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Impractical Poster wrote:Not sure. Haven't been visiting the CS section much these days. It seems to have been riddled with absurdity lately...

Impractical Poster wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:Two Trolls following me and acting like I have to answer to them, I don't even see what that Turd Troll Impossible Asshole writes because he's blocked but apparently from reading the SuperTroll PunchEDout post there was a question.

Guess what idiots, I don't care, take your question and stick it up your @$$.

Punchdrunk is still butthurt over a comment made a loooooong time ago concerning how great Wlad wasn't.

This was, of course, before we saw him get owned by Fury- a guy who wore a Batman costume to one of the pre-fight pressers and who no one is mistaking as great yet.

Anyone who has seen me post about Mayweather v Cotto already knows my take on the catchweight. It is a good one, IMO, and one I'd gladly repeat if I ever see some of lil g's knobslobbers explain his hypocrisy just once.

Which means I will never have to repeat it.

Please, repeat it.

If it's a reasonable enough explanation to give Floyd a pass, but not G, I'll gladly accept it.

Boxing Prospect wrote:Funny how Golovkin haters talk about him more than his fans

koolkc107 wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:Funny how Golovkin haters talk about him more than his fans

Don't hate him.

But he is a hypocrite and he is blocking a fight we all want to see from being made.

Hence, my animosity.

koolkc107 wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:
Punchdrunk is still butthurt over a comment made a loooooong time ago concerning how great Wlad wasn't.

This was, of course, before we saw him get owned by Fury- a guy who wore a Batman costume to one of the pre-fight pressers and who no one is mistaking as great yet.

Anyone who has seen me post about Mayweather v Cotto already knows my take on the catchweight. It is a good one, IMO, and one I'd gladly repeat if I ever see some of lil g's knobslobbers explain his hypocrisy just once.

Which means I will never have to repeat it.

Please, repeat it.

If it's a reasonable enough explanation to give Floyd a pass, but not G, I'll gladly accept it.

Who needs you to accept anything?

I will give you a hint tho.

The fact that you equate two dissimilar situations speaks volumes about your fanboydom.

Yes, they were both catchweights. But that is about the only similarity.

koolkc107 wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:
Punchdrunk is still butthurt over a comment made a loooooong time ago concerning how great Wlad wasn't.

This was, of course, before we saw him get owned by Fury- a guy who wore a Batman costume to one of the pre-fight pressers and who no one is mistaking as great yet.

Anyone who has seen me post about Mayweather v Cotto already knows my take on the catchweight. It is a good one, IMO, and one I'd gladly repeat if I ever see some of lil g's knobslobbers explain his hypocrisy just once.

Which means I will never have to repeat it.

Please, repeat it.

If it's a reasonable enough explanation to give Floyd a pass, but not G, I'll gladly accept it.

Who needs you to accept anything?

I will give you a hint tho.

The fact that you equate two dissimilar situations speaks volumes about your fanboydom.

Yes, they were both catchweights. But that is about the only similarity.

Larrylefthook wrote: You are wrong, FMJ agreed to 154 for Cotto but after he wouldn't fight Canelo at 154 only 152. Same situation as GGG choosing different weights for different opponents. Both Cotto and Canelo wanted to fight at 154 but FMJ dragged down Canelo.

koolkc107 wrote:And he is running away from any chance at true greatness.

SFW wrote:I don't think you guys realize how big this is, what just happened. Now exclusively here on boxrec.com, for only the 2ND TIME IN HISTORY, a man has come back from the dead. Brut Has Risen.

man wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:And he is running away from any chance at true greatness.

common, even you yourself don't believe that.

koolkc107 wrote:

man wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:And he is running away from any chance at true greatness.

common, even you yourself don't believe that.

Actually, I do.

I think he can be a great we talk about like the Ray Leonards, Hearns, and Durans.

But none of what I think is going to amount to a hill of beans if he keeps taking the easy road.

The greats challenge themselves, some multiple times.

What fight on lil g's resume qualifies as a legendary challenge? What's his signature win, the one that gets him to Canastota right now if he never boxes another round?

By contrast, if Canelo died in a plane crash tonight, he has the fights with Mayweather and Cotto. He has the Lara fight. He has a signature KO against Kirkland that is STILL generating memes on the net.

We are talking about greatness, and lil g is selling himself way short.

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

man wrote: common, even you yourself don't believe that.

By contrast, if Canelo died in a plane crash tonight, he has the fights with Mayweather and Cotto. He has the Lara fight. He has a signature KO against Kirkland that is STILL generating memes on the net.

We are talking about greatness, and lil g is selling himself way short.

Willie Monroe, is his signature win!! LOL

ikorolev wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

koolkc107 wrote: By contrast, if Canelo died in a plane crash tonight, he has the fights with Mayweather and Cotto. He has the Lara fight. He has a signature KO against Kirkland that is STILL generating memes on the net.

