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Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 03:15
by freddydoesdallas
asdfjkl wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Because of the Hippocratic Oath.
That's not a legal oath.

Whether or not you agree with what he has done, he hasn't done anything illegal.

The athletes and clubs involved are the ones that should do be under scrutiny. They know what they are allowed to do within the rules of sport and they knowingly broke them
Then you probably don't know what the Hippocratic Oath stands for.
Quite clearly you do not. There is no legal obligation to the oath whatsoever and the oath is not 'do not harm'.

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 03:20
by Supremo
asdfjkl wrote:
bripez wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: Then you probably don't know what the Hippocratic Oath stands for.
Then why not enlighten us ?
If you create a killermachine, knowing beforehand he will, or will try to knock somebody out of this world, it's clearly not healthy. Many steroids are bad for your body no matter what way you look at it.
If you micro dose and keep the levels of testosterone/GH within levels that don't arouse suspicion then I don't imagine that it will be doing too much damage?

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 05:39
by asdfjkl
Supremo wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
bripez wrote:
Then why not enlighten us ?
If you create a killermachine, knowing beforehand he will, or will try to knock somebody out of this world, it's clearly not healthy. Many steroids are bad for your body no matter what way you look at it.
If you micro dose and keep the levels of testosterone/GH within levels that don't arouse suspicion then I don't imagine that it will be doing too much damage?
It's not about the suspicion, it's about health, it probably won't make you healthy in the long term does it?

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 08:36
by Supremo
asdfjkl wrote:
Supremo wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: If you create a killermachine, knowing beforehand he will, or will try to knock somebody out of this world, it's clearly not healthy. Many steroids are bad for your body no matter what way you look at it.
If you micro dose and keep the levels of testosterone/GH within levels that don't arouse suspicion then I don't imagine that it will be doing too much damage?
It's not about the suspicion, it's about health, it probably won't make you healthy in the long term does it?

I don't know, I am not an expert. However, I imagine if they are within what could be considered "normal" levels an it is closely monitored then the effects may not be harmful but bring great benefit that wouldn't be possible naturally.

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 08:50
by bripez
asdfjkl wrote:
Supremo wrote:
asdfjkl wrote: If you create a killermachine, knowing beforehand he will, or will try to knock somebody out of this world, it's clearly not healthy. Many steroids are bad for your body no matter what way you look at it.
If you micro dose and keep the levels of testosterone/GH within levels that don't arouse suspicion then I don't imagine that it will be doing too much damage?
It's not about the suspicion, it's about health, it probably won't make you healthy in the long term does it?
I think that you are getting confused mate, this medication wasn't developed (at least initially) to help athletes to run faster or jump higher etc.

They were developed to treat a medical condition and along the way some other medical expert saw another use for them.

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 08:54
by palooka
I'm in my mid 40's and recently bought some tablets that lift testosterone, apparently the testes do not produce as much after your 30's. I'm pretty far off a killing machine (yet) and haven't felt any difference.

Re: boxer in doping scandal..............

Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 13:31
by asdfjkl
bripez wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:
Supremo wrote:
If you micro dose and keep the levels of testosterone/GH within levels that don't arouse suspicion then I don't imagine that it will be doing too much damage?
It's not about the suspicion, it's about health, it probably won't make you healthy in the long term does it?
I think that you are getting confused mate, this medication wasn't developed (at least initially) to help athletes to run faster or jump higher etc.

They were developed to treat a medical condition and along the way some other medical expert saw another use for them.
Yea, but most of the professional boxers don't suffer from those diseases, so basically they have a healthy men and they still give him medicines.