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Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 15:27
by ikorolev
Give the guy a break. He is Pakistani. Pakistan won a total of 3 Olympic golds -- all in field hockey.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 18:45
by Deadendgeneration
Badhusker wrote:I got Canelo, in an embarrassing decision over Khan! Actually, it will be a KO in the 11th or 12th round, after Khan gets tired enough and Canelo finally catches her.
Embarrassing for who? The "her" part suggests you mean Khan, but for most, lasting 11 rounds would be a major achievement for Khan.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 19:01
by ikorolev
Deadendgeneration wrote:
Badhusker wrote:I got Canelo, in an embarrassing decision over Khan! Actually, it will be a KO in the 11th or 12th round, after Khan gets tired enough and Canelo finally catches her.
Embarrassing for who? The "her" part suggests you mean Khan, but for most, lasting 11 rounds would be a major achievement for Khan.
Khan is clearly the man of those two. He got balls to move two divisions up which would be comparable to Canelo fighting Kovalev.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 19:09
by Deadendgeneration
ikorolev wrote:
Deadendgeneration wrote:
Badhusker wrote:I got Canelo, in an embarrassing decision over Khan! Actually, it will be a KO in the 11th or 12th round, after Khan gets tired enough and Canelo finally catches her.
Embarrassing for who? The "her" part suggests you mean Khan, but for most, lasting 11 rounds would be a major achievement for Khan.
Khan is clearly the man of those two. He got balls to move two divisions up which would be comparable to Canelo fighting Kovalev.
Khan's confidence is bordering on mental deficiency levels. He's an arrogant prick who comes out with some right shite. Still I always tune in not just hoping to see him get knocked out, but because he's usually in good fights. Hunter hasn't really helped that but he might have helped his longevity.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 22:20
by MachoTime
Badhusker wrote:8 people (so far) think Khan will beat Canelo? :doh: If this makes PTBF I am using all of my 2x and 3x on this one...can I do that?

I guess they are doing a good job of marketing it though if anyone thinks Khan has a chance. He did say his power has tripled, he is faster, and his chin is much stronger. Do people actually believe him? He definitely is mentally challenged.
Now it's 13 picking Khan. And no I'm not one of the 13..

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 25 Mar 2016, 22:35
by crusader
I think many people are overestimating the difference that Khan's speed will make and are giving him too much credit for his boxing skills. No doubt that he is very fast, but he's not slick and has been hit and hurt plenty by significantly slower opponents who are worse overall than Canelo. It's also not like he's massive at 147 and is obviously better suited for a higher division.

I'm very confident that Khan is not going to win.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 01:54
by diddy
18-13?

That's hilarious.

This fight isn't even remotely competitive. Once Canelo starts banging that body it will be full fledged retreat mode. No chance in hell Khan, if he can somehow keep his chin from failing, will win a decision against frigging Canelo when he's sprinting laps around the ring apron.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 01:57
by diddy
ikorolev wrote:
Deadendgeneration wrote:
Badhusker wrote:I got Canelo, in an embarrassing decision over Khan! Actually, it will be a KO in the 11th or 12th round, after Khan gets tired enough and Canelo finally catches her.
Embarrassing for who? The "her" part suggests you mean Khan, but for most, lasting 11 rounds would be a major achievement for Khan.
Khan is clearly the man of those two. He got balls to move two divisions up which would be comparable to Canelo fighting Kovalev.
He's got balls alright but that doesn't mean he's going to win. He's willing to take a beating for a career high payday since he can't get one with Pac and Floyd. That's all this is about. Getting PAID. And then going back to his proper division. He's got nothing to lose other than getting busted up for his troubles.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 07:12
by Tanzio
diddy wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
Deadendgeneration wrote:
Embarrassing for who? The "her" part suggests you mean Khan, but for most, lasting 11 rounds would be a major achievement for Khan.
Khan is clearly the man of those two. He got balls to move two divisions up which would be comparable to Canelo fighting Kovalev.
He's got balls alright but that doesn't mean he's going to win. He's willing to take a beating for a career high payday since he can't get one with Pac and Floyd. That's all this is about. Getting PAID. And then going back to his proper division. He's got nothing to lose other than getting busted up for his troubles.
True.

GingerHead has competed with better boxers who are at least as quick as Khan, who have far better chins. But the main point is that GingerHead is in a no win situation with the exception of the money while Khan is in a no lose situation with the exception of potential physical damage.

That combination of circumstances could make it interesting if GingerHead goes for the impressive KO early and fails.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 08:29
by Badhusker
Deadendgeneration wrote:
Badhusker wrote:I got Canelo, in an embarrassing decision over Khan! Actually, it will be a KO in the 11th or 12th round, after Khan gets tired enough and Canelo finally catches her.
Embarrassing for who? The "her" part suggests you mean Khan, but for most, lasting 11 rounds would be a major achievement for Khan.
Since I don't care for either guy, I think it will be embarrassing for Canelo that it takes so long to KO Khan. For Khan, getting KO'd again will re-affirm the fact that he does have a weak chin. He is basically a 3 or 4 round fighter. After that he fades and his greatest attribute, his speed, is nullified, gets timed, and he is in trouble. He can only put Canelo in headlocks to save himself, but he will eat vicious uppercuts that will cause him to do the chicken dance. I look forward to that. :TU:

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 08:44
by Deadendgeneration
Tanzio wrote:
diddy wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
Khan is clearly the man of those two. He got balls to move two divisions up which would be comparable to Canelo fighting Kovalev.
He's got balls alright but that doesn't mean he's going to win. He's willing to take a beating for a career high payday since he can't get one with Pac and Floyd. That's all this is about. Getting PAID. And then going back to his proper division. He's got nothing to lose other than getting busted up for his troubles.
True.