We are talking about greatness, and lil g is selling himself way short.

Willie Monroe, is his signature win!! LOL

So, a wide loss to Mayweather is somehow an achievement ? Or beating Cotto who was 12-15 pounds smaller in the ring is a signature win.

Did he really stop Kirkland who was also stopped by Ishida stopped by Golovkin ?

ikorolev wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

koolkc107 wrote: By contrast, if Canelo died in a plane crash tonight, he has the fights with Mayweather and Cotto. He has the Lara fight. He has a signature KO against Kirkland that is STILL generating memes on the net.

We are talking about greatness, and lil g is selling himself way short.

Willie Monroe, is his signature win!! LOL

So, a wide loss to Mayweather is somehow an achievement ? Or beating Cotto who was 12-15 pounds smaller in the ring is a signature win.

Did he really stop Kirkland who was also stopped by Ishida stopped by Golovkin ?

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

ikorolev wrote: So, a wide loss to Mayweather is somehow an achievement ? Or beating Cotto who was 12-15 pounds smaller in the ring is a signature win.

Did he really stop Kirkland who was also stopped by Ishida stopped by Golovkin ?

Yeah but just remind us of who GGG beat that has a bigger or better name than Cotto or anyone he's faced anywhere near the level of Mayweather (someone everybody lost to).

ikorolev wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:

ikorolev wrote: So, a wide loss to Mayweather is somehow an achievement ? Or beating Cotto who was 12-15 pounds smaller in the ring is a signature win.

Did he really stop Kirkland who was also stopped by Ishida stopped by Golovkin ?

Yeah but just remind us of who GGG beat that has a bigger or better name than Cotto or anyone he's faced anywhere near the level of Mayweather (someone everybody lost to).

There are weight classes for a reason. If GGG smashed Cotto, it wouldn't be an achievement. Neither is Canelo's close win.

If you can't understand that a wide loss to a fighter of ANY level is not an achievement, then your case is hopeless.

koolkc107 wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

Undefeated49-0 wrote:
Yeah but just remind us of who GGG beat that has a bigger or better name than Cotto or anyone he's faced anywhere near the level of Mayweather (someone everybody lost to).

There are weight classes for a reason. If GGG smashed Cotto, it wouldn't be an achievement. Neither is Canelo's close win.

If you can't understand that a wide loss to a fighter of ANY level is not an achievement, then your case is hopeless.

If Cotto isn't an achievement, why would a lil g victory over Canelo (a guy who also has never fought as a true middleweight) be one?

koolkc107 wrote:Someone please reconcile these hypocritical statements and actions with greatness.

See, this isn't about mandatories or belts- it is about greatness.

Lil g fanboys say Gennady is great now, but truth is we don't know because he wont challenge himself.

You can go down to 154 for a fight with Floyd Mayweather, a welterweight...but
you can't go down one pound less for the guy Mayweather beat easily.

You can go down for the money to be gained from Floyd, but you cant go down a
pound less for the second biggest payday that is currently available.

Which makes even less sense when you add in the fact lil g was cool with going UP
to 168 to fight Froch or Julio Chavez jr., which are actually not as lucrative as a Canelo fight.

Yes, 168 is fine for Jr or Carl but mention Ward and it has to be at 164.

To recap.

1) He can drain himself for one guy, but cant be easier on himself weightwise
for the guy defeated by the guy he would drain himself for.

2) He is willing to go up and down in weight (since it is safe to assume a Froch fight at
168 would mean he'd go back down to 160) for less lucrative fights than just going down for Canelo.
He is willing to be harder on his body for less money.

3) It is OK for lil g as an A-side to ask other fighters to drain themselves but not OK for an
clear A-side to ask lil g to do the same...even though he is on record as saying he would do just that.

So here it is, lil g knobslobbers.

Explain how this is the behavior of a "great" fighter.

Explain this without hiding behind "mandatory", since we know great fighters do whatever
they can to make a great fight, many times without regard for what is "mandatory".

Explain this without mentioning belts, since great fights don't need them AND most of the big fights
lil g has been angling for the past 2 years have had nothing to do with a belt of any kind.

koolkc107 wrote:

man wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:And he is running away from any chance at true greatness.

common, even you yourself don't believe that.

Actually, I do.

I think he can be a great we talk about like the Ray Leonards, Hearns, and Durans.

But none of what I think is going to amount to a hill of beans if he keeps taking the easy road.

The greats challenge themselves, some multiple times.

What fight on lil g's resume qualifies as a legendary challenge? What's his signature win, the one that gets him to Canastota right now if he never boxes another round?

By contrast, if Canelo died in a plane crash tonight, he has the fights with Mayweather and Cotto. He has the Lara fight. He has a signature KO against Kirkland that is STILL generating memes on the net.

We are talking about greatness, and lil g is selling himself way short.