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dberry wrote:Joshua fought his way up to an elite amateur and is 15-0 as a pro, at what point does he stop being referred to as a novice and it bing considered "too soon" for him to step up?

Probably when he proves himself at a higher level.

Horse wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:Personally I don't know why people would think Hearn wouldn't want to put Joshua in with Fury. Joshua beats Fury relatively easily imo. Fury doesn't even have the power to score a one-shot ko like Wilder or Haye would.

Most people don't think that Joshua will beat Fury easily, because he won't.

Hearn doesn't think that Joshua will beat him easily either.

What most people think is irrelevant. Most people thought Fury would get knocked out by Wlad.

Boxerbeetle wrote:What most people think is irrelevant. Most people thought Fury would get knocked out by Wlad.

Why do you assume that Hearn has the same opinion as you? You think that Joshua beats Fury easily, but it is unlikely that Hearn does.

Joshua is unproven at world level and could easily come a cropper when he steps up.

His chin doesn't seem great and nor does his stamina. His temperament also seems very questionable, he could well get himself disqualified at some point.

Horse wrote:His chin doesn't seem great and nor does his stamina. His temperament also seems very questionable, he could well get himself disqualified at some point.

All these things could have been said (possibly were said) regarding Fury, still won the world title though.

Horse wrote:Easily come a cropper

Are you stuck in 1950 or something?

Offal wrote:Are you stuck in 1950 or something?

I'm hip. I'm with it.

I'm pretty sure the phrase 'come a cropper' is still used by the kids and rap stars of the current age.

Horse wrote:I'm hip. I'm with it

Horse wrote:I'm pretty sure the phrase 'come a cropper' is still used by the kids and rap stars of the current age.

The last person to use that expression was Deryck Guyler.

Offal wrote:

Horse wrote:I'm hip. I'm with it

Horse wrote:I'm pretty sure the phrase 'come a cropper' is still used by the kids and rap stars of the current age.

The last person to use that expression was Deryck Guyler.

I doubt it will be anytime this year.

tiny_acres wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Horse wrote:I don't believe it.

Hahaha. You act like a spoiled brat. Hearn wants to make the fight, what's the big deal?

I hope he does want to make the fight.
But for once Sur I disagree with you. I think Hearn is just yapping his gums.
But I hope I am wrong

Why wouldn't he? Huge money, tons of belts and a very beatable champion. I'd bet big on Joshua in that fight.

In reality, Fury has proven more in the ring than both Joshua and Wilder. The disrespect he mindlessly gets is kinda funny, but clearly hypocritical. He should fight Joshua now, and turn his ass into the next David Price. Now that would be hilarious.

I like fury, he is just coming out of a woeful performance. He fought smart, but would need to do much more against any of the top guys.

...Joshua is an Olympic Champ, 2.5 years in paid ranks...should be ready by now to fight anyone including the top guy...not to forget that Fury was an underdog in the last fight, he/his team chose the right strategy and rightfully won...didn't change my opinion though that Fury was and is beatable...

greg wrote:He/his team chose the right strategy and rightfully won...didn't change my opinion though that Fury was and is beatable...

Great post

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Horse wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:That's because you're full of sh1t. Hearn wants to make a huge money spinning fight involving one of his fighters and you, a keyboard warrior, know better than him. Hmmmm.

Hearn says he wants to make it, that doesn't mean that he does.

"Keyboard warrior"? Laughable comment.

Your only involvement in boxing is typing your keyboard and looking at the screen.

What a state for this thread to get into within half a page.

dberry wrote:Joshua fought his way up to an elite amateur and is 15-0 as a pro, at what point does he stop being referred to as a novice and it bing considered "too soon" for him to step up?

Well he's fighting for a strap.

His problem isn't so much how many fights he's had but the lack of rounds. So far on Whyte has hit him with a couple of shots (and he looked shook up).

Petsonally i think Wilder and AJ are in the same boat. There comes a point an elite operator with a chin makes them look like 1trick ponies and takes them out. Just my hunch.

I can't see it happening in November, it's to big and would require a huge outdoor arena in Summer.

Non of us know what Hearn is thinking, I hope Joshua wins but it is not a forgone conclusion - it seems Martin will be coming to win I've only seen his last bout and he didn't seem all that good but Joshua hasn't faced very tough opposition to prepare him.

A Joshua v Tyson bout would be very big, a money spinner, on PPV of course and though I think Fury would win it only takes a single slip up and he could be hit very hard. I'm not convinced Wlad will box again, his heart didn't seem in it last time out.

I think Eddie genuinely believes AJ can beat anyone so maybe he will make the fight sooner than expected, surly it would have to be in summer though? It could potentially be the biggest UK fight of all time.

I went out on a limb and picked Martin to upset Joshua in PTBF. Call me crazy but just a hunch....had a dream Joshua got KO'd inside of 10. Premonition? I think Joshua has great potential but Martin just seems the faster more accurate guy, southpaw with quick combos, with better stamina. If I'm wrong, oh well.

If I'm right? Fury - Martin?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:
Hahaha. You act like a spoiled brat. Hearn wants to make the fight, what's the big deal?

I hope he does want to make the fight.
But for once Sur I disagree with you. I think Hearn is just yapping his gums.
But I hope I am wrong

Why wouldn't he? Huge money, tons of belts and a very beatable champion. I'd bet big on Joshua in that fight.

Exactly how I see it.

TBH I hope either of them fights the winner of Wilder/Povetkin first, otherwise Wilder/Povetkin will probably fight Lucas Browne, and after that Wilder/Povetkin only needs a hell of a lot of luck to unify all belts, without even being a real top 5 boxer.

Win lose or draw Joshua is in a great position

He would still sell out to O2 no matter the result of his world title fight