Chris Eubank v Teddy Atlas - a class apart

[tobyh5]

I can live with people misreading this, as lets be honest there are stupid people out there who have no sense of being able to properly read situations or understand context and meaning of conversations, BUT, is Eubank saying this himself? If he saying that he told junior to not hit him in the head due to concerns for Blackwell? If he is, that is effing disgusting and I cannot believe he would be so dishonest.

[Syntax Error]

Where has all the hyperbole about Chris Eubanks Sr's words come from?

When I heard that, I just thought he was telling his son not to head hunt so much because Blackwell is a tough man that isn't likely to be stopped like that.

It's simple advice; if you can't budge your opponent with head shots, go to the body.

Now, all of a sudden, it's turned into Chris Eubank trying to save Nick Blackwell?

[tobyh5]

Where has all the hyperbole about Chris Eubanks Sr's words come from?

When I heard that, I just thought he was telling his son not to head hunt so much because Blackwell is a tough man that isn't likely to be stopped like that.

It's simple advice; if you can't budge your opponent with head shots, go to the body.

Now, all of a sudden, it's turned into Chris Eubank trying to save Nick Blackwell?

It is crazy. Check out this article and headline

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... fight.html

True, it is the Daily Mail, the biggest piece of shite to be printed in this country, but it is in other papers too

[tobyh5]

Sweet jesus, even the Telegraph is getting in on it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2016/ ... is-eubank/

They say, "Chris Eubank Snr was imploring his son from the corner to hit Blackwell to the body and not the head or face."

Nope, he did not once say to not hit him in the face, that never happened, that is a twist of his words to suit the story.

[palooka]

Sweet jesus, even the Telegraph is getting in on it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2016/ ... is-eubank/

They say, "Chris Eubank Snr was imploring his son from the corner to hit Blackwell to the body and not the head or face."

Nope, he did not once say to not hit him in the face, that never happened, that is a twist of his words to suit the story.

Reading the article there they seem to quote Eubank's comments in the bout in full. Eubank declined to comment, no doubt he is wise as to how anything he says can be 'twisted' to suit the papers slant.

[tobyh5]

Sweet jesus, even the Telegraph is getting in on it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/2016/ ... is-eubank/

They say, "Chris Eubank Snr was imploring his son from the corner to hit Blackwell to the body and not the head or face."

Nope, he did not once say to not hit him in the face, that never happened, that is a twist of his words to suit the story.

Reading the article there they seem to quote Eubank's comments in the bout in full. Eubank declined to comment, no doubt he is wise as to how anything he says can be 'twisted' to suit the papers slant.

yes they do quote in full but then use clever reporting to then add a slant to it by saying he was imploring his son to not hit the head. People take the whole article and go with what the reporter is saying his intention was, rather than just reading his actual wording and thinking about it. As proven by the dickheads on social media believing the headline rather than looking just at the direct quote

[palooka]

'Boxer gets hurt' isn't enough of a news story for the main stream press, I bet it was hard for Snr not to open his gob, it seems to be what he lives for.

[veriton]

Hard to see how it's even debatable as Eubank words are as clear as day. He tells his boy he will hurt Blackwell if the fight carries on the same way without ref stopping it then tells him to stop it with body attack. Most trainers would have just said to pile on pressure to try and force ref to act. Blackwell hadn't shown any weakness to body at that point so it was hardly the most pragmatic approach. Not many get stopped to the body at that level esp super fit kids like Blackwell.

[crusader]

I think you're wrong and I don't believe that Eubank deserves any praise for being compassionate.

[tobyh5]

Thank god for one person saying it how it is

http://talksport.com/boxing/johnny-nels ... boxer-nick

Of course the real primary concern is for Nick Blackwell but I am truly disliking people who should know better making up a false story and people, even on this forum, going along with it when it is crystal clear that it was a tactical discussion, not one borne out of concern.

At no point did Snr tell him to stop hitting the head, that did not happen. If he was truly doing as people are suggesting, he would have damn well said a lot more and actually told his son to not hit the head.

[samwbr]

Snr has spoken to Elliot Worsell about this hasn't he?

[tobyh5]

Snr has spoken to Elliot Worsell about this hasn't he?

Oh so it is a fact now because Snr says so right?

Well then, I say, that if Snr really thought Nick Blackwell's health was in danger, he should have taken the decision to stop the fight or refuse to let his son fight on. If he thought the kid was in that much danger, he should have been shouting for his boy to stop hitting him in the head during the next round because he continued to do so. So in reverse, if he really suspected the boy was that badly hurt, his acts show a LACK of compassion and that he valued the "W" and British title more than another man's health.

[samwbr]

Snr has spoken to Elliot Worsell about this hasn't he?

Oh so it is a fact now because Snr says so right?

Well then, I say, that if Snr really thought Nick Blackwell's health was in danger, he should have taken the decision to stop the fight or refuse to let his son fight on. If he thought the kid was in that much danger, he should have been shouting for his boy to stop hitting him in the head during the next round because he continued to do so. So in reverse, if he really suspected the boy was that badly hurt, his acts show a LACK of compassion and that he valued the "W" and British title more than another man's health.

We don't know do we. I don't think he is a flat out self serving liar though.

[tobyh5]

We don't know do we. I don't think he is a flat out self serving liar though.

If he is saying that it was compassion and he was trying to stop his lad hurting him and telling him to stop hitting the head, then yes, he is a liar.

Come on man, for fecks sake, his words in the corner are not consistent with compassion but are consistent with tactics.

[tobyh5]

Just watched the next round, one that Junior did take off a little but the heaving in his chest and the mouth opens indicates he was getting a breather but still, he was targeting the head. Snappy jabs, hard uppercuts and a few real hard shots. And Snr was so compassionate he did not once implore his son to stop. Hmmm.

Ok moving on, the next break, after the next round, he said: "I want you to take this guy out, don't go to a decision". Hmmm, full of compassion there right?!

[veriton]

Luckily you are in a minority with your miserable worldview. Just imagine the press around this fight if Eubank hadn't said it and be thankful.

[mickey1975]

Eubank didn't think he was going to stop him with head shots so told him to target the body. If he's getting credit because people misinterpreted his instructions, I think he's exactly the kind of guy who'll run with it. Lap it up even.

[Supremo]

No way Eubank was concerned for Blackwell he was concerned about his son winning the fight. The media have deliberately interpreted it the way the first few posters have as it gives an edge to the story that even the opposition corner could see what a ref couldn't. It suits them to have a villian and hero in every story. Utter crap.