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I watched a show once during a quiet 1st round someone in the crowd shouted "Hit him in the pancreas"

Made me laugh anyway

vidal wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:I seem to remember a little laughter when this guy named Bryan something fought Kenny Rainford on Tuesday Night Fights. He had a mullet. Claimed to be an unbeaten street fighter, and was about as uncoordinated as a guy could be. Rainford beat him easily with a basic skill set

This one..... it's brilliant. Kenny Rainford v Brian Sutherland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG5My-ar6V4

Cheap laughs really. “watch to the end for more hilarity” and then clags a totally unrelated clip to it. I was expecting the guy to be a lot worse than in this video.

Giancarlo wrote:"Rufus homicide henry gypsy bobbins defibaugh" vs J'Leon Love.

As he comes out of his corner with what appears to be two left feet...

Ha Haaaaaaa !!! Excellent example !!! Where after being fed to the lions on his "two left feet" does 47 seconds of funny dance before being nailed literally with a "love tap" on the chin from the aptly named "J'Leon Love" and promptly eats the canvass, or bites the dust if you like !!!

Another funny guy who clearly can't fight aswell as he thinks is one "Usman 'Uzzy' Ahmed"....There is a video of him circulating somewhere in cyberspace of him entering a boxing ring to some way over the top hybrid of asian desi music and garage, and while this is playing he can be seen hamming it up giving it large to the crowd, literally dancing all the way to the ring from the entrance, once in the ring he squares up to some young lad by the name of Ashley Sexton, proper getting in his face like some wannabe gangster, then he is seen being pulled away by the referee, and the video proceeds to the referee's instructions, where an out of shot member of team Sexton offers his closed fist to Ashley to fist while Ashley gives him a knowing look as if to say "Just wait and see what I do to this little mug ! Next thing the bell goes and were off, poor "Uzzy" lasts a mere 30 seconds or so of the first round before getting knocked out with a punch that would barely rock most men, but which has this skinny little wannabe's head snap right back, whilst his body follows and crashes into the ropes !!! Of course he didn't make the count, and lost via a very embarrassing KO !!! Embarrassing especially considering his over enthusiastic and confident ring walk, and attempt at bullying Sexton at the start !!! He became an internet sensation as a direct result of this video of this fight, and is still a pseudo boxing celebrity as a result, recently having been interviewed by I-Film giving his opinion on Tyson Fury's prospects in the rematch with Wladimir Klitschko, but he gained this level of celebrity and 5 minutes of fame, not for being a great fighter, or exhibiting any boxing skill or heart in a fight, but rather for being a complete laughing stock !!!

Type "Usman Ahmed vs Ashley Sexton" into You Tube if you want a great laugh that is up there with "Suicide Henry's" one and only "Pro fight"

Ha Ha Ha Ha Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Scypion wrote:Foreman vs Lyle.

Oh come on, Foreman-Lyle wasn't that bad.

I do remember watching it with girl who thought it was fake.

Old bones Ian wrote:I watched a show once during a quiet 1st round someone in the crowd shouted "Hit him in the pancreas"

Made me laugh anyway

that's is rather funny

Giancarlo wrote:"Rufus homicide henry gypsy bobbins defibaugh" vs J'Leon Love.

As he comes out of his corner with what appears to be two left feet...

No amateurs, going in against the #1 or #2 middleweight amateur in the world (silver medal @ the Pan Am Games).

What did you expect the outcome of that to be other than what it was?

I only did it because Stacy Goodson said if I "proved I wanted to fight", that he'd book me on his shows against one of his "Trailer Park Series" guys like Zelenoff and Hartley and Strege. I know in my heart I'd of beaten any of those guys. Oh well, c'este la vie. Life goes on, as the poet says. Probably the best compliment I ever heard was from someone on EastSideBoxing who said, "What Rufus did Zelenoff will never do," and he was right cus Charlie never did fight pro again.

HomicideHenry wrote:

Giancarlo wrote:"Rufus homicide henry gypsy bobbins defibaugh" vs J'Leon Love.

