooks back collapses like an MFI wardrobe!

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 15:47
by Loftgroov
Khan v Kindelan - the rematch after the Olympics.

Just felt like a setup to launch Khan's pro career, with Mario perhaps invited to not put up too much of a scrap this time (having dealt with Khan twice in the previous year)

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 15:51
by Stuarty
Loftgroov wrote:Khan v Kindelan - the rematch after the Olympics.

Just felt like a setup to launch Khan's pro career, with Mario perhaps invited to not put up too much of a scrap this time (having dealt with Khan twice in the previous year)
I didn't see that fight. I had a night out and my dad was texting me the scores after each round and afterwards said the exact same thing as yourself.

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 17:29
by Shirow
I believe Banks broke both his hands trying to take out Mitchell and watching the fight you can believe that Banks is just trying to hide the fact that his hands are smashed and playing it off as nonchalance. That's how i remembered it anyway and i don't plan on watching it again to check my opinion.

I think this might be the fishiest and most bizarre fight i have ever seen. I don't know how the opponent kept a straight face. I've never heard so much laughter during a boxing match...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leWuKR4TOY0

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 17:44
by keithmoonhangover
Toney vs Tiberi stunk to high heaven.

I wonder which fighter got the most dodgy decisions. Eubank had a fair few.

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 17:45
by gilgamesh
keithmoonhangover wrote:Toney vs Tiberi stunk to high heaven.

I wonder which fighter got the most dodgy decisions. Eubank had a fair few.
I've seen Toney have bad decisions go against him more than for him.

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 17:48
by keithmoonhangover
gilgamesh wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Toney vs Tiberi stunk to high heaven.

I wonder which fighter got the most dodgy decisions. Eubank had a fair few.
I've seen Toney have bad decisions go against him more than for him.
I thought he lost to Tiberi, Johnson and the first McCallum fight,

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 17:52
by Stuarty
keithmoonhangover wrote:Toney vs Tiberi stunk to high heaven.

I wonder which fighter got the most dodgy decisions. Eubank had a fair few.
Eubank had a good few close fights that were hard to score because of his awkward style.

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 17:53
by gilgamesh
keithmoonhangover wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:Toney vs Tiberi stunk to high heaven.

I wonder which fighter got the most dodgy decisions. Eubank had a fair few.
I've seen Toney have bad decisions go against him more than for him.
I thought he lost to Tiberi, Johnson and the first McCallum fight,
I didn't see the latter two. I thought he got screwed in both Montell Griffin fights though, and the first Sam Peter fight.

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 18:40
by littlepug
Fury getting the decision 1st time against McDermott was a bit suspect

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 18:50
by CharlesListon
littlepug wrote:Fury getting the decision 1st time against McDermott was a bit suspect

I agree, but think it was just a case of not being scored the way most others saw it.

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 18:58
by CharlesListon
I've read a book and I cannot remember for the life of me which book it was, but it made reference to the Clay v Liston bouts. (Which I 100% believe were fixed by Blinky and the mob).

The book goes onto suggest that there was one more 'huge' Ali fight which wasn't on the level but that if it ever came out would ruin boxing. I immediately thought of the Rumble in the Jungle.

Nowadays, the slightest hint of criticism of Ali will see you hung, drawn and quartered. And rightly so, as he did more for the sport than arguably anyone ever has or will do again....hence the reluctance of calling 'fix' on any of his fights???

IF, there were any dodgy dealings going on, it is almost certain that the winner knows absolutely nothing about it.

If, as a loser you were offered a huge sum of money, promises of getting your honest break sooner or later (Jake Lamotta) versus being killed by men that did not bluff then what would you do? Take the dive or do a Bruce Willis in Pulp Fiction?

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 19:01
by gilgamesh
CharlesListon wrote:I've read a book and I cannot remember for the life of me which book it was, but it made reference to the Clay v Liston bouts. (Which I 100% believe were fixed by Blinky and the mob).

The book goes onto suggest that there was one more 'huge' Ali fight which wasn't on the level but that if it ever came out would ruin boxing. I immediately thought of the Rumble in the Jungle.

Nowadays, the slightest hint of criticism of Ali will see you hung, drawn and quartered. And rightly so, as he did more for the sport than arguably anyone ever has or will do again....hence the reluctance of calling 'fix' on any of his fights???

IF, there were any dodgy dealings going on, it is almost certain that the winner knows absolutely nothing about it.

If, as a loser you were offered a huge sum of money, promises of getting your honest break sooner or later (Jake Lamotta) versus being killed by men that did not bluff then what would you do? Take the dive or do a Bruce Willis in Pulp Fiction?
I'll always be certain that the 2nd Liston fight was a dive on Liston's part. Why he took the dive I'll never know, but he definitely took a dive. None of Ali's other fights looked fixed to me. Unless you wanna count bad judging as a fix, in which case that's happened more times than any of us can count.

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 19:17
by keithmoonhangover
gilgamesh wrote:I'll always be certain that the 2nd Liston fight was a dive on Liston's part. Why he took the dive I'll never know, but he definitely took a dive. None of Ali's other fights looked fixed to me. Unless you wanna count bad judging as a fix, in which case that's happened more times than any of us can count.
I wouldn't say it was a dive. He got hit and he went down. The chaos afterwords, who knows. One thing I am certain of.... If Liston had got up, he would have taken a beating.

Re: Fights That Were A Little Fishy.

Posted: 18 Mar 2016, 19:24
by PredatorHayds
From the amateurs Callum Smith losing a Olympic qualifier in turkey against a Turk on points. He absolutely battered him. So one sided. Worst decision ever.

Also the obvious one is Robin Reids ref in Germany. More fishy than captain birds eye that ref.