GingerHead has competed with better boxers who are at least as quick as Khan, who have far better chins. But the main point is that GingerHead is in a no win situation with the exception of the money while Khan is in a no lose situation with the exception of potential physical damage.

That combination of circumstances could make it interesting if GingerHead goes for the impressive KO early and fails.
Better boxers certainly, but I don't think Canelo has thought anyone as quick as Khan in terms of hand speed at least. It won't matter once Canelo times him of course.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 09:07
by KingMazzzza

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 09:30
by jamesmcdonnell
Canelo, bigger, harder hitting, but most importantly, I think he is a better boxer than Khan.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 10:27
by ikorolev
Badhusker wrote:
Deadendgeneration wrote:
Badhusker wrote:I got Canelo, in an embarrassing decision over Khan! Actually, it will be a KO in the 11th or 12th round, after Khan gets tired enough and Canelo finally catches her.
Embarrassing for who? The "her" part suggests you mean Khan, but for most, lasting 11 rounds would be a major achievement for Khan.
Since I don't care for either guy, I think it will be embarrassing for Canelo that it takes so long to KO Khan. For Khan, getting KO'd again will re-affirm the fact that he does have a weak chin. He is basically a 3 or 4 round fighter. After that he fades and his greatest attribute, his speed, is nullified, gets timed, and he is in trouble. He can only put Canelo in headlocks to save himself, but he will eat vicious uppercuts that will cause him to do the chicken dance. I look forward to that. :TU:
It should be embarrassing for Canelo to defend his lineal MW title against a WW who isn't even a top one.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 10:39
by Tanzio
ikorolev wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
Deadendgeneration wrote:
Embarrassing for who? The "her" part suggests you mean Khan, but for most, lasting 11 rounds would be a major achievement for Khan.
Since I don't care for either guy, I think it will be embarrassing for Canelo that it takes so long to KO Khan. For Khan, getting KO'd again will re-affirm the fact that he does have a weak chin. He is basically a 3 or 4 round fighter. After that he fades and his greatest attribute, his speed, is nullified, gets timed, and he is in trouble. He can only put Canelo in headlocks to save himself, but he will eat vicious uppercuts that will cause him to do the chicken dance. I look forward to that. :TU:
It should be embarrassing for Canelo to defend his lineal MW title against a WW who isn't even a top one.
x2.

One must assume that Canelo is feeling embarrassed to some degree, which may lead to him trying too hard to impress the audience with an early KO.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 10:43
by Syntax Error
This is going to be a boring fight for the most part.

Khan is going to box to orders & be ultra cautious & his insane speed will give Alvarez fits, but I see Khan slowing down & getting caught late & stopped.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 10:51
by MachoTime
Don't see it ending well for Khan. I can see Khan having some moments for 3-4 rounds and after that Canelo steps up the pressure..

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 10:53
by brilo33
saul early ko . i am not a khan hater, think he is over rated never beat a top fighter. but brave and will fight

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 10:55
by brilo33
why didnt khan go for bjs , that would be an interesting fight i think,if khan can operate at the weight

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 10:57
by man
ikorolev wrote:Give the guy a break. He is Pakistani. Pakistan won a total of 3 Olympic golds -- all in field hockey.
i guess that's your attempt at funny.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 11:07
by Tanzio
Deadendgeneration wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
diddy wrote:
He's got balls alright but that doesn't mean he's going to win. He's willing to take a beating for a career high payday since he can't get one with Pac and Floyd. That's all this is about. Getting PAID. And then going back to his proper division. He's got nothing to lose other than getting busted up for his troubles.
True.

GingerHead has competed with better boxers who are at least as quick as Khan, who have far better chins. But the main point is that GingerHead is in a no win situation with the exception of the money while Khan is in a no lose situation with the exception of potential physical damage.

That combination of circumstances could make it interesting if GingerHead goes for the impressive KO early and fails.
Better boxers certainly, but I don't think Canelo has thought anyone as quick as Khan in terms of hand speed at least. It won't matter once Canelo times him of course.
Khan is fast but Lara and FMJ were quicker, overall, including their hands.

I see this as similar to Khan v Algieri. If Algieri had GingerHead's power he would have stopped Amir. The one thing that Gingerhead does not have that Algieri has is height, which leads to another decent comparison, Khan v Alexander. Devon is a very skilled boxer and Khan (that overused term) schooled him. Alexander is physically similar to GingerHead. Both are not as tall as their listed heights, IMO. I would be surprised if they were a full 5'8" in reality. Again, the difference is power.

GingerHead has been in with Trout, FMJ, Angulo, Lara, Kirkland, and Cotto in the last three years. It is very difficult to see Khan reaching a decision in this. He will do well to go four in my estimation.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 11:10
by Tanzio
brilo33 wrote:why didnt khan go for bjs , that would be an interesting fight i think,if khan can operate at the weight
$$$$

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 11:15
by brilo33
Tanzio wrote:
brilo33 wrote:why didnt khan go for bjs , that would be an interesting fight i think,if khan can operate at the weight
$$$$
of course. i cant blame him for wanting to make as much money in one of if not toughest sport, but as a fan turns me of him

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 13:32
by man
around 60:40 in favour of canelo. i'm actually
surprised so many others think khan has a
chance.

Re: canelo - khan who do you have?

Posted: 26 Mar 2016, 13:36
by diddy
brilo33 wrote:why didnt khan go for bjs , that would be an interesting fight i think,if khan can operate at the weight
Why do you think? Because BJS doesn't bring a 1-4 of the money that Canelo does.