As he comes out of his corner with what appears to be two left feet...

No amateurs, going in against the #1 or #2 middleweight amateur in the world (silver medal @ the Pan Am Games).

What did you expect the outcome of that to be other than what it was?

I only did it because Stacy Goodson said if I "proved I wanted to fight", that he'd book me on his shows against one of his "Trailer Park Series" guys like Zelenoff and Hartley and Strege. I know in my heart I'd of beaten any of those guys. Oh well, c'este la vie. Life goes on, as the poet says. Probably the best compliment I ever heard was from someone on EastSideBoxing who said, "What Rufus did Zelenoff will never do," and he was right cus Charlie never did fight pro again.

Don't really know your story mate but understand you struggled to get fights, where are you based and why the difficulty getting matched ? I thought managers loved inexperienced lads, perfect for their young prospects

I wasn't at either live, but the drunken doughboy out of the crowd to fight Morrison was hilarious and Ruddock fought a guy named Anthony Wade, I think it was on the hearns/Barkley 2 undercard, he was like 5'8 300 and in the 3rd or 4th round he got up on his toes with titties flailing and outboxed razor for 3 minutes. We were all going wild.

littlepug wrote: Don't really know your story mate but understand you struggled to get fights, where are you based and why the difficulty getting matched ? I thought managers loved inexperienced lads, perfect for their young prospects

The problem never was that I couldn't get matches. The problem was I could never get the kind of matches to help me grow and get better. Believe you me, I was once offered $5,000 to fight Bruce Seldon's son... I turned it down cus I knew for that kind of money, that I was going to more than get brutalized by the dude. I got offers like that all the time for the first year or two after my debut. And I kept telling those managers, promoters, "No" because there was no real gain to any of it. I needed third tier, low level fights to help build my skills. Nobody ever offered me that.

Call me crazy, but I figured my overall health and personal interests were worth more than earning fast cash against guys I had absolutely no chance of winning against. Sure the money would have been great, but who's to say that I wouldn't have lost so badly that I got decommissioned and wouldn't be allowed to fight ever again, even if I had the cash to buy myself wins? The risk was beyond the reward. I learned from the mistakes of others (like Andrew Hartley) and I refused to allow myself to just be some perrenial loser. Either I was gonna get evenly matched contests, or I wasn't gonna fight.

HomicideHenry wrote:

littlepug wrote: Don't really know your story mate but understand you struggled to get fights, where are you based and why the difficulty getting matched ? I thought managers loved inexperienced lads, perfect for their young prospects

The problem never was that I couldn't get matches. The problem was I could never get the kind of matches to help me grow and get better. Believe you me, I was once offered $5,000 to fight Bruce Seldon's son... I turned it down cus I knew for that kind of money, that I was going to more than get brutalized by the dude. I got offers like that all the time for the first year or two after my debut. And I kept telling those managers, promoters, "No" because there was no real gain to any of it. I needed third tier, low level fights to help build my skills. Nobody ever offered me that.

Call me crazy, but I figured my overall health and personal interests were worth more than earning fast cash against guys I had absolutely no chance of winning against. Sure the money would have been great, but who's to say that I wouldn't have lost so badly that I got decommissioned and wouldn't be allowed to fight ever again, even if I had the cash to buy myself wins? The risk was beyond the reward. I learned from the mistakes of others (like Andrew Hartley) and I refused to allow myself to just be some perrenial loser. Either I was gonna get evenly matched contests, or I wasn't gonna fight.

Think you made the right call, suppose a lot of managers/promoters these days just haven't got the guts to invest in a total unknown, maybe you should of tried out the amateur game first for a bit of foundation

littlepug wrote: Think you made the right call, suppose a lot of managers/promoters these days just haven't got the guts to invest in a total unknown, maybe you should of tried out the amateur game first for a bit of foundation

At the time (and still is that way) where I'm from there were numerous MMA dojos, but not pure boxing gyms nearby. The closest ones were either in Lima or Dayton or Cincinnati or Columbus, and with the income I had at the time there was no way I could feasibly go back and forth all the time. The amateur boxing scene was (also) in those places, and shows were few and far between. Most of the time those guys travelled out of state to Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, West Virginia, etc. and if/when they did compete in Ohio it was in Youngstown or Cleveland. In retrospect, I probably should have, but ((shrugs)) was young and didn't know nothing about the business or who to really get ahold of or anything. Just winged it. If I knew what I know now, would have been different for sure.

