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mickey1975 wrote:And big daft Tyson refused to even drink water in Germany....

He isn't as daft as he comes across at times

Glass Joe wrote:People still living in a fantasy world where they think sports stars get to the top of their sport by out working the next guy.

My understanding of steriods leads me to believe that a one off dose wouldnt enhance anything. For example if took something today then I wouldnt be like GGG tomorrow.

Therefore should travelling fighters be tested before they travel to prove they are clean in the lead up to the event or would that just open up more potential issues of people saying they had been clean 2 days before so must have been spiked etc. Dont know if that comment describes my point in the right way but i cant be bothered typing it again. Lol.

Emmseegee wrote:My understanding of steriods leads me to believe that a one off dose wouldnt enhance anything. For example if took something today then I wouldnt be like GGG tomorrow.

Therefore should travelling fighters be tested before they travel to prove they are clean in the lead up to the event or would that just open up more potential issues of people saying they had been clean 2 days before so must have been spiked etc. Dont know if that comment describes my point in the right way but i cant be bothered typing it again. Lol.

I understand what you're saying and agree, as far as I understood he used some fatburner, you can't burn fat in one day, so he must have taken it a while ago, so he could have been tested before the fight as well.

broomy7s wrote:I take Clen as a fat burner. Helps me to cut.

Why bother? What is wrong with dieting harder and doing some extra cardio?!

Clenbuterol or whatever its called is also a PED once used in cycling is it not?
It improves cardiovascular performace, increases protein synthesis and burns fat. There may well be better, newer improved ways of cheating out there but this drug would be beneficial to almost any sportsman.

In this case i see it more as guilty until proven innocent, they are responsible for what goes in their body.

Emmseegee wrote:Clenbuterol or whatever its called is also a PED once used in cycling is it not?
It improves cardiovascular performace, increases protein synthesis and burns fat. There may well be better, newer improved ways of cheating out there but this drug would be beneficial to almost any sportsman.

In this case i see it more as guilty until proven innocent, they are responsible for what goes in their body.

Usually I would agree but it's Chechnya after all so the jury's out IMO. Do we know who administered the tests yet?

Clen is such an old fashioned stripper and stays in your system for ages. There are far better and safer alternatives these days.

It's an out and our PSD, it's not something you'd accidently find hidden in Jacked or one of those types of thing.

Be interested to see the scores on the doors to see how much was in him.

I know Russia is dodgy but my gut says he's a guilty man

Naandrew wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:And big daft Tyson refused to even drink water in Germany....

He isn't as daft as he comes across at times

Yes, he only drank Guiness when out there

i knew this would happen ! Too many imported fighters failing drugs tests in Russia after beating Russian fighters !

Allegedly : Either they have amazing tests / everywhere else is shit OR they are playing with people's samples!

Having said that Lucas is a tank and comes from an MMA background ( where everyone is juiced)

Who knows what to believe these days !

Clenbuterol was also what they got Alberto Contador for in the Tour de France. He claimed it must have been in some horsemeat, but they still banned him.

He lost weight and got ripped. Big Tyson is still a jiggly ball of lard, so.....

Horsemeat is a common excuse it seems, Tesco have a lot of questions to answer.

When boxers are found guilty of peds after a fight what happens in most cases with the result ? Do they go as a No Contest ?

Stuarty30 wrote:

Emmseegee wrote:Clenbuterol or whatever its called is also a PED once used in cycling is it not?
It improves cardiovascular performace, increases protein synthesis and burns fat. There may well be better, newer improved ways of cheating out there but this drug would be beneficial to almost any sportsman.

In this case i see it more as guilty until proven innocent, they are responsible for what goes in their body.

Usually I would agree but it's Chechnya after all so the jury's out IMO. Do we know who administered the tests yet?

VADA - see http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-22/l ... ve/7265570 . VADA website at http://vada-testing.org/

tijuana1 wrote:When boxers are found guilty of peds after a fight what happens in most cases with the result ? Do they go as a No Contest ?

Yep, usually, like David Price's last defeat.

Unless your name is Tony Thompson or Lamont Peterson.

olij999 wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

Emmseegee wrote:Clenbuterol or whatever its called is also a PED once used in cycling is it not?
It improves cardiovascular performace, increases protein synthesis and burns fat. There may well be better, newer improved ways of cheating out there but this drug would be beneficial to almost any sportsman.

In this case i see it more as guilty until proven innocent, they are responsible for what goes in their body.

Usually I would agree but it's Chechnya after all so the jury's out IMO. Do we know who administered the tests yet?

VADA - see http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-22/l ... ve/7265570 . VADA website at http://vada-testing.org/

Thanks for that mate. Not looking too clever for Browne at all. Says he's failed a sample taken before the fight so that kind of contradicts any theories he was 'spiked' which was my first thought when I heard the news.

MarkMcBurney wrote:

tijuana1 wrote:When boxers are found guilty of peds after a fight what happens in most cases with the result ? Do they go as a No Contest ?

Yep, usually, like David Price's last defeat.

Unless your name is Tony Thompson or Lamont Peterson.

Thanks I was wondering uk results really. Cheers