HomicideHenry wrote:

littlepug wrote: Think you made the right call, suppose a lot of managers/promoters these days just haven't got the guts to invest in a total unknown, maybe you should of tried out the amateur game first for a bit of foundation

At the time (and still is that way) where I'm from there were numerous MMA dojos, but not pure boxing gyms nearby. The closest ones were either in Lima or Dayton or Cincinnati or Columbus, and with the income I had at the time there was no way I could feasibly go back and forth all the time. The amateur boxing scene was (also) in those places, and shows were few and far between. Most of the time those guys travelled out of state to Indiana, Kentucky, Michigan, West Virginia, etc. and if/when they did compete in Ohio it was in Youngstown or Cleveland. In retrospect, I probably should have, but ((shrugs)) was young and didn't know nothing about the business or who to really get ahold of or anything. Just winged it. If I knew what I know now, would have been different for sure.

Tough break mate, geography can certainly change your path, I come from a small town in the north of England and there was loads of AM and pro boxing

Ray "Windmill" White, the Clown Prince of Boxing and a light-heavyweight who was active during the 1960s and 1970s, often had boxing fans in stitches with his antics during bouts.

- Chuck Johnston

Remember there was a fight where one boxer's mother (Tony Wilson I think) hit the opponent with her shoe. That probably got a laugh

There's a Manchester journeyman Curtis Gargano who plays to the crowd and always gets a giggle. One of my favourite 'journeyman'.

Chuck1052 wrote:Ray "Windmill" White, the Clown Prince of Boxing and a light-heavyweight who was active during the 1960s and 1970s, often had boxing fans in stitches with his antics during bouts.

- Chuck Johnston

Chuck, Windmill's antics were the best. He had everyone from the live audience, the viewers at home and the commentators regularly cracking up. Wish those fights were on youtube. They would be an instant hit - going viral. I'll telly you a funny one. One that had my Dad and I cracking up. Remember how they would introduce Ray as 'the fighting carpenter'? Well once during a 10 rounder (I think against Terry lee) someone in the audience yells out - close enough to the microphones to come across on TV - "Hey Ray, I hope you're a good carpenter." The crowd laughed, Mickey Davies and Tom Harmon were laughing and even Ray - while the round was in progress - gave the heckler a wave of his glove. Toooo funny!

scartissue wrote:

Chuck1052 wrote:Ray "Windmill" White, the Clown Prince of Boxing and a light-heavyweight who was active during the 1960s and 1970s, often had boxing fans in stitches with his antics during bouts.

- Chuck Johnston

Chuck, Windmill's antics were the best. He had everyone from the live audience, the viewers at home and the commentators regularly cracking up. Wish those fights were on youtube. They would be an instant hit - going viral. I'll telly you a funny one. One that had my Dad and I cracking up. Remember how they would introduce Ray as 'the fighting carpenter'? Well once during a 10 rounder (I think against Terry lee) someone in the audience yells out - close enough to the microphones to come across on TV - "Hey Ray, I hope you're a good carpenter." The crowd laughed, Mickey Davies and Tom Harmon were laughing and even Ray - while the round was in progress - gave the heckler a wave of his glove. Toooo funny!

Ray "Windmill White" lives in Oak View, California, which is near my hometown of Ventura. When Windmill was active as a fighter, he received plenty of coverage in the Ventura Star-Free Press (now known as the Ventura County Star). The first pro fight card that I ever attended was when Ray fought Lonnie Bennett in the main event at the Ventura County Fairgrounds in Ventura. During the bout, Ray did very little clowning on his way to a loss by a majority decision. In my opinion, the decision was the right one.

I remember seeing Ray fight Terry Lee on television. Ray clowned around during the entire bout, winning a split-decision. But I thought that Ray clearly won.

- Chuck Johnston

vidal wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:I seem to remember a little laughter when this guy named Bryan something fought Kenny Rainford on Tuesday Night Fights. He had a mullet. Claimed to be an unbeaten street fighter, and was about as uncoordinated as a guy could be. Rainford beat him easily with a basic skill set

This one..... it's brilliant. Kenny Rainford v Brian Sutherland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG5My-ar6V4

Can't understand the announcers - but why are they laughing? - they are assholes! - would like to see one of those laughing bitches get into the ring a take a punch - fornicate the announcers; any fighter who puts his health at risk deserves respect whether skilled or not - don't care how bad the fighter is; I hold much more respect for him than those assholes!

As for the Rainford-Sutherland match.... believe you me, there's been far worse matches than that.... Hell, on the card I fought J'Leon Love on.... The man who fought in the first bout of the night (against Michael Finney), that poor bastard got kayoed within 30 seconds and had a horrible blood blister form from one of the shots.... People tend to forget just how many boxing matches have occured and the only "evidence" for whether it was good or bad, is the eyewitnesses to the fights themselves.... I think a humorous fight, imho, was the Joe Savage bout with Bert Cooper. So much hype and emphasis was put on "The Lethal Weapon", who claimed to be 42-0 in bareknuckle matches (yet even to this day all the real bareknuckle men never heard of him) and he got poleaxed in one round by the old, washed up Cooper. Was hilarious, mainly because this guy appeared on the David Letterman Show and other talk shows, saying he was going to kayo Lennox Lewis, Frank Bruno, etc.

Great call on the Savage-Cooper fight, Rufus.

What made it so comical was the fact that Savage was bouncing around and gesturing in the most uncoordinated way possible. Anyone with an ounce of awareness could see he had zero athletic skill. And then the bout began and it was apparent that Savage not only wasn't competitive, if outclassed, but looked like he may have never thrown a punch in anger in his entire life. Complete fraud. He had to know he couldn't fight, right? Why in the world he took that fight for maybe $1000 is one of life's mysteries.

if the fight was video-taped and the audience larfed,chances are it would have been shown on one of those Sports Blooper
shows they ue to have on Television back in the 1980's and 1990's,
althought there is a good chance some twit did a voice-over in post -production when these were shown.

Dart340 wrote:Great call on the Savage-Cooper fight, Rufus.

What made it so comical was the fact that Savage was bouncing around and gesturing in the most uncoordinated way possible. Anyone with an ounce of awareness could see he had zero athletic skill. And then the bout began and it was apparent that Savage not only wasn't competitive, if outclassed, but looked like he may have never thrown a punch in anger in his entire life. Complete fraud. He had to know he couldn't fight, right? Why in the world he took that fight for maybe $1000 is one of life's mysteries.

Allegedly, the deal was had he defeated Cooper he would have gotten a fight with either Bruno or Lewis. Way I understand, Savage left boxing to become either an actor or a bodyguard for actors overseas in America following this loss. I've never been able to track him down though. Who knows, maybe his real name wasn't even Joe Savage.

HomicideHenry wrote:Who knows, maybe his real name wasn't even Joe Savage.

That was his actual name.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxi ... 65102.html

^Old newspaper report on Savage (1993) he was supposed to enter the British title elimination series. What would have been interesting (to me at least) would have been Joe Savage versus John Fury and only because Fury was an actual established bare knuckle fighter and had gloved experience, whereas Savage was something of a mystery claiming to be England's bareknuckle champion when nobody really ever heard of the man. Maybe next time I ever talk to Peter Fury, I will ask him whether he knew anything about Joe Savage being a legit bareknuckle man or whether he was all smoke and mirrors.

Supposedly he owns a metal working place outside London and is around and about still telling stories. There's a newspaper interview out there where he talks about his "career" in retrospective and what he's doing now.

I'd love to see the Letterman clip. He was a slick con man. For having a Jackie Gleason physique, he sure garnered a lot of interest and credibility when he could barely throw a credible